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Polls Archive / Re: Return To Collinwood - In Continuity or Not?
« on: January 04, 2006, 04:33:59 PM »
Just for the record:

I don't "disapprove" of writing fanfic, putting on new skits, etc.  Hell, when I had more time, I used to churn out the fic with the best of them (albeit my production speed leaves MUCH to be desired).  I just think there needs to be a differentiation between fic/pastiche/whatever and the original, aired shows.  The latter are canon.  These are established terms widely used in media fandoms, and I think they are used because they are helpful in charting the complicated terrain of shows that have attracted as much activity on the fic front as Dark Shadows (or Star Trek/Wars).

I have to admit I'll never be able to get very excited about the concept of a remake of the series.  Too bad the WB version vanished without a trace.  It did sound like something different enough from the original to be judged on its own merits.  I'm afraid I find that very difficult to do with the edition DC produced in 1990.

G.

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Polls Archive / Re: Return To Collinwood - In Continuity or Not?
« on: January 03, 2006, 07:39:39 PM »
Well, a lot of horrible stuff happened on the show, and then was later reversed.  The DS writers seem to have been blissfully unaware of the principle of Temporal Paradox, so they literally got away with murder on that show! I'm quite sure that the "end" to the Vicki storyline would have been changed by subsequent events, had the show continued--the fact that it happened during the last year meant that did not happen in canon.

I did like Dale Clark's suggestion of how this particular story might have been resolved, in the first of a very long series of novels he wrote some years ago.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '06 I / Re: Happy Birthday to jennifer!
« on: January 03, 2006, 05:04:07 PM »
Belated birthday greetings to you, dear!

Best wishes,

Steve

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Current Talk '06 I / Re: is liz a dish best served cold?
« on: January 03, 2006, 04:30:38 PM »
Barnabas' Bride,

have you seen the 1967 Jason Maguire storyline with Liz?  After the end of that, I found Liz's reaction to Paul entirely plausible.  [spoiler]  As I recall it, when she went to his hotel room when she first learned he was back in town, she was beyond icy and basically informed him to get outta town!  I thought the Leviathans' influence simply brought out even more her real feelings about him, which were ones of utter contempt.  That whole episode from which this scene is excerpted is FABULOUS work from Joan Bennett, with great support, of course, from Dennis, Clarice, and Thayer.[/spoiler]

G.

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Polls Archive / Re: Return To Collinwood - In Continuity or Not?
« on: January 03, 2006, 04:25:04 PM »
I haven't heard or seen it (and from all accounts, Jamison is a very talented writer), but since it was not part of the broadcast series, it can't be part of the canon of DS.

It goes without saying that NONE of the "Marilyn Ross" novels are DS canon, either--thank the Gods!

Sam Hall presented his original article (in text that I don't think made it to the version on the videotape) as possibilities for the fates of the characters.  I do love the idea of Barnabas and Julia marrying, especially in Singapore...

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: Horrific abomination
« on: December 29, 2005, 03:45:57 AM »
Is the current floatie meant to represent a hanging bunch of mistletoe?  It sort of looks like a bunch of jalapeno peppers to my eye.

I tried posting about this when I was on yesterday, and the server kept telling me I had already posted it--whatever.

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: ohrbach's and old lace.an informal poll.
« on: December 28, 2005, 12:35:39 AM »
 Of course I love and adore all of it but the shows set in "the Present" (as opposed to "the Pahst"--don't you just love Joan Bennett's diction in that phrase?) seem to have a more "hardcore" DS feel to them, probably because I watched when it was first on and those clothes help bring the time and place back to me all the more vividly.

I also have to comment how impressed I am by the color and image clarity on the DVDs.  I only have one set, the one that includes the introduction of Cassandra.  On her first day on the show, Cassandra wore this coat I'd always regarded as hideous (and maybe the powers that be agreed, because she never wore it again).  Well, after watching the episode on the DVD, I felt as if I was looking at that coat for the first time, and it's actually kind of pretty!  Fior some reason the color scheme did not "read" nearly as well in the VHS as it does on the DVD.

I also love being able to see minute details such as shoe design, jewellry, those incredible hair styles, and so on through the magic of digitization.  I think Darren explained why the DVDs have a greater degree of clarity--it's something technical about how much visual information a digital format can carry as opposed to analogue tape.  Seeing is believing as far as I'm concerned, so I never paid attention to these things until I saw the proof in something I know as well as I do these episodes of Dark Shadows.

Of the historical episodes, I think my favorite costumes were in 1897, especially the amazing get-ups worn by Magda and "Pansity," Count Petofi's fur coat, Quentin's dashing ensembles including those wonderfully tight trousers, Edward's very "Late Victorian gentleman at home" wardrobe, Judith's journey from black-clad spinster to triumphant newlywed--I could go on and on.  It's just too bad they didn't give Angelique more interesting clothes for that period.  Parker wore some wonderful clothes as Cassandra.  I know I am one of the few who likes those clothes but I take comfort in the fact that Luciaphil also enjoys them.  Mscbryk, what do you think of Cassandra's wardrobe?

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Commercials on DVD
« on: December 27, 2005, 01:21:13 AM »
They've only ever included the commercials for the very first episode, and for a selection of three shows that was on the last Colectors Series tape.  They included some episodes that had old commercials in which the DS stars appeared.

I wish someone would find Grayson's Playtex bra commercial and include that as an extra.  I think it was run during Dark Shadows a few times in 1970, so it should be on some of the original master tapes.

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Dark Shadows music on CD
« on: December 23, 2005, 05:54:42 PM »
I have them all. I was always obsessed with the music from DS (I remember being terribly excited when some DS music cues were suddenly used on Sat. Night Live in the late Eighties) so I had to get all of these.  I bought the vol. 2 through 4 ones at a store called Footlights Records in NYC many years ago.  MPI was selling them.  There is also the hoDS/NoDS soundtrack disc from Rhino, and at least one other DS music CD that had a lot of the rare 45s, including a thing that I think was recorded for a flexidisc sent to the Jonathan Frid fan club members.  It sounds as if Jonathan was standing in a linen closet when it was recorded, for some reason--the sound is very "matte" but I suppose it is a miracle it still exists!

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: Molly? Or Amy?
« on: December 22, 2005, 10:52:12 PM »
MB, many thanks for sharing those fascinating clippings about the original names of the Jennings children.  I don't recall having seen those before.  Never recall having heard of Chris being "Bob" originally.  Molly, of course, I knew about because it's in the show.

Do we have documentary evidence for the Julia(n) "typo"?  Bob Costello and Grayson Hall told conflicting versions of how Grayson was cast on the show.  In Grayson's version, she got a phone call, got dressed, and cabbed over to the studio for her very first episode, which was recorded the very next day.  Talk about instant casting.

G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Episode 127
« on: December 21, 2005, 11:45:29 PM »
Many thanks to MB for posting the cool captures from Episode 127.  That's another one that I'm missing (I believe I failed to set my VCR properly that day when it was run on Sci Fi the last time, since I have the others from that sequence).  I'd always wondered just when Liz told her ghost story.  Fascinating to learn that they gave Liz an encounter with Josette's ghost as part of her backstory, too.

G.

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Luciaphil's Idle Thoughts '05 / Re: It Must Be Love -- Episodes 99 & 100
« on: December 21, 2005, 11:15:06 PM »
Luciaphil, darling,

What a delightful Yuletide treat!  I love your comments about these episodes.

Here's to 2006 being a VAST improvement upon the Year that Was!

G.

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Penny, I'm in awe of all the talent on display here!  And I'm thrilled that one of my top fave films, "Horror Hotel," is featured in the Salem Witch Trial segment (which looks like a hoot!)

Oh, and yeah, Garou is one sexy, hairy dude!  As for Dr. von Bulow, he majorly needs a chill pill!

Loved the segment from "Drunk Shadows" with that "special guest"!  Hee Hee!

Best,  G.

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Current Talk '05 II / Re: How DS Fests effect your DS viewing -
« on: December 20, 2005, 05:31:52 PM »
MB, dearest darling, the Spanish Inquisition missed out on a MARVELOUS resource in the fact that you were born several centuries too late to help out at the elbow of Cardinal Fang and the Comfy Chair...

*mopping brow*

Gothique

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Oh frabjous day! calloo! callay!

G.

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