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Also, note that the order in which the IMDB lists performers ordinarily has zilch to do with billing (in some cases, it seems to go alphabetically), which is a real nuisance when you're scrolling through a long cast list of an unseen production trying to determine who the principal players were.  The IMDB is pretty much a world unto itself.  With all its faults, however, it is a very useful resource, so long as you bear in mind the guideline that every fact needs to be checked--same goes with the "Wikipedia."

cheers, Gothick

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Cousin B, I can't give you details--I am sure someone who follows the current industry will be able to do that for you--but billing is HUGE in contracts. You are talking about a class of people who really obsess over this sort of thing, and it is a big part of what they pay their "people"--agents and so on--to guarantee for them.

The number of scenes or lines in the final print has nothing to do with an actor's billing. Zsa Zsa Gabor was billed as a star of the Orson Welles classic Touch of Evil.  She had one scene and, if recall, all of two lines.  And the lines went something like:  "Miss Fifi?  I do not know her."  For reals, babe.

Hollywood is a strange place. And that was the 1950s. Nowadays--you have creatures like the Kardashians who are famous solely because they're famous.  Don't ask me to figure that one out.

G.

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KLS and the others were only at Pinewood for a day or two at most.  Unless Burton's people decide to be super generous (which I doubt), I do not think she would have enough material from that brief encounter to fill a book length memoir.  That accounts for the inclusion of other material in the book.  There's been mention of "previously unpublished photographs" in the Hermes Press reprints of the Gold Key comic books, so it does seem as if KLS truly has even more photos sitting around at home we haven't seen, although the quality of anything being excavated now may be somewhat dubious if all the best shots were weeded for her numerous previous books about the show.  (I still laugh when I recall somebody telling me around 2004 that KLS had informed the individual that she "wasn't doing anymore Dark Shadows books" out of PomPress.)

I am sure there will be a number of media tie-in pubs for this project.  Given the screenwriter's rep I am sure there will be a script book, and there will probably be a third book that is set photos, etc. for the Depp fan market.

On the topic of how the 2012 movie will be edited, I would be very surprised if the story is told in "chronological order" starting with 1752. I expect the movie to begin with Victoria's arrival at Collinsport, perhaps counterpointed with scenes of [spoiler]Barnabas' coffin being excavated, as described in the Empire mag article.[/spoiler] But Burton may change his mind about a lot of things as he goes through his usual intensive, prolonged and elaborate postproduction work on the film.  We may end up with only brief snippets and clips from the 18th century sequences.  At least in this era of extras-laden DVD releases, we can expect at least some deleted scenes when the movie hits the home video market.

G.

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MB, that is fascinating about cigarette smoking meaning an instant R rating.  I notice so many 20 somethings, particularly bright hip ones, around Cambridge puffing away like nobody's business.  I assume that the cigarette companies targeted kids in middle school and high school, but of course this crowd also watches a lot of mid 20th century films and television shows and the old association of cigarettes and coolness seems to be back with us.  It's sooo sad. 

Even though Grayson claimed to have given up smoking in 1970, we all remember Julia with her cigarettes in hoDS.

It was touching reading an interview with Don Briscoe from a group of fans visiting him in the 1990s and he said that Dan Curtis had him smoke during a scene in a 1968 episode and it bothered him because of the bad example he was setting on a show popular with kids.  Don had such a huge heart.

I only watched the X Files intermittently but I remember noting that whenever a character lit up a cigarette it usually meant that within 5 minutes, the person would encounter a grisly death.

michael, I definitely agree that a seance (preferably pronounced a la Joan Bennett:  "SAY-awnce") is a MUST for the Burton film. I can think of a couple of possibilities from what has already been revealed about the plot...

G.

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I'm envisioning a scene where Julia says:  "Barnabas!  Barnabas, if you insist on going outside during the day with Vicki, I have something you MUST use beforehand.  You MUST, Barnabas!"

Close-up shows a bottle labeled Sun-block SPF 175.

G.

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Gawd  In-na-gadda-da-vi-da, baby.

I'd forgotten all about the weird looking Golem...

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '11 II / Re: moretz party pic
« on: November 17, 2011, 05:06:53 PM »
I had never heard of her either, and in all honesty, I still wouldn't know her if I fell over her.  There are thousands of girls running around Boston who look just like her.  Fame is an odd beast.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '11 II / Re: moretz party pic
« on: November 17, 2011, 01:54:41 PM »
Moretz is the ideal age for today's latest, hottest fashions, isn't she? 

It's weird to think of Carolyn being portrayed by a kid... sounds as if the role is going to be a blend of Amy, Hallie and 1966 Carolyn...Her name will certainly add to the marquee value of the project.

Thanks for the photo.  Wasn't this the same night when the "burning of the Reichstag" style eviction of Occupy Wall St. occurred?  New York is a  strange place...

cheers, G.

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Dear Philippe, I associate that poem with DS and with us fans because Jonathan Frid read the poem beautifully against a backdrop of one of Bob Cobert's most beautiful compositions on the original 1969 DS soundtrack LP.  I think the track title was "The Secret Room."  There's a youtube video for this but the music failed to load and I guess the fan was never able to fix it.  Maybe someday, you'll get to hear the recording.  He read it so very beautifully.  As I recall, the poem was entitled "Rest."

There is another Rosetti poem that Frid read on that album that is on Youtube--it's "When I am Dead, My Dearest."  The music I always associate with Liz plays in the background on that one.

Best, G.


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Thanks for the nice note, sweetie!  Whenever you're not around for awhile I figure it is that danged old beastie laughingly known as "real life" getting in the way of fun again.

I don't think that people who are fortunate enough not to live with chronic pain have a clue just how debilitating and exhausting it is. 

here's to healing and more fun in your life!

G.

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@Cousin Barnabas, your revised lyrics for Lara's Theme crack me up!  Thanks for sharing!

G.

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My condolences to the family.  She sounds as if she was a really lovely individual.  May she truly rest in peace.

"Darkness more clear than noonday holdeth her;
Silence more musical than any song--
Even her very heart hath ceased to stir.
Until the morning of Eternity
Her rest shall not begin nor end; but be;
And when she wakes, she will not think it long."

G.

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Thanks, MB--I like these better.  The aerial shots of Collinwood, while good, make me think of the opening credits of Dynasty!

Thanks for taking the time to track these down.

Best, G.

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From a non-gamer... it looks too boxy, crowded, and "fake" to my eye.  The drawing room is nice but doesn't really look at all like the Collinwood drawing room.  I hope she isn't on here because she says she worked really hard at all of it, and probably to those who are used to how places look in Second Life or whatever this is, it's fine. 

It's funny to read someone recalling that "Quinton" danced with Angelique to "Laura's theme" on the "music box"--several DS characters and storylines colliding there with Dr. Zhivago, methinks...

G.

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It's pretty cool that the MTV machine is promoting Depp Shadows as "one of the tentpole releases of 2012."  (an intriguing turn of phrase--various images come to mind around the metaphor of "tentpole releases," particularly since yesterday we were honoring the iconic deliciousness that lurked in Lieut. Nathan Forbes tight trousers--lol!)

I did spot some errors in the columnist's synopsis of certain plot events from DS.  The most egregious were the notion that Julia was seeking a cure for Barnabas "so he could be with" Vicki--Doctor might have had a thing or two to say about that.  And the presumption that Vicki returned from her sojourn in 1795 with "full knowledge" of Barn's secret, which of course was his fear, when in fact, she ended up not really knowing about it at all, and then having amnesia about it after subsequent developments in 1968.

But hey, a press item about DS without mistakes would be like an episode of the series without bloopers--ALMOST unheard of.

G.

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