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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0214
« on: January 19, 2007, 11:35:01 PM »
The real question is whether Mrs J used to serve Whip 'n' Chill as the dessert nearly every weeknight at Collinwood.

Oh boy, I am really pushing those memory banks here...

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0214
« on: January 19, 2007, 06:28:54 PM »
Great episode!  I remember the first time I saw it in '76 being enthralled by the wealth of detail Barnabas rolls out about the building of the Old House.  Vicki continues to be sharp on the ball here, too.  I know there's an episode in one of these early ones where Barnabas actually delivers a veiled threat to her.  There's a "Nancy Drew" element to Vicki, continued from the Matthew and Laura storylines, that I wish they had kept.

Isn't this the show where Roger makes the remark about bringing back a recipe for Indian pudding for Mrs J?  And he makes some smart remark about how hopeless her cooking is.  I love little details like this that add some color to the proceedings.

Anyone remember who wrote this show?

G.

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The DS producers seem to have decided decapitation was upping the ante, since Vicki's punishment in 1796 was the threat of being hung as a witch, while Quentin in 1840 faced public decapitation, something I'm quite sure has NEVER been practiced in US law enforcement but, what the hey.

I have read some descriptions of Tudor era public decapitations and it could be a grisly, prolonged death just as much as hanging was.  There was a reason why Anne Boleyn requested a swordsman from France to be her executioner--a request that Henry honored.

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0213
« on: January 18, 2007, 11:06:04 PM »
I first saw these shows back in early '76 when they were syndicated locally on a Philly UHF channel.  I remember being quite impatient with shows such as 213 at the time.

It wasn't until a few years ago that I was able to tape the last Sci Fi broadcast of 1967 in sequence and see all (or most of) the Laura Collins storyline and Jason's introduction, and see how things led up to Barnabas' arrival.  I appreciated episode 213 and its sequelae with a much more keen enthusiasm once I had the chance to view them in context.

cheers, G.

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Midnite, honey, you SLAY me!

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My roommate recently taped an episode of The Young & the Restless because former Beastmaster star Daniel Goddard had a bit role as a hustler in a bar.  I watched Goddard's scenes and after we had finished the tape suggested that the soap should be re-titled The Hung and the Listless.

I do have to say that the use of hairproducts and cosmetics, on both the female and the male principals, was impressive...

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0212
« on: January 18, 2007, 12:43:19 AM »
As I've mentioned before, a fan once wrote an article suggesting that Elizabeth, as the living Keeper of the Family Secret, was perfectly aware of Barnabas' identity as a vampire.  This fan claimed that Liz's hand was trembling when she took Barnabas' hand.  I've watched the episode several times and I can never see this.  The fan theorized that Liz decided to welcome Barnabas into the family because she figured HE might get rid of Jason.  It's an interesting notion, but quite a long shot.  If it were true, then Liz certainly did have nerves of steel--and fewer scruples than widely credited.

I'm guess that when this episode was written, an outline for the plot of the Barnabas storyline had not yet been prepared for the writers, which is why Barnabas speaks to Josette more as a guardian spirit of the family than as his long-lost love in this first episode.

I know that DC was in England at this time working on the Jack Palance Jekyll/Hyde... it would be interesting to know whether Bob Costello had the de facto head writer's chair at this point in time.  I read in an interview with Art Wallace, I believe, that he did a short outline for the introduction of Barnabas storyline--he said it was the last work he did on the show, although his contract had been written such that he kept his credit as creator of the series.

Best, G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0211
« on: January 18, 2007, 12:35:59 AM »
Oh yes, my dear Lydia, Dark Shadows constantly has me upbraiding my television set due to its BLATANT labefaction of moral fibre.  I still shed a tear whenever I contemplate the utterly unjust fate suffered by Minerva Trask, that pillar of moral rectitude *smirk*

I do confess to finding Joel Crothers' appearance in the Lieut. Forbes uniform to be uplifting... but perhaps not in the sense intended here.  *cheeky grin*

cheers, G.

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Like some others in the room, I got an emotional rush whenever DS music turned up in such things as the DC Frankenstein or Picture of Dorian Gray.  (I did see one of the broadcasts of the Jack Palance Jekyll/Hyde but don't recall the music so perhaps I saw it before I started watching DS--I started the latter in June of '68.)

Part of the emotionality of my response was the fact that DS was totally unavailable in Maryland from the time it went off the air in '71 until the syndication of the 1967 shows (which I of course had never seen the first time around).  I followed the latter on Philadelphia-based UHF station Channel 48 from its inception--as I recall it started around January of '76--and audio taped several episodes.  I was literally breathless with excitement the night Dr. Hoffman first appeared!  You bet your sweet bippy I had that tape recorder going that night!

So, during that period of five years or so, coinciding with a very traumatic period of my adolescence, my favorite TV show was not around.  I would play the old 1969 soundtrack LP, look at my Viewmaster reels, and get out my old magazines from time to time to get my DS fix.

A friend of mine recently watched DC's Picture of Dorian Gray and the music was one of the things that ruined it for him because he found it disconcerting and anachronistic.  I just shrugged and pondered how tastes differ.

cheers, Steve

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0210
« on: January 16, 2007, 11:41:24 PM »
Hi Arashi,

There were two portraits.  At some point (in mid to late 1969, I think), the original one was stolen.  Its whereabouts have never been determined.

The second one was used in hoDS, hung in Dan Curtis' office for many years, and is the one that was auctioned at the Festival last August.

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0211
« on: January 16, 2007, 07:36:21 PM »
I've always loved Clarice's reading of Mrs J's reaction to Barnabas' statement that he hails from England:  "Oh, from England!" 

I can just imagine Mrs J glued to the tube years later watching the Charles and Di royal wedding.

It's worth noting that in an interview somewhere or other (I have read so many, I honestly can't recall the source), Jonathan Frid praised Clarice Blackburn and basically said that it was entirely thanks to her solid support that he got through "that first day"!

There's a shot somewhere or other of Barnabas wearing that hat, a publicity shot.  As far as I know, he NEVER donned it again.

I hope my contributions to this thread are suitably "refiined'!

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0210
« on: January 16, 2007, 07:31:46 PM »
I have nothing to add beyond commenting that that screen capture of the close-up on Liz included in the Robservations PERFECTLY encapsulates what I adore about this period of the show!

And I agree, Bennett and Patrick played off one another brilliantly.

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: "miss morality"
« on: January 13, 2007, 09:57:21 PM »
I watched the final week or so of Jason Maguire episodes at some point last Summer, I think, and I remember very well this scene and being hugely impressed by it.

After it was over, there came some feelings of frustration about how the foreshadowing Jason gives in this sequence about future events in the life of Miss Winters is largely tossed out the window (presumably by executive order of DC).

Still a brilliantly written and, of course, beautifully acted scene.  Dennis Patrick is great as always and we get a taste of how much more Moltke could have done had her role not been dumbed-down with the full onset of the Barnabas years.

G.

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Happy Birthday to our very own "favorite Witch"!

All the best,

Steve

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Episode 658, Joel Crothers
« on: January 08, 2007, 09:59:48 PM »
MB, or somebody, posted a 1969 or 1970 soap mag interview with Joel in which he discussed his departure from DS in a fairly frank way.

He also revealed that he had written several episodes of the show, which I found quite fascinating.  I've never seen this mentioned in any other publication, which seems kind of sad.

Clarice Blackburn went on to become a fairly well-known writer for soaps, and it sounds as if Joel Crothers had that potential as well.  I have never heard whether he did any further writing in his later career?

I do LOVE Joel's thesping in his final episode as Joe.  It's so deliciously over-the-top!

G.

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