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Calendar Events / Announcements '09 II / Re: A DS alum on Thanksgiving
« on: November 28, 2009, 03:00:03 AM »
Utterly fabulous!  I adore Barbara Steele.  I would be content simply to take her out to dinner and let her discourse upon any topic of her choosing.

Luckily, her conversation has been captured in a couple of the DVDs of her old films released in the past year--especially the commentary track on She Beast, and the video portrait of Barbara included as an extra on Nightmare Castle. 

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: TV show 'Bones' last week
« on: November 24, 2009, 10:06:17 PM »
Wow, Ralph Waite is still acting?  That's a name out of the past.

I would guess it was an intentional reference--EVeryone out in H'wood seems to watch DS these days...

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Elvira reads HoDS beads
« on: November 24, 2009, 09:24:23 PM »
Fans,

While running my usual every-so-often search for Grayson Hall items on YouTube, this clip popped up from Elvira's airing of hoDS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_ilhP1L7A&feature=related

(this is part one of two)

Warning:  not only are there some really excruciating jokes ("being grounded is no big deal if you've already been buried!"), but only intermittent clips of the movie are shown.  I'm guessing that whoever put the footage up on YouTube did this themselves, because the main intent was to showcase Elvira's unique ... um, humor?

holiday cheer to all,

G.

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Very cool.  Too bad there was no actual footage posted with darling Joel!

G.

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What a fabulous t-shirt!  Evan's definitely Hip to THEE Warlock!

Happy Birthday!

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0890
« on: November 24, 2009, 05:11:15 PM »
In retrospect, I can see how upsetting this episode must have been to the old guard of DS fans back in the day.  The way Frid plays LeviaBarn is so subtle, cold, calculating, and insidious--a very different kind of villain from the 1967 Barnabas (who was sort of a debonair Mr. Hyde, or at least that's one way I would describe him).  Frid's physicality and body language are so different from his previous work.  Really excellent work from him in this show.  Just how unnerving the fans found it can be viewed as kind of a tribute to how deftly he conveyed the character's new ruthlessness and froideur.

From a theatrical point of view, the Barnabas/Julia dynamic seems more lively when they're at odds rather than when they're in sync.  Both actors had wonderful chemistry in their scenes together.  I find the scene where Barnabas tries to throw Julia out of the house and berates her for her "curious belief that you have the right to know everything about me" one of the most disturbing moments in the entire series.  It's like one of those moments when a pit seems to open beneath one's feet and you wonder whether you really know a person who has been in your life for years when they suddenly behave in a turn-on-a-dime about-face from established patterns.

G.

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Just a reminder that it's always worth checking Amazon's "New and Used" vendor section for these because they often sell the DVD sets at a price that's considerably lower than Amazon's own listed price.  A year or two ago, I picked up several sets in the $20 to $30 range over a period of months.

Happy Shopping!  as we lurch towards Black Friday...

G.

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Current Talk '19 I / Re: A New Slideshow Is Coming
« on: November 21, 2009, 05:15:17 AM »
Just happened to log on here while waiting for a bus and was rewarded by an exceptionally handsome snap of Don Briscoe.  You really capture his beauty here.  Thanks for this.

Best,

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0888
« on: November 20, 2009, 04:50:20 PM »
My favorite moments in this one are:

(1) Julia waking up after spending the night in a chair at the Old House.  (And why the hell was she in a chair?  Are we supposed to believe that after all this time, they had only renovated the one bedroom--Josette's?  It's frustrating, to me, that after Barnabas returned to mortal state again, we never got to see  his bedroom.  I would have loved to have seen what they would have done with that.) You really need to go back and watch how Grayson plays this little moment.  It's priceless--the craning of the neck, swanlike stretching of facial muscles, and arabesque of the lips is really beyond describing.  I LOVE GRAYSON HALL!!!!

(2)  Julia and Carolyn at the Antique Shoppe.  "Are you ready, Carolyn?"  "Yes--for anything!" 

(3)  Carolyn's encounter at the Altar of the Great Old Ones with the Mysterious Stranger.  I love how deftly Dennis Patrick defines this new character, and of course, Barrett is spot-on as always.

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0886
« on: November 20, 2009, 04:43:31 PM »
MB, that capture from that Frid/Hall scene is the stuff of Grand Opera!  Excellent work!

Nancy, if I'm not mistaken, the source of the story about "they cast the wrong guy" came from the original edition of KLS's Scrapbook Memories.    And we know how reliable (not) KLS's memory of things tends to be.  I wonder whether there are any references to this story in any of the DS interviews from the original broadcast period or immediately thereafter?

Some of the most frank and revealing comments about the inner workings of the series were in interviews with Joel Crothers and Nancy Barrett after the show had ended, if I recall correctly.

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0886
« on: November 19, 2009, 06:55:38 PM »
Midnite darling, thanks so much for doing the detective work of going back to those video interviews.  I don't think I"ve even played them yet.

That's pretty outrageous about Frid, since it is documented from multiple sources that not only was DC in England at the time of the casting and set-up for Barnabas, but when he came back, he actually thought they had "cast the wrong guy" since he had supposedly sent a different head shot back for the guy he wanted. (I've always wondered whether they did a reading with that guy and found out he just did not have the goods, at all.)

I've been watching Mad Men, season one, over the past couple of weeks, and a lot of DC's behavior seems rooted in the "executive culture" of the Sixties.  But he obviously was quite the maverick and had his own very strong personality... I am definitely of the school of thought that DS turned out to be an underground classic *despite* DC's input!

Thanks again!

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0887
« on: November 19, 2009, 05:04:10 PM »
I think this may be one of my all time favorite episodes of DS.  The cryptic exchanges at the beginning between the transfigured Barnabas and the two weird Leviathan Priests--the evocative gnomic utterances of the dialogue, and the intimations of powers that pre-dated the Earth's own Primal Age--were elements we had never seen before on DS.  While some felt the show had gone right round the twist, as a viewer in 1969 I was very excited by the unveiling of these new elements.  I'm presuming that I must have already been reading some Lovecraft because I recall not finding the concepts as baffling as they must have been to those who had never read the Eldritch Squire of Providence.  It was a surprise to me a month or two later to learn that many fans bitterly disliked the new storyline.

Grayson and Nancy are two of my all time favorites on the series and the chance to see them sharing so many scenes together is a rarety.  I love how they play these dialogue-heavy scenes--so naturalistically, and with Julia treating Carolyn as a confidante, which is a change from how the two interacted when last we saw them together.  Although, come to think of it, Julia was seen offering Carolyn a lot of emotional support during that dreadful period when Carolyn thought her Mother was dead--this may have been when their friendship really began.

I also love the scene where Grayson is reacting to the overheard conversation between Magda and Pansity.  Just fabulous stuff.  And then there's the way Julia says the word "DIVINE."  Gotta love it!

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0886
« on: November 18, 2009, 10:57:51 PM »
Ah, and so it begins--Love of LeviaLife!

From the point of metanarrative, this episode is very cool (or maybe it was the one before?) because we finally get a Jonathan-on-Grayson fanging sequence.  Love how the actors played it, even though I'm sure Frid, at least, was squirming (given his oft-stated objection to the fanging scenes on principle--and the outrageousness of this particular setpiece in specific).

I would LOVE to know where and when DC claimed to have "hated Leviathans from the beginning just as much as the fans did."  Even for him, that's EXTREME revisionism of established DS history.  About on the level of Mao having Liu Shao-ch'i erased after his fall from various group photographs recording certain Party functions.  But then, there never seemed any limits to DC's personal megalomania, particularly in the sphere of DS.

I love the design elements in our introduction to Haza, Oberon, and the Leviathan altar.  (or the "cairn," as Julia always, rather oddly to my mind, called it.)  Thinking of them now, I wonder whether Haza and Oberon were the actual ancestors of Uncle Fester Addams.  I'd know that pasty skin, those sunken eyes, that crazed leer, and those long snake-like robes anywhere.

The aesthetic atmosphere here always makes me think of the drawings of Edward Gorey.  Particularly in this scene with Barn in that gorgeous 1790s cape.

Angelique has a line in a later episode in which she describes the Leviathans as "creatures of the Underworld."  That element is certainly present in how Haza and Oberon are depicted here.  Their makeup may also hint at an episode in Lovecraft's tale, The Whisperer in Darkness.  I think the main story that DC read to help fill in the elements of the Leviathan narrative must have been the Dunwich Horror.

vile serpentine hissing,

G.

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Current Talk '19 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: November 17, 2009, 11:20:20 PM »
Many thanks, and I apologize if I was nagging.

Hope your day improves (my own has been less than stellar, alas).

Best,

G.

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Current Talk '19 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: November 17, 2009, 07:13:14 PM »
No NoDS photo/caption today, 11/17?  I see only an empty little white box with a red x...

G.

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