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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0742
« on: March 25, 2009, 06:02:28 PM »
Thanks, Midnite.  I have to confess that the whole concept of "spoiler warnings" around a show that aired 40 years ago baffles me--so feel free to offer further direction in the future!

I was amused stopping in at a slightly out of the way video rental store the other day to see a photocopied Battlestar Galactica flier taped to the front door with a magic marker notice to the effect that the store was a "BG spoiler free zone."

G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0742
« on: March 25, 2009, 05:16:38 PM »
Hi MSC,  I think you said that you've never seen 1897--is that correct?  Anyhow, the 1897 Laura did carry within her the 18th century Laura's memories.  Barnabas in a ceremony that came from the Book of the Dead was able to summon up the ghost of the 18th century Laura (btw, in a typical DS continuity lurch, they revised the dates so that I think the 18th century Laura had died in the 1780s instead of the 1760s), which made the then "current" incarnation disappear for a few moments.  Clearly, the two on some plane both were--and were not--identical.

The 1897 Laura was much more explicitly linked to ancient Egyptian religion, specifically the cult of Ra.  I don't recall that figuring at all in the 1966 story, apart from vague references to the homeland of the Phoenix in Laura's dreamy, rather scary "soliloquies."

G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0742
« on: March 24, 2009, 07:34:40 PM »
William Mann (who subsequently became a well-known author of old-time celebrity biographies and gay-themed novels) wrote up a speculative biography of "the Lauras" that was published in Dale Clark's old zine Inside the Old House.  He came up with a scenario for how Laura first came to be, that I think involved her sea-captain father in the early 18th century making a devil's bargain with the god Ra.  Anyhow, his theory was also that each Laura carried within herself the seed of the eternal Phoenix spirit, and that this spirit was awakened with Laura's first "death by fire."

G.

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I'd planned to go at least for part of the weekend to visit friends, but I am re-evaluating those plans given how inaccessible and bloody DREARY this venue sounds.

How could Pierson choose something so hard to get in and out of in such a generally well-served area as great NYC?

G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Horror Hosts and the DS Phenomenon
« on: March 19, 2009, 05:45:22 PM »
Ugh, I mis-spelled innocuous.  I HATE getting old.

grumpy old G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Supernatural Creatures Never Used!
« on: March 19, 2009, 03:47:49 PM »
I think I've seen references to there having been discussions of doing a mummy story. I believe, although I could be misremembering, that DC blew the idea out of the water because he didn't think mummies were at all scary, and were even ridiculous because of how they shamble along in the 1940s series and you would think anyone would be able to outrun the creature.

If Laura had come back a third time, it would have been cool to have incorporated a mummy into the story--perhaps a High Priest of Ra who was in thrall to her and could be summoned not to kill, but to drive variouis people in Laura's way temporarily insane, speechless, and exiled to Wyndcliffe so she could proceed with her monstrous plans.

G.

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The "revised" texts are really new recensions of each book.  New photos although I think some articles may be repeated from the Almanac. 

I still remember the day I found My Scrapbook Memories.  I believe it was 1987 and I was visiting a massive sci-fantasy type store in NYC called Forbidden Planet.  I remember the warm feeling when I saw the cover of the book--like a snapshot from my own childhood scrapbook.  I think KLS was very surprised by how vigorously the book sold.

G.

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I am very sorry to hear about John and Peter's predicament.  I hope they can find a good buyer for their treasure.

NYC is a very tough row to hoe when you're short on cash.  My thoughts are with them.

G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Horror Hosts and the DS Phenomenon
« on: March 19, 2009, 03:37:46 PM »
After posting this topic, I realized I had left out one major anthology series that started in the mid 1950s and had a very memorable host--and the stories ranged from mystery and suspense to the occasional hint of the supernatural:  Alfred Hitchcock Presents.

The shows back then set a very high bar in the writing field.  What made me lose interest in current television was the lack of literate writing, although I think there are some good scripts being produced on the premium channel shows (a friend of mine has been raving about Big Love, which seems to be a Mormon Horror Soap Opera--talk about creating your own genre!)

Dear God--we now have BUNNIES in lieu of smilies!  Let the stomping and chomping commence!  For there are sharp, hungry teeth lurking behind that inoccuous-seeming mass of fluff.

G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Horror Hosts and the DS Phenomenon
« on: March 19, 2009, 12:20:51 AM »
Dear Fans,

Last night I played a couple of the interview segments on the DVD set, Dark Shadows The Beginning: vol. 5.  One of  the interviews was with Leonard Wolf, who I last caught sight of back in the Seventies on a late night talk show with Peter Cushing and Forry Ackerman.  Anyhow, Leonard Wolf comes in to try to explain why the DS pop cultural phenomenon hit so big in the late Sixties.  He contrasts the Fifties, which he describes as a culturally and psychologically "desiccated" era, with the Sixties which exploded as the decade wore on with ever more violent and jarring arcs of revolutionary ferment on every level.

After playing the interview, I was thinking about the late 1950s as the period when the vogue for "Horror Hosts" became a phenomenon of its own.  I was trying to recall when Vampira's show was running--I think it was quite early, possibly around 1955?  From the little I know, it seems as if Zacherley's show became the first really big instance of this type of show.

Although the horror hosts and their "creature features" were a very different type of show from our beloved DS, it does seem to have paved the way for other types of series such as Boris Karloff's Thriller and the Addams Family.  Having an afternoon supernatural series looks from this point of view like the next logical step, although of course it was a very radical step for the production team to take.

I like the interviews with the ABC publicity guy who keeps remarking how the network suits had no idea what DS was about, how it should be handled, or really just why it was so popular.

Just a few thoughts--those of you who have done more research on horror hosts might have something to add.  Interestingly, I don't recall horror host shows in my childhood in Maryland until the early 1970s.  In the Sixties, the airings of horror movies I used to watch were not hosted, although they had spooky music and imagery to introduce each week's offering.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '09 I / Re: New Dark Shadows site
« on: March 18, 2009, 08:02:01 PM »
Great site, and I only had time to look at some of the Daughters of Darkness shots...

I did spot a typo; in the set-up line in italics on the front page, "unleash" appears as "unlease."

Best wishes,

G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Dark Shadows: the First Year?
« on: March 18, 2009, 07:55:37 PM »
KLS' PomPress books are always printed on glossy paper with loads of beautifully printed color photos, and the business managed to do this because all the books were produced in, I believe, a printing firm in South Korea. 

I wonder whether an attempt was made to do "The First Year" through PomPress.  I have heard of others who tried to get their books published with that firm, only to be told that Pom isn't doing any more DS (or vintage television, or whatever) titles.  Then a year later KLS announces her NEXT book.  sigh.

I'll order the book but with the expectation that it will be printed on a lower grade paper which means a lot of detail will be lost in the photos.  At least I can hope that there are no distortions in the photos due to the printer messing up scans of old pictures.  This has happened in more than one Shadows themed book I can think of...

G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Dark Shadows: the First Year?
« on: March 18, 2009, 05:49:48 PM »
Hey darlin',

I should have included this link in my original post, but y'know, Momma always said I was a bit "slow" ...

http://www.darkshadowsfestival.com/page06.htm

It doesn't say what the format is (i.e. glossy paper or plain) but it does state "full color cover"!  There were a few color candid shots from 1966 included in some previous PomPress books.

The Ann Wilson episode guide I use is in a volume entitled Dark Shadows Memories which is supposed to be an update of the old "My Scrapbook Memories" but is a completely new work.

And I was wrong about the Thayer David antiquing series--I think that may be in the DS Almanac, *original* edition.  If any Thayer David fans need me to confirm this, just let me know.    (Seems to be just a few of us here--we need to help one another out!)

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Dark Shadows: the First Year?
« on: March 18, 2009, 03:55:54 PM »
Has anyone on here ever purchased the book Dark Shadows: the First Year?  I saw an ad for it on one of the Laura Collins DVDs last night and am intrigued.  Great cover, and the photo selection looks boss.

This one is available only through the DS Festival--and for all I know may now be OP.  I think the book came out around 2007--maybe earlier.

G.

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Current Talk '09 I / Re: Question about Quentin and ratings
« on: March 17, 2009, 08:36:36 PM »
Thanks so much, MB!  Now of course I remember that panel--derived from a favorite Barnabas publicity shot...

I seem to remember thinking that one "interpretation" of this image was that it wasn't Q's portrait, but his phantom that was looking out from a distance--rather like the representation of the ghosts in the old film The Innocents (with Deborah Kerr).

Thanks for the Tuesday afternoon treat!

G.

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