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Current Talk '04 I / Origins of I Ching Storyline
« on: June 21, 2004, 07:41:47 PM »
For years, I've wondered just where the DS writers got the idea of using the I Ching hexagrams for astral/time travel on the show.  I've read a lot of books on occult theory and practice over the years, and have read much of the I Ching itself in Chinese. Although in the Great Preface it states that the I Ching hexagrams are, in a sense, the keys to unlocking cosmic processes in which our universe originates and through which it is shaped, hence their ability to give clues to affairs of human destiny, I have never read of any description in Chinese magical lore using the hexagrams in the way they were employed on DS.

Last night I was looking at a collection of Golden Dawn materials collected and edited by English occultist Francis King in 1971.  There's quite a bit in there on astral travel.  Anyhow, in a preface King composed to one section, he quotes from some notes W. S. Seabrook published about a Working in the 1920s using the I Ching hexagrams in just the way they were used on DS.  The text implies that Seabrook got the technique from Aleister Crowley, who paved the way for the current Neo-Pagan practice of mixing and matching practically any technique from any culture into a general matrix of magical methodology. 

What's even more significant in terms of DS is that the woman in Seabrook's account threw the 49th Hexagram, KO, the Hexagram of Change or Transformation.  In the course of the Working, the woman went into a trance and had a shapeshifting experience in which she shifted into a wolf (there was no physical transformation, but she behaved and even howled like a wolf).  Before she was brought out of her trance, the woman attacked and injured a British consul officer who was present to observe the Working.

I can supply more detailed references, if anyone cares.  It was a big surprise to me to discover that there was a factual basis for all of this.  I always regarded it as one of DS' wildest ideas!  After reflecting, I'm not surprised to learn that the ultimate origin for this way-out notion is the Great Beast himself, Ali Crowley!  (Grayson staggers and moans, "YOU BEAST!")

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Tom Jennings... YOU ... WILL ... RISE!!!
« on: June 18, 2004, 11:39:16 PM »
Is it just me, or does anybody else think this is one of the *finest* pieces of, um, dialogue in DS history!

I know Tom Jennings was one FINE man, and he surely was more than just a PIECE.

I wish there had been a reunion with Julia.  He probably grumbled to Nick, "forget that little governess, I want a REAL WOMAN!!!"

I do love the scene where Julia encounters Chris at the hospital and freaks.  I love Chris' expression as he attempts to soothe her, too.

Unrepentant, unreconstructed lover of the REAL Dark Shadows,

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re: DS - Could It Have Continued To Today?
« on: June 18, 2004, 09:32:08 PM »
A lot of the scenes, especially in 1966, only make emotional sense if Liz is really Vicki's Mother.  For one thing, from the beginning, Vicki gets away with stuff that NOBODY else at Collinwood, not even David, can manage to do.

I also think that Liz's traumatised emotional reaction to Vicki's ultimate fate can only be explained if the reality is that Vicki was her firstborn.

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re: Art Wallace's "The House"
« on: June 18, 2004, 03:18:25 PM »
There's a summary of the storyline for "The House" in one of those PomPress books--I think the revised version of the DS Almanac?  From what I can recall, Caroline is a reclusive widow who makes ends meet by teaching piano to village pupils.  Her unruly daughter is Elizabeth.  I think the story revolved around plans for a party in the titular "House."  (OTOH, my memory could be fabricating that last bit.)  From the scraps I can recall, the story bore no resemblance to anything by Hawthorne--certainly not House of the 7 Gables.

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re: 1795:a query
« on: June 17, 2004, 09:14:31 PM »
But... what about Abigail's scene (Clarice in the REAL DS) where she rails to Victoria for about 10 minutes about her scandalous, unspeakable clothes???  Did you miss that episode?

I have to admit I loved Julianna McCarthy's version of this in the 1990 remake.  I still laugh when I think of she said those words "cold... pressed"!

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: IE Bug Invites Phishing Attacks
« on: June 17, 2004, 03:38:22 PM »
MB, this is really OT, but can you give me a clue about this word "meme"?

It's mainly used on the Live Journal site to refer to these little daily quizzes and games, but a woman I know used it to refer to a seasonal party she's hosting, and THAT threw me for a loop.

I don't know that the word is searchable via google, but I might just give it a shot.  It's really getting on my nerves.

Is there a standard pronunciation?  The only time I have heard it spoken, it was pronounced like the French word "meme" (i. e., "mem"), but that was from a Canadian...

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re: 1795:a query
« on: June 16, 2004, 10:43:47 PM »
Folks, just to clarify:  I'm not saying 1795 is bad.  I think overall it's a great story, even though it contradicted practically everything we had told about the past of the Collins Family up till that time--certainly everything about Barnabas and Josette (just go back 3 weeks before the start of 1795 to a long scene between Barnabas and Julia where he admits to her that Josette in life *never* reciprocated his love).

I just think that it's overrated.  Time and again, fans run polls on the best storyline, and 1795 always winds up winning.

Of the historical storylines, I personally prefer 1897.  Jeeeeepseeeee!  I don' kno NAHSSINGK!

And then there's Count Petofi, who may have been the most literate character in all American television history.

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re: 1795:a query
« on: June 16, 2004, 03:23:03 PM »
Suki Forbes was a HOOT!  If memory serves she was from Baltimore, an old stomping-ground of yours truly--she definitely had that sassy, slightly sleazy Balto edge--can't you just see her performing on "the Block" (for old-timers) in the profession she was in when Nathan first met her?

And you didn't ask, but my personal opinion (ever the maverick!) is that 1795 is the most over-rated of all the DS storylines.  I think it starts out beautifully and builds up until the curse but then slumps dreadfully after the death of a certain pivotal character.  I find the Vicki's trial sequences and Vicki/Peter romance to be among the most snooze-worthy moments in DS history.

That said, the storyline does boast some of DS' finest moments, but in my opinion that could be said of all the other storylines as well.

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: IE Bug Invites Phishing Attacks
« on: June 15, 2004, 11:13:44 PM »
"Phishing"??? How on earth do the technogeeks come up with this stuff?  And how do they get everyone to start using it?

I mean, the band just announced they were breaking up.

If there's such a thing as "Mariah Careying" on the computer, I really don't want to find out about it.

G.

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That's one of my favorite photos of Herself back in her salad days.

Beautiful work!

G.

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Current Talk '19 I / Re: WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: June 15, 2004, 04:10:09 PM »
Do you think they gave it any more than a very cursory glance?  My understanding was that by the time the pilot had been delivered, the WB suits had already decided upon a programmatic shift away from drama and into "reality" series programming.

I think "extreme myopia" is a highly charitable description of the typical H'wood studio exec's mental abilities.  C'mon, where's my "Grosse Point" DVD release???

As for the future of the pilot, perhaps MPI can release it one day with a "Making of" featurette on a single disc.  I can see it selling big in the market they've built for the episode releases.

G.

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Current Talk '19 I / Re: WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: June 14, 2004, 10:35:50 PM »
This is really weird. A friend of mine rang this morning and ask if I'd heard about TNWBDS.  I told him his news was old and outdated. He said he'd read about the show in a new issue of Star magazine (the tabloid) he purchased in the supermarket late last week.

I can only assume they got hold of a really old news release somewhere or other...

G.

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Robservations / Re: Robservations 8/29/02 - #626/627 - Murder!
« on: June 14, 2004, 09:56:13 PM »
Wow, what a *hot* photo of a wet and wild wolfboy here.

CAN'T GET ENUF OF MY CHRIS-MAN!!!!!! YUMMMMEEEEE!

Some really gorgeous snapshots of the Divine Dr. Julia Hoffman, too... for the Hall-o-holics not-so-anonymous amongst us... Remember, Her fans are LEGION!

G.

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Lime green, eh? Well, that makes sense, since it is THE Dark Shadows color!

Still looks like a color of pink I would normally describe with a word that starts with baby, followed by a "sh" and ending in "t" but would be impolite to write here.

A blind friend of mine explained my color blindness to me.  I do actually see colors, but I am missing these things called "cones" in my eyes that allow me to distinguish certain colors.  Shades of grey and green are among the problem colors for me.

Lucky thing I never went into art criticism, isn't it?

G.

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I do think it's slightly hysterical that the "NEWS" in the 4th band along the top of the frame is written with letters that are a slightly darker version of the background color (something I'd call sick salmon--I'm color blind so who knows what it *really* is), which makes the text all but illegible--sounds like an administrator's clever commentary upon the new software.

G.

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