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Current Talk '21 I / Re: WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 31, 2017, 01:51:37 AM »
MB, I had noticed (since I have been following this thread with great interest) that you were following the sequence of the pilot as we saw it in 2005 rather than this new edit.  I do wonder whether the new edit has been prepared for an official disc release. 

I look forward very much to the April display for the 2004 pilot!

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: ** BIG CHANGES COMING FOR THE NEW YEAR **
« on: March 31, 2017, 12:02:48 AM »
Again, awesome work!

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 31, 2017, 12:00:31 AM »
MB, I just love the new collage of snaps from the pilot!

Matt Czuchry was so sexy and adorable.  I've heard he's very friendly and appreciative of gay fans, too, which means a lot.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 29, 2017, 11:39:49 PM »
He (or they) is a fairly well known fan.  I don't think it would be proper to further identify in a public forum for obvious reasons.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '17 I / Re: Art Wallace-The House
« on: March 29, 2017, 03:33:46 PM »
Thanks for this link, Doctor and K9.  I now remember that I had seen this several months ago but did not have time to watch it.  Youtube is really amazing.  I seem to remember that this was something a fan recorded on their phone from a Festival screening.

Again off topic, last night on the Tube I found a 1958 episode of THE SHIRLEY TEMPLE SHOW with Agnes Moorehead playing a Witch in Rapunzel.  It was so cool.

G.

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Fans,

Ever wonder what DS might have looked like had Agnes Moorehead and Jonathan Harris been cast in lead roles?  A hint of what might have been is offered in this 1960 hour long adaptation of Nathaniel Hawthorne's HOUSE OF THE 7 GABLES, originally presented on the anthology series, THE SHIRLEY TEMPLE SHOW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XLlqBHr3vo

The cast also includes Shirley Temple in the ingenue role (born around 1928, she would have been around 32 at the time), with Martin Landau, Robert Culp, and John Abbott.

Vincent Price also appeared in an adaptation of the Hawthorne novel in the film TWICE TOLD TALES in the early 1960s--this one wandered even further afield from the Hawthorne source novel, and had an even more explicit horror atmosphere.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 29, 2017, 02:25:41 AM »
I was wondering if the time differential might be accounted for by closing credits.  Thanks for posting that, Doctor and K9 (I have been watching some Tom Baker Who stories again so your handle makes me smile).

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 29, 2017, 02:13:15 AM »
When I started watching the pilot the other day, the thought crossed my mind that this was something that had been prepared for the new DVD which another fan says has now been delayed.

If it was something that sanctioned work was done on, that would explain the differences, which, as you say, can only be accounted for if the person had access to materials never before seen by the public.

Looking forward to any other thoughts you have about this or differences revealed from your notes.

G.

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That's very optimistic, MB.  I figured it was more like a .01 (or maybe that's .001) percent chance... about the same chance as Hell freezing over.  Though, in this era of climate change, who knows.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 28, 2017, 02:15:05 AM »
I still remember you-know-who commenting at the 2005 Festival before the screening, a propos of the pilot, "It shoulda been a slam dunk."  I do not think you-know-who was at liberty to discuss the full circumstances of why WB rejected the series.

It was an odd turn of phrase to hear at a DS fan event and it has stuck with me over the years.

Wasn't there talk last year of another DS disc release which was going to have some new material on it including a new documentary?  Of course, the only thing I am really interested in is Grayson's Playtex commercial... yes, as a card carrying member of HALLOHOLICS ANON, I would buy it for that...

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 27, 2017, 05:19:37 PM »
I really have only vague memories of that 2005 screening.  I do remember that I found the ending ridiculous.  So it was a surprise when I watched it again and actually thought the ending now worked.  It certainly works a hell of a lot better this way than what I recall from the unfinished edit that was screened over a decade ago.

I would guess that there was going to be a different theme for Josette's music box.  It's amazing just how much they crammed into this.  There were originally going to be more scenes for Angelique. I've wondered if those were actually filmed.

The most significant difference between this and the Burton-Depp film, for this viewer, is that Alec Newman is outstanding as Barnabas.  I thought Depp was a disaster in the role. Obviously, we are all at liberty to agree to disagree.

G.

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Current Talk '21 I / Re: WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 26, 2017, 10:04:06 PM »
The complete pilot is on Youtube now, but I don't expect it to be up for long:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0gLTmrsltU

It was interesting to see it again.  It was a little better than I had remembered from my previous single viewing.  Alec Newman is a standout as Barnabas.

Best, G.

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Ah OK it's yet another comic book adaptation.  Last year a UK fan sent me an interesting short comic based on Kronos that appeared somewhere or other back in the early or mid 1970s.

I suddenly feel much less excited... though I'm less than optimistic now whenever a "re-boot" of a classic character or story from the "old days" is mooted.

G.

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Kronos (as it is commonly known in Hammer fandom) has acquired quite the cult following over the years.  I first saw it on the CBS Late Movies sometime in the mid 1970s.  I think it's a pretty cool film--not entirely successful, perhaps, but much more interesting than a lot of the more polished, glossy, compact productions.

I presume this is happening because Brian Clemens died last year (I think it was last year?) and perhaps someone approached his sons for the rights to the Kronos project.  It had originally been meant to be a sequel but the release and distribution of the original film was so badly botched that the movie had only a spotty and intermittent appearance in theaters--plus, of course, Hammer studios was in a state of collapse by the time the movie played here, around 1974 I think.  Horst Janson, who was I think German (perhaps Austrian?) plays Kronos and does have a presence that might make you think of Michael York.  The last I heard, Horst was still alive and active as an actor.

An intriguing facet of the original movie was the use of some very offbeat folklore that sets it apart from the usual Hammer vampire film.  I've never known if that folklore was something Clemens invented, or found in Montague Summers.

G.

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MB, thanks for all those pages of material from the script that was cut, plus the long passage from the Ross book.  I read that 47 or so years ago but have no memory at all of this scene and this answers another question I've wondered over the years--why was Professor Stokes over at the house that evening?  Odd to see that Stokes fancied himself some sort of Miss Marple to the family.  His words have a sadly ironic ring given how it all ended.

Best,  G.

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