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Current Talk '02 I / Re: MONEY MATTERS
« on: April 10, 2002, 11:37:27 PM »
Beth and the cash for Mrs. Fillmore in 1897 that Quentin cast greedy eyes and hands upon.

Julia writing an absurdly large check for a Charles Delaware Tate daub in 1969.

1970PT Angelique Collins had to pay salon victim Bruno cold cash to get hold of the Cyrus Longworth diary with the info about her "sister's" death.

Barnabas in 1967 making indigent drunkard Sam Evans an offer he couldn't refuse for the privilege of having his portrait painted.

More examples would doubtless come to mind, if I thought about it longer.

Steve

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VAM, There was a post on the old board (I believe) from some DVD website (?) stating that the new tribute DVD and video will not be released until the time of the DS Festival this Summer.

Those of us with a familiarity with MPI's business methods were simply stunned by this delay.

To their credit, MPI HAVE kept the entire DS series in print, which is pretty exceptional.  Of course they have also made lots of money with that wise decision.

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: HAVE A HUNK
« on: April 10, 2002, 05:19:10 PM »
YAYYYY Istvan!

Thanks Vlad!  I was trying to remember his name but kept blocking on it!

He was such a doll--nearly 7 foot tall, but still, a doll!

Thanks again,

Gothick

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: How Much Longer???
« on: April 10, 2002, 01:02:53 AM »
Yes, Donna, isn't this part of the story turning into a dreary bore?  Every time folks exalt the 1795 storyline as DS' finest moment, I just remember these excruciatingly prolonged weeks of Roger Davis et al sawing wood in that courtroom set.

I'm afraid there are at least roughly 3 weeks (at the pace Sci Fi airs the series) to go of this.  At least they do take breaks from the courtroom antics to show what's happening elsewhere in town, from time to time. As for the trial, it gets livened up by a special star witness later this week or early next.  Let's just say it'll be an unexpected treat ...

Hope you continue to enjoy the show!

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: HAVE A HUNK
« on: April 09, 2002, 11:54:49 PM »
Bob, your posts to this topic and the "chick" one are a scream!  Honestly, you crack me up!  Thanks for bringing a smile to my well-worn features.  You have a wry sense of humor that reminds me of another online buddy of mine.

Incidentally, you named several of my favorite actresses on the show in your chick post.

And now to you, Ladies ... sorry to keep you waiting.  I'll have to check my tapes (and oh, the things I do for you fans!) but I'm pretty sure the episode where Julia rips Joe's shirt right off his hairy, sweat-streaked chest, his nipples ripe with exertion (oops I may be calling down the wrath of the mods now) ... to dress an unfortunate wound, is in MPI volume 77.  If it isn't that one, it must be 78, but I'm pretty sure it's 77 (unless it's somehow or other on 76 ...).

Lots of great scenes involving both Julia and Angelique in these tapes, too. Don't you both think you need to RUN, not walk, to the viddy rental emporium NOW?

Your most obedient factotum,

Gothick

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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 I / Re: Happy B-Day to mfmdpt!
« on: April 09, 2002, 07:54:35 PM »
Hope your birthday is the grooviest ever!

Many happy returns,

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Hey Everybody!!
« on: April 09, 2002, 04:56:50 PM »
Hey John,

great to see you again!  I think you had mentioned on the old board that you were moving out West, but it had completely slipped my mind.  Hope you're all settled now and enjoying sun & fun in glamorous SoCal!

Don't miss the latest post in honor of our beloved Grayson.  I think it's called Gay Men and Grayson Hall (aka The Big Wingding) and there are some fun and interesting observations in it.

Best,

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: The Charm Bracelet
« on: April 09, 2002, 01:03:44 AM »
Byron, are you alluding to the real St Christopher's medal that Alex Moltke wore on a wrist bracelet in many episodes to help get her through those endless scripts?  She discusses this in an interview on one of those MPI tapes, I think it was "DS behind the scenes."

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: HAVE A HUNK
« on: April 08, 2002, 11:17:47 PM »
Some hunks I have cherished on DS:

Don Briscoe.  Those eyes, that voice.  And then there's that chest.  Pardon me while I go fetch the drool towel.  I have read a magazine interview dated 1969 where he mentioned skateboarding by moonlight in Central Park as one of the things he liked to do for fun, and that is how I prefer to remember him--at ease, carefree, the wind ruffling his beautiful hair.

David Selby.  He just oozed sex--that wide, generous smile, those smoky blue eyes, the long long legs that seemed to go on forever (and then something else that, in certain scenes in 1897, seemed to go on forever, too).  It was a tribute to his prowess as an actor that he could turn all that charisma off and become a ghost, a zombie, or a possessed sorceror, frigid with evil.

Michael Hadge.  Obviously Buzz Hackett is hardly most folks' idea of a dream date, and he SERIOUSLY needed to do something with that hair (I still think it eventually wound up reincarnated as one of Cassandra's wigs.)  But underneath the ratty persona I found Hadge charming and a bit bohemian.  I bet he knew all the best Indian restaurants in the Village before they became a fad and enjoyed watching the comic-book plays at Caffe Cino.

Brian Sturdivant.  He deserved a lot better than what he got on DS.  I wonder whether he read for the role of Gerard?  Although I really enjoyed James Storm's performance in that role, it would have been interesting to see what Sturdivant would have made of it.  Watch for his cameo role in Diary of a Mad Housewife.

John Karlen.  Another master of chameleon-like transformation, he gave an air of the well-heeled lounge lizard to the role of William H. Loomis, alcoholic litterateur, and a surprisingly muscular sexuality to Desmond Collins.

Joel Crothers.  Clothes really made the man here since I found Joe mostly a well-meaning bore, but Nathan really rings my chimes.  Extra points for when Julia cut open Joe's shirt in that scene in the Old House, finally revealing his manly physique to camera view.

Chris Pennock.  At the time I thought it was funny that an evil hippie had come to terrorize Collinsport.  As an adult, I find a new appreciation for Jeb's leather trousers and the mystic Naga that accompanied him everywhere.  Extra points for a yummy shirtless scene during the Leviathans.  Sebastian's groovy threads win this talented young thesp bonus points in the stud sweepstakes.

Honorable mention for the unnamed actor who played the hapless chap from whom John Yeagar rented a basement apartment in PT 1970.  He was CUTE.

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '02 I / Re: Happy Birthday Profstokes
« on: April 08, 2002, 10:50:03 PM »
Happy birthday ProfStokes!  May your special day be one filled with celebration!

I always enjoy your posts, and Prof Stokes was one of my favorite characters both as a child and still today.  As the Professor himself states in one episode, "My appeal extends to all ages!"

Love and light to you on your special day,

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Grayson Hall and Gay Men
« on: April 08, 2002, 07:03:20 PM »
Great idea for a topic, and fascinating to read various fans' perspectives on Grayson's multi-faceted, many-layered appeal.  It is always a pleasant surprise to me to see the kind of passion Grayson arouses in her fans.  For a long time, Grayson fans were a kind of "underground" in fandom--for some reason or other, the status quo in fandom tended to laugh at Grayson and her characters rather than adulate or honor her.  It is always remarkable, though, whenever there is an honoring of DS actors who have passed on at a Festival, the kind of ovation Grayson receives whenever a clip of her is shown.  Her fans have a truly passionate loyalty to her memory.

I think of Grayson as bringing another level of "the diva factor" to DS.  There was already a kind of Old Hollywood diva energy on the show with Joan Bennett's presence (just look at the impossibly glamorous costume Liz was given to wear on that first episode).  I wrote somewhere that Grayson may well have been the first Oscar (tm) nominated thespian to perform a regular role on a soap. Even though I think those statuettes are a dubious barometer (at best) for an actor's prowess, there's no denying the kind of prestige placement in the contest commands.  

Some commentators have tried to explain gay men's love of Grayson, and especially Julia, with the rather simplistic explanation that Dr. Julia Hoffman dressed, moved, and wore makeup like a drag queen.  I don't agree, though sometimes the wardrobe and makeup they gave her went way beyond over the top (we need a special topic for "the scary awfulness of Dr. Julia Hoffman's wardrobe").  I think the reasons why gay male viewers relate to Julia is because first of all, nearly ALL of us have been in the position of having to be regarded as a "friend" by a man we'd rather relate to as a lover.  The cluelessness of Barnabas as to Julia's feelings (although he DOES occasionally acknowledge her feels and even more rarely hint that he does reciprocate them deep down) mirrors the cluelessness many of us knew from our str8 best friend that we had some crazy crush on in high school.  I agree too with Brian that sometimes real life is campy.  Hysterically so.  

A friend recently told me a story that illustrates just how Grayson can hold an entire room captivated with her performance, even on "the night of nights."  I had lent a copy of the "Grayson solo" MPI tape to a friend, who then lent it to another friend, who watched it with his housemate, who fell in love with Grayson at first sight.  This was a guy who was posted in Germany during the Sixties and never got to see DS as a result.  Well, T. insisted upon playing this video at the house's Oscar party to all their friends.  This entire roomful of largely gay men were completely absorbed by Grayson's performance.  They did watch the Oscars, but spent a large  part of the evening taking turns doing impressions of Grayson's acting and discussing their favorite moments in her scenes!

All the best, Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Spoiler Question
« on: April 08, 2002, 06:13:17 PM »
I thought the episode where Joshua learns the truth aired last Friday, or today.

Naomi doesn't find out until almost the very end of 1795, I believe.  It's heartbreaking.

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Favorite Spell-Caster
« on: April 06, 2002, 01:11:53 AM »
My favorite is Cassandra Collins. She always seemed to be on the verge of complete hysteria, which of course gave her spells extra zip.

Angelique always throws in those great one liners while she's revving up for the spell:  "Oh, you'll have him my dear--but not as you had intended!" She had the most complicated spells of any of them.  That card spell for the eye of ice and fire was a doozy.  Someone should do a compilation tape of all of Angelique's spells.  Of course there were several that backfired in a really nasty way ...

Nicholas was so deliciously DEBONAIR.  He brought a delightful charm and elegance to his spellcraft.  One of my favorite scenes was when he first went to the Old House and put Willie Loomis in his power.  They both played that so brilliantly.  Nicholas got so upset when Willie described Cassandra as a witch.

Magda is really in her own category, isn't she?  Her spells had a potency reminiscent of the pungent fumes of freshly ground pepper.  Both Magda and Angelique learned the real-life Craft fact:  A SPELL CAN NOT BE REVERSED.  Its effects can be nullified through the manifestation of new energy, but you can't simply reel it back in.  Just as you can never gather back water into a cup once it's spilled on the floor.  

Love Count Petofi.  His humor was so offbeat.  Even though he liked to paint himself as all-powerful, he never fully controlled his own powers, which made for some interesting twists in his storyline.

Then there's Evan Handley, possibly the show's most incompetent practitioner of the Black Arts.  You have to admit, though, that he did a great job with a spell I'll simply call "The Trask Commission" (for the benefit of those who haven't yet seen the show).

I found Gerard/Judah rather humdrum because his spells became so rote.  I think that was the fault of the writers, though, rather than James Storm's acting.

Natter, natter, natter ...

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: The Charm Bracelet
« on: April 06, 2002, 12:58:16 AM »
Birdie, I don't want to spoil the story for you, but you haven't seen the last of that charm bracelet.  Keep an eye out for it.

Best,

Steve

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Current Talk '02 I / Re: Make up madness....
« on: April 05, 2002, 02:25:30 AM »
This may not make any sense to anyone other than me ... but I think that Vinny Loscalzo (who did the makeup until, roughly, the last year of the series) was sometimes going for "artistic" effects that related to the events of a specific episode.   So Barnabas when the action of the episode called for his "vampiric" nature to be to the fore, got the heavier, more theatrical makeup.

And Josette got extra heavy eyeshadow when grief for Jeremiah or longing for Barnabas had gotten the better of her.

I personally think this kind of thing can be effective.  I guess my powers of suspension of disbelief are higher than average, plus I have to admit that I love theatre and this is one of the more theatrical touches on DS.

16 magazine once ran an interview with Vinny Loscalzo, and he showed a photo of Barnabas that had makeup notes on it he had made, ostensibly for days when he was ill and somebody else needed to pile on the greasepaint.

I believe that Grayson somewhere or other mentioned that on some days those who did not have special makeups to wear did their own.  On days when the actresses have more "natural" use of makeup, it may reflect a day when the actresses were doing their own faces because Vinny was needed to do the werewolf, or an aging effect, or something else special.

Also, don't forget that it was the Sixties.  The eye makeup in 1795 and 1897 is often very 1960s!

I did think that some of the makeup was truly amazing.  Not just feats like resuscitated Josette or aging Cassandra, but more understated stuff like Old Stokes of 1995, or the ghost makeup that made dead Quentiin look incredibly different from the living breathing version.

Well, that's my "counterpoint" to the endless complaints y'all have to offer about the makeup!

Steve

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