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I don't think these photos were ever used in the mag.  That may by why they're available in their online archive now.  I tried really hard to find a photo, any photo, of Grayson on set during the NotI shoot in the blitz of pubs back in 1963-64.  I made multiple library trips and looked at anything I could find in all the major mags of the day and there was never any sign of her, anywhere.  She was referred to in passing here and there in some of the articles (most memorably in a quote from Burton that obviously referred to her--it irked me that the journo described her as "venerable" when she was only 41 years old!).  It's poetic justice that she won the lone Oscar nom from the film since she was pretty much treated as a non-entity in the press coverage.

There's a big splashy article about the torrid Taylor-Burton romance in the current Vanity Fair (with brief mentions of their time in PV on the NotI shoot).  The reporter says that Burton was nominated for an "Oscar" 9 times but never awarded one.  It's clear that actual acting talent has very little to do with taking home one of those glittery little statuettes.

G.

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Current Talk '19 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: June 28, 2010, 06:17:05 AM »
Yeah, it seems clear from the number of quotes on that calendar that there was at least one other version of the screenplay that the rest of us haven't seen.  Hopefully Pierson will make it all available to Darren for the DVD release.  (Just looking back at the start of this topic in July '09 and now really wondering whether we're going to see the release of the films this Oct. as initially stated.)

G.

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Current Talk '19 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: June 28, 2010, 05:38:01 AM »
A second relay of viewing notes from the final reel:

Old Barnabas really is one of the most fabulous ghouls of the silver age of horror (the Sixties/Seventies period, which pretty much ends with Texas Chainsaw Massacre and the takeover of the genre by splatter nasties).  Frid's body movements in this role are so subtle, and add to the menace, as does Arthur Ornitz's camerawork.  There are signs here of DC's love of excess starting to take over, which really kicks in once we get to Lockwood Matthews.

I'm stunned at what the art director was permitted to do at Lockwood.  I mean, he dragged what seems to be an early 19th century cannon into the drawing room!  It all looks as if days, if not weeks, must have been required for cleanup.  But the results look superb on screen.  What I recall so well was being completely confused at this point in the story as to where we were.  They needed at least a snippet of dialogue about their having been an abandoned monastery on the island.  There's only a brief establishing shot of the house, with an ominous sting on the soundtrack.  I had no idea what that house was or why Barnabas et al had retreated there, on my first viewing.

Josette's wedding dress always looks more Spanish than French to me.  I love how her dreamlike descent to the waiting Barnabs is filmed.  And his line, when he takes her hand and speaks of how long he has waited for her, is a very poignant moment.  It would have helped a lot if the character had been allowed any time to speak about his motives, or express remorse for some of his obviously disastrous temper tantrums (the whole Carolyn thing--when you think about it, Barn seems to have been acting out of pure headstrong impulse with no consideration at all for consequences).

My biggest complaint about the big showdown is the same now as it was forty years ago.  That overdone use of echo chamber FX and the Sam Peckinpah slo-mo thing makes this sequence so very cheesy.  The one element that I thought gave it an air of tragedy was the beautiful "lament for Barnabas" composed by Cobert, I think originally for this scene (and re-used subsequently in the Jack Palance Dracula and I think a number of other DC projects).  Even as a 12 year old I was very disappointed in the cheesiness of how the climax was filmed and edited.  I can understand why Frid felt he had been doing "pornography" once the project had been completed--and why he strenuously refused to do a sequel.

I had missed one final flourish of FX at the very end of the credits roll.  When the bat flies up, there's actually a camera trick where Barn's corpse disappears, leaving only the mist weaving around the coffin.

It's really too bad that the tag scene, included in the novelization, wasn't filmed.  It would have helped give more of an air of resolution to the proceedings.   That feels very badly needed in the wake of how the picture wound up ending in the final cut.

G.

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Current Talk '19 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: June 28, 2010, 04:59:33 AM »
Some notes from my first viewing of the final reel in maybe fifteen years:

Julia, who is supposed to have rushed from the Old House to Collinwood after administering Barnabas' final "treatment," manages to change dresses along the way.  Just another trick up the sleeve of a physician with a specialisation in vampirism?

I had completely forgotten the scenes of Stokes visiting the deserted Old House.  It looks as if these may have been filmed around the same time as the sequences early in the picture when Maggie and David are there.  Although barely half a day has elapsed since the departure of Barnabas and Willie, the house is again in ruins, with masses of dead leaves lying around the foyer and the front door standing up. I did find this an effectively macabre touch even though it seemed strange that the cobwebs had grown back so quickly.

Vampire Stokes has a really scary, crazy laugh when he attacks Jeff.  The shot of the dead Stokes (lying in what must have been freezingly cold waterl) should have been cut a few seconds earlier because we see his hand move.  Nice attention to detail, DC.

More viewing notes to come...

G.

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Current Talk '19 I / Re: A New Slideshow Is Coming
« on: June 28, 2010, 03:09:35 AM »
i'm delighted to see that the slide shows are continuing!  It was delightful to log on and see a capture of Vicki as she contemplates the beginning of her journey.

Happy 44th Birthday, DS!

G.

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Don Briscoe played Donald, the weekend guest and close friend of the central protagonist, Michael.

G.

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Wow, Charles!  That second shot is KILLER!

There can be no doubt who the STAR of that film was!

Thanks so much!

G.

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Current Talk '10 I / Re: is cassandra chic???
« on: June 24, 2010, 08:30:42 PM »
Wow.  It's like Cassandra meets Miss Gulch (with the mutton-chop sleeves, or whatever they're called).

Some of Cassandra's clothing WAS chic in the Summer of 1968.  That lemon yellow coat-dress, or the sleeveless blue mini come to mind.  I thought the morning frock she wore for the scene where Barnabas offered to take her back if she would stop the Dream Curse (and free Vicki) was gorgeous.  Then, there are horrors such as the purple butterfly caftan, which of course I secretly adore... That one looked as if it came into the world as an attempt at a Peter Max ripoff gone horribly awry.

Wigs were chic in 1968.  I remember my Mother and my Aunt going wig shopping around that time.  They both showed up at a number of parties wearing these huge frosted pelts on their heads.  Mom gets really uncomfortable now whenever I bring this up.

Part of the idea behind the popularity of wigs may have been women who were trying to give their hair a rest from some of the unbelievably corrosive products in use back then.  I remember my mother complaining about the health of her hair.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '10 I / Re: RIP SOAP Net
« on: June 23, 2010, 11:36:04 PM »
There's a scene with Tony George in this 1981 OLTL clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nBqwxjLhjs&feature=related

And Grayson can be spotted briefly a couple of times (in a fabou black turban accessorized with a divine white scarf) in this flashback to when Asa Buchanan faked his own death:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk4LQ054uSc

The guy who posted the first clip apparently has a lot of early 1980s OLTL ... so who knows...

G.

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Current Talk '10 I / Re: Humbert Allen Astredo Interviews
« on: June 23, 2010, 04:52:24 PM »
There was a magazine interview of him done around 1968 which carried the epic title, "Get hip to the Warlock." 

At some point in one of the iterations of this list, somebody did post a scan of it, but I don't think it's available anymore.  It wasn't all that revealing as I recall, but was a bit of fun from the old days.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '10 I / Re: Vince O'Brien passes away
« on: June 23, 2010, 12:23:26 AM »
What an eerie mood.  It's incredible to think that Sy Tomashoff and his assistants did all that work for a set that was only seen for one brief moment on the show.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '10 I / Re: Vince O'Brien passes away
« on: June 22, 2010, 10:28:03 PM »
Thanks, MB.  That scene is right out of Rod Serling's Twilight Zone terrain...

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '10 I / Re: Vince O'Brien passes away
« on: June 22, 2010, 09:34:51 PM »
Thanks MB for that beautiful capture.  I imagine Vince and Conard both bellying up to the bar in that great Blue Whale in the sky (forgive hackneyed imagery, my brain is wilted toast today).

And thanks Midnite for checking on Vince's episodes.  I thought he had played Riley.  Isn't he in what recently became one of my all time favorite scenes in the series, that weird-ass little vignette played in the Phoenix morgue?  I remember the scene yet am uncertain whether Vince was on hand for it.  Pathetic to see the mind disintegrate into a wispy bit of swiss cheese.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '10 I / Re: Vince O'Brien passes away
« on: June 22, 2010, 04:24:47 PM »
Very sad.  Even though I think he was only in a few episodes (maybe only 2 or 3???), something about Vince O'Brien's presence was solidly memorable in the chimerical role of Sheriff Patterson.

Didn't he appear in another role on the series as well?

G.

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Current Talk '19 I / Re: Another New Slideshow
« on: June 22, 2010, 04:43:44 AM »
Gosh, we leaped dramatically forward today, didn't we?  I'd hoped for at least a glimpse of Vampire Stokes.  He must really have been famished to want to make a meal out of something as unsavory as Jeff.

Today's capture reminds me that the rooms at Lockwood Matthews were my favorites in terms of set decoration.  Again, it's been a really long time since I last saw these scenes, but this snapshot shows off Maggie's boudoir as a Goth chick's idea of Heaven (or would that be Hell? heh, heh).  Lovely choice, MB.

G.

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