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Current Talk '02 II / Re: The Stink of Lilacs
« on: September 27, 2002, 06:03:12 PM »
Connie,

I wish you'd do a capture some time of the moment when Quentin is leaning back against a wall (I think it is the episode when Trask has locked him in the basement cell in the OH) and he puts his hands in his pockets with his legs clasped together and moves his hands upwards.

The sight you get at that moment of Quentin's manhood really is wonderfully inspiring, and something I often contemplate when I'm in need of a little boost.  Far too little beauty in this world as it is ...

good luck with your site, should you choose to pursue it.

Gothick

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: A Theory on this Return to 1796
« on: September 27, 2002, 05:56:00 PM »
Couple of thoughts about this week's episodes ...

So far as I know, they were the first episodes Dan Curtis actually directed on the show, so he was probably leaning even more heavily on the writers to have the plot go a certain way.

I also think they were giving viewers who had joined  the show during 1968 (the series got a tremendous ratings boost through that year) to get a glimpse of where Barnabas came from with this glimpse of 1796.  I know that back in the day it was an exciting week of shows for me because I had not been watching during the original 1795 storyline.

Warren Oddson's theories about the DS storylines are kind of like Platonic astronomers who kept adding more epicycles to their models of the Kosmos as they sought to give an orderly aetiology for an ever growing list of observed anomalies.  One has to admire the ingenuity with which he attempts to make sense of entire plot developments that underline the plain fact that DS is an out and out fantasy that has no relationship to the real world.

Gothick

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: The Wyndcliff "Shuttle"
« on: September 23, 2002, 11:21:47 PM »
If today was the day when Joe had his dream date with Tom (lol), then, yes, today was the final appearance of Joe Haskell on the series.

However, Joel Crothers has a few more appearances coming up as Lieutenant Nathan Forbes, everybody's favorite scoundrel.

Gothick

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: PERSISTENT PETOFI
« on: September 23, 2002, 09:00:40 PM »
I think it would have been just grand to have brought Count Petofi back.  He was so fascinating because of all his eccentricities, plus the fact that his own powers were constantly misfiring in unexpected ways.

Besides Thayer David's amazing strength in the role, the redoubtable Count's return might have lured Violet Welles back to the show.  (She did return for the last few weeks of PT 1841, when her scripts were credited to Gordon Russell.)

I don't see why they couldn't have had a couple of scenes of Petofi and Stokes onscreen together.  They managed this sort of thing fairly smoothly (by the standards of the time) for the 1970 PT storyline.

Gothick

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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 II / Re: WELCOME JOE/NATHAN!
« on: September 23, 2002, 08:52:15 PM »
Dear Joe/Nathan, glad to hear you are an admirer of our favorite show.  I hope you have enjoyed the post 1795 episodes; some fans feel that the series never improved upon that storyline (my personal favorite storyline is Leviathans, which is a real dark horse; a lot of fans think the show really "jumped the shark" during that period).

Interestingly, Joel Crothers is mentioned a couple of times in Felice Picano's late 1970s diaries published in the compilation The Violet Quill Society (I think that's the title).  There's also a very interesting interview with him that was done in 1969 shortly after he left the series.  From reading that, it would seem that his reasons for leaving involved broader areas of discontent beyond the usually stated ones of his DS roles not giving him sufficient range (I used to wonder about that, given what the writers did to Joe during the character's final months on the series!).

Best wishes,  Gothick

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: Bravo For Julia!
« on: September 20, 2002, 06:21:19 PM »
The letters of Dr. Julia Hoffman's name rearrange on Prof Stokes' famous letter board to spell TOUGH AS NAILS.

If she ever needed to prove that, she did so in yesterday's classic episode.

And I love that Cassandra had one final appearance as a glamorous, completely unrepentant bitch on wheels!

Gothick

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: Original Intent?
« on: September 19, 2002, 08:20:41 PM »
I've been watching some of the current shows on video, and found it mordantly amusing when Barnabas was actually scripted the line:  "The past is forgotten.  Only the present matters."  That must have been the heraldic proclamation for DS writers.

According to Sam Hall in the interview he gave to Mr. Gross, Dan Curtis had a habit of dictating sudden changes in the storylines.  It's my view that DC is to blame for a lot of the stuff that doesn't add up over time in the development of the more complicated, extended storylines.  If you think the inconsistencies in the prelude to the 1897 storyline are bad, don't even try to curl your brain around how they set up 1840.  Almost nothing matches what the characters learned in the setup storyline.

It does seem weird to have the cradle walled up in Quentin's room, though, since it was NEVER there during 1897.

Steve

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: SPOILER--Joe get the BIG ONE
« on: September 19, 2002, 05:55:27 PM »
Thanks for sharing this, darling.  I LOVE this episode, and this scene in particular.  Julia's expression as she contemplates that hypo is priceless. And then there's THE SNIFF.

xo  Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 II / Re: Happy Birthday Grayson Hall
« on: September 18, 2002, 11:19:22 PM »
Thanks for creating this topic, Cassandra!  

Lots of loving wishes for darling Grayson's special day.

Steve

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: Collinwood Illuminated!
« on: September 18, 2002, 09:54:02 PM »
Gorgeous photo, Bob!  Many thanks for sharing it.

Steve

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: Good Riddance!
« on: September 18, 2002, 09:47:50 PM »
I ADORE Cavada Humphrey.  The whole Mme Findlay thing could have been ridiculous, but I thought Cavada made it compelling viewing.

My one eternal regret is that there was no scene between Miss Humphrey and Grayson Hall.  THAT I would crawl over broken glass in the dark to see.

As for the script, Mme Findlay frightened far too easily.  Her descent into gibbering terror went at a speed presumably dictated by the shooting schedule.

Speaking of dictation (ahem!), I have my own theories about just what Mme Findlay saw when Quentin materialized in that squeaky old chair, that set her to screaming so ... Let's just say that it was something that would have made ME scream in an entirely different way.

Gothick

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: Biggest Pet Peeves
« on: September 13, 2002, 12:34:31 AM »
It's not really a peeve, I actually love it whenever the women are shown in bed at 3 a.m. wearing full street makeup PLUS high heels!  I remember one bedtime episode in 1967 when Liz and Carolyn between them seemed to have lacquered their respective dos solid with hairspray before retiring.  I imagine Liz sitting up in bed, spritzing away, in a huge and growing cloud like the fumes of joss sticks around a Chinese Buddha.

Yes, I know I have a vivid imagination.  My Mom has been complaining about it ever since I was a wee one.

Gothick

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: How's this for a "running tally"
« on: September 13, 2002, 12:31:21 AM »
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Roger Davis will be back before the end of the current storyline, mauling his own hair and every female co player in sight once again.  As I recall, whoever opens the great doors of Collinwood to behold the sight of Roger manically glaring away into camera 3 utters a piercing SHRIEK--and who can blame them?

On a somewhat happier note, Cassandra Collins, chic and venomous as ever, is going to be reappearing again shortly, too.

Gothick

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: TO RAINEYPARK
« on: September 12, 2002, 12:30:08 AM »
Dear Anne,

I believe you are confusing the pentagram/pentacle (a 5 pointed star--yes, just like the ones on the US flag, I have an interesting article about the symbolism of the flag and its relationship to the ancient worship of the Great Goddess) with the "Star of David" which has 6 points and is made by placing a triangle with 2 points down (representing outer activity) and one with 2 points up (representing inner reflection) overtop one another.

Technically a Pentagram is a plain 5 pointed star.  When enclosed in a circle, it is called a Pentacle.  There are many symbolic explications of the 5 points--one is humanity plus the 4 Great elements of Earth, Air, Fire and Water, surrounded by a Circle, representing the Unity of all creation.

The 5 pointed star is mentioned in writings of certain ancient Greek philosophers, and has been used in meditation exercises across many traditions.  The image appears repeatedly in Nature.  Look at a morning glory tomorrow, or cut open an apple to see it.

The association between the 5 pointed star and "Satanism" in the mass media is unfortunate, and hardly accurate as a portrayal of a powerful symbolic archetype that has been used across millennia around the world.

Gothick

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Current Talk '02 II / Re: PROS AND CONS OF 1897
« on: September 11, 2002, 10:53:40 PM »
1897 isn't my favorite storyline, but contains many of my favorite characters and moments.  Magda, Count Petofi, Judith, Trask, Evan, Pans/ity, and of course QUENTIN especially early on when he's being a capricious, self-absorbed, utter rogue--and a damned sexy one at that.  

Seeing Tim Shaw when he comes back all gussied up is a special treat for us Don Briscoe fans.  Diana Millay has a superbly chilly turn as a new Laura with a strange link to the occult of Egypt,  Even the dreadful Roger Davis manages some fun moments as a psycho vamp on a mission.

And I thought KLS as Kitty was the best work by far she did on the show.  The only thing that compares is her very early weeks as Maggie in 1966.

Doubt she'll see it, but note to Miss Winthrop:  Angelique wanted to marry Quentin because her Dark Master had promised her that if she could win the love of a mortal man, she would be released from the world of darkness (or something like that).  She explains it in one scene with Barnabas towards the end of the storyline.  It's an interesting time because she is with Barnabas but her emotional focus lies elsewhere.

I also love it when Julia goes back.  They just waited way too long for that to happen!  DC should have shelled out for at least ONE split-screen scene between Julia and Magda!  I can just imagine the salty banter the two women would exchange.

Gothick

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