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Thanks for that link. It's so fascinating how many people who were involved in the show claimed to have "created" Barnabas. I really think the character's creation was a group effort... I personally feel that if a more confident, technically skilled actor than Jonathan Frid had been cast, the character wouldn't have been nearly as compelling as he became. Because Jonathan fed into his performance his own fear and anxiety in struggling to master such long scripts with such a punishingly short timeline. That gave Barnabas an edge very different from the suavity of Lugosi, the feral brutishness of Christopher Lee, the cadaverously predatory zeal of Carradine, to name three famous actors associated with vampires prior to Frid. Barnabas was a genuine new page in the annals of the Undead.

Which is partly why I can't imagine anyone seriously trying to mount a reboot of DS without Barnabas. But we'll see...

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Glimpse of the New DS Fandom
« on: October 31, 2019, 11:12:40 PM »
I hear of more people now choosing to watch the show via "Prime."

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Glimpse of the New DS Fandom
« on: October 31, 2019, 10:13:42 PM »
This is interesting to read as a glimpse of the new DS fandom, the youngsters who are discovering the show on a certain popular retail network's streaming service:

https://themuse.jezebel.com/i-cant-stop-watching-this-late-1960s-soap-opera-about-a-1839441762

References and comparisons to Riverdale, Instagram, etc. help patch together a picture of the cultural context new viewers bring to our show. It's intriguing to me that against all apparent odds, they still feel the fascination and find the addiction.

This fandom, which is growing, can be found on social media and the occasional blog such as this one.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '21 I / It's a Penny Dreadful Halloween!
« on: October 31, 2019, 09:34:23 PM »
Dreary Ones,

Penny Dreadful's Halloween Special for 2019 is available FOR FREE right here!

https://vimeo.com/370013307

The most glamorous Horror Host of all Eternity is back for more fun, more thrills and more skull-duggery! Yay!!!!

Best Halloween Witches,

G.

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That sounds fascinating. Interesting that both Caldwell and Ron Sproat were gay. I only found out about Sproat a year or so ago.  It seems he left the show due to creative disagreements with DC and perhaps other writers. I thought Joe Caldwell was such a great writer but he'd disappear for months and I have no idea if that was due to Dan Curtis's whim or if he simply had other work on hand during those periods. Joe wrote one of my favorite scripts, the one that ends with a cat and mouse conversation with Julia and Barnabas, and then in the final scene Barnabas comes to her bedroom to kill her, only to be informed by "Miss" Hoffman: "I've been waiting for you a long, long time." A classic moment on the show.

G.

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KLS discusses her work on the audiobooks in this article, which I wanted to post on the Sleepy Hollow thread, but the search engine led me to a different thread and then I tried scrolling through to find it. And then I gave up when I saw this one.

https://www.filminquiry.com/sleepy-hollow-dark-shadows/

It's really extraordinary just how many errors are to be found in this short article. I realize it isn't Kathryn's job to keep the basic facts of DS history at her own fingertips even though she often seems to think of herself as a leading spokeswoman for the series, but at one time, journalists would do some basic fact-checking when composing an article of this kind.

I see nothing at all about the Frid documentary. Presumably Mary O'Leary did mention it in her presentation but the reporter may have failed to pick up on it.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: April 1971
« on: October 30, 2019, 05:28:40 PM »
A date that will live in infamy.

It was April 2. But it was no April Fool's.

Such an upsetting day...

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Innovation's '91 DS Comic, Book 2
« on: October 28, 2019, 05:18:53 PM »
In the version of the myth I remember from my childhood reading of Edith Hamilton, the blood from Medusa's severed head took form as the beautiful winged horse Pegasus. What I learned in my adult explorations of Greek mythology is that there were numerous versions of the old myths in circulation back in ancient times. These are dispersed in a really random way in various old authorities such as Apollodoros and Pausanias who traveled about and almost invariably introduce some odd new variant they've heard in their peregrinations with the phrase, "but some say..."

G.

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There seems to be a rule that every 10 to 20 years, the BBC has to film DRACULA again. This version seems to owe a lot to F. Coppola, Ken Russell, and Guillermo del Toro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC9TjMNqPEo

G.

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This one from the "Spooky Stories" series has some sound effects distinctly reminiscent of DS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NjEtGtMyd0

From 1978. I was in college at this time and completely oblivious of this particular series.

G.

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I think it might have been this one--the Archies singing "Jingle, Jangle." The Archies were interesting historically because lead singer Andy Kim (who of course wasn't credit at the time) was Korean-American. I think it was an early instance of an Asian-American singer on the charts (but not the first).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MewMx4zqes

The song title "Jingle Jangle" makes me think of Josette's music box... that's my excuse for posting it here!

If you search cereal box record on you tube you can find others of these by the Archies, the Monkees, the Jackson 5 and something called "Spooky Stories" from '78.

G.

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It's fascinating to hear that.

I vaguely recall these and we might have even cut one out of the back of the cereal box. Was it a Cowsill's record? I know it wasn't Bobby. It's such a vague memory that it might not be something I am recalling for real. I'd forgotten all about these.

Thanks for sharing the link, Midnite!

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Innovation's '91 DS Comic, Book 2
« on: October 25, 2019, 05:33:52 PM »
And now today Julia is telling Willie that Nathan's legs are gangrenous from blood loss.

I think there was some kind of communication failure between the artist and the writer, at this point. Wasn't this the final issue of this short-lived series?

G.

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That's great that you met Bridget Hanley and Robert Brown. I always thought Brown was sexy in a kind of rugged way, and I thought Bridget looked so wholesome and genuine. I remember reading back in the teen mags day that Bridget married a producer and presumably retired after Brides went off the air.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: Innovation's '91 DS Comic, Book 2
« on: October 23, 2019, 08:24:44 PM »
I'm wondering just what it is about Nathan's legs that have Willie exclaiming "Oh God." Presumably, Nathan is turning to stone, but that's not visually evident, to me at least. Thus, it's hard to resist the thought that Willie may be a secret, hardcore foot fetishist.

For those who find the theme of this story intriguing, I strongly recommend the classic 1964 Hammer studios film, The Gorgon. It offers an interesting variation on the old legend.

G.

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