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Current Talk '24 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 31, 2004, 08:50:44 PM »
How amusing, Criseyde!

Sounds as if those six episodes (or however many have been commissioned) will be heavily recycling old storylines from the original series.

Just out of curiosity, did the Reuters story carry anything about storylines for Julia and Liz?  (One of my peeves about the 1991 effort was that Liz had NO storylines AT ALL.)

Steve

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I somehow forgot about The Addams Family (the original mid Sixties series with Carolyn Jones and John Astin).  I loved this before DS came on the scene and still love it to this day. That's one series I really wish would come out on DVD.

"Certain Shadows on the Wall" originally aired in late December 1970.  The filming actually happened during the Summer, in August I think.  Grayson had to tape an episode of DS the day she flew back from "the Coast" on an early a.m. redeye flight.  I'm convinced the wig she wore as Carlotta in NoDS was the same one she was given for her role on Night Gallery--she was told it had belonged to Rita Hayworth.

Unforgiveably, Grayson and Agnes have NO SCENES AT ALL together in this episode.  I do think that when the casting had been completed, Serling could have given them even a short scene together. Grayson does have several scenes with Rachel Roberts, an actress who was married to Rex Harrison and had a superb role in Peter Weir's cult classic, Picnic at Hanging Rock.

I'm sure that's far more than you wanted to know about Grayson's appearance on Night Gallery...

a certified Halloholic,

Gothick

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I / Re:Other Favorite TV Shows
« on: March 29, 2004, 11:00:26 PM »
Oh yeah, I also love Forever Knight, especially the first two years--that one also went downhill drastically in year 3.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I / Re:Other Favorite TV Shows
« on: March 29, 2004, 10:46:57 PM »
Well, I love Strange Paradise, and I've seen nearly every episode, and so has a friend of mine.  So--we're out here!

The only post Seventies supernatural series I have enjoyed was Poltergeist: the Legacy.  Helen Shaver played a very intense psychologist with a sense of style and elan that I found worthy of Grayson Hall.  Derek de Lint had a sense of presence and nonverbal intensity reminiscent of Jonathan Frid, and Martin Cummins was a brooding Briscoe-licious hunk.  Robbi Chong was in it as well and was excellent, and so was Patrick Fitzgerald as a troubled priest.  After the second season it really slithered downhill fast, but the actors kept it fun to watch.

I like Boris Karloff's Thriller but it hasn't surfaced in over a decade.  I also liked Rod Serling's Night Gallery.  Fascinating scripts and beautiful casting.  Another one that was uneven but sometimes really quite good was the Sixth Sense, starring Gary Collins as a parapsychologist.  Both the series and the star seem to have vanished into a black hole.  It aired in the late Sixties and early Seventies.

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:Shadows of the Vampire
« on: March 29, 2004, 08:28:26 PM »
Well, I agree with Jonathan Frid on this one. hoDS would have benefited from a lot more atmosphere and character development, and a lot less red stuff running out of every orifice onscreen.

As I've said before, as my sister and I were taking our seats in the theatre back in the Summer of 1970 when we saw the movie, I heard one guy ask his friend what he thought of it, and the latter summed the whole thing up with terse eloquence:  "lotsa teeth, lotsa blood."  Maybe that level of gratuitous violence helped make it a hit for MGM, but I have read that hoDS and the resulting parental protests led to a lot of ABC affiliates around the US dropping the series.

I read an interview that Mr. Frid gave in Baltimore's City Paper in the 1980s or 1990s, I believe, in which he characterized the violence in hoDS as pornographic (or words to that effect), and said that the "realism" of the movie robbed the story of its fantastic qualities that had made it so special in the first place.

I also have an interview with Grayson Hall from 1973 in which she says that Jonathan did not want to play a vampire any longer.  I wondered whether he had it written into his contract that he would not have to do any further fanging scenes on the show since there were none after the Roxanne storyline in 1840.

In my opinion, the hoDS director's preference for sensationalism over storytelling was also what ruined the 1991 Dark Shadows series, particularly as it went on in the later episodes.

G.

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David, that movie was already released out here in the East Coast a few weeks ago.  I saw it with my movie buddy.  It's kind of a mixed bag--some good strong performances (mainly from the two protagonists, and Jackie Bisset has a great supporting role as a world-weary restaurant owner), good camerawork, and an epically dreadful script--a lot of the speeches sound as if cribbed from Shirley Maclaine's self-help books of the 70s and 80s.

It does present a harrowing staging of a Mormon "treatment center" for gay children.  Pretty strong stuff.

Gordon-Leavitt certainly has grown up since his work on Dark Shadows and that other show.  His hair is short now.  He only has one good scene in this movie, but he does a wonderful job with it.  I hope he continues to find work on a par with his abilities.

cheers, Steve

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Current Talk '24 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 27, 2004, 12:44:04 AM »
Hi Sweetie,

In the script posted on the "Barnabas Undead" site, Ang [spoiler]pops up shortly after Barn leaves his coffin in episode 1.  She has a couple of scenes thereafter where she pops up and makes trouble.[/spoiler] I alas don't recall very much--it really seemed very sophomoric stuff to me.

FWIW, the treatment of the character seemed to owe something to another popular WB series, Charmed.  Forgive me if once again I seem "negative."  Pollyanna ain't my middle name.

xo la Tuftress

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You love to torture me, don't you?

Seriously, thanx to Criseyde for posting this link.  I enjoyed the lovely new photos of Nancy.  I hope I can attend her new show this Summer at the Festival.

G.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re:WB ORDERS FILMING OF NEW DS PILOT
« on: March 26, 2004, 09:51:14 PM »
Oh God. Are you saying that WAS the real pilot script they had on there?

That thing read like an old MAD Magazine skit on Dark Shadows. not one of their better skits, either.

I guess time will tell as regards the New WB Dark Shadows.

G.

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That's supposed to be Angelique?  Who is the artist--the guy who used to do those awful Gold Key comic books?

They could have at least gotten the colors on her dress right.  I suppose they're following a specific color scheme for the whole series.

Feeling better every day that MPI isn't doing a Julia bobblehead,

Steve

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Robservations / Re:Robservations 7/19/02 - #568/569 - Sexy Nibbles
« on: March 25, 2004, 04:23:46 PM »
Ooh baby!  I know most folks don't care for the heavy use of eyeliner on DS, but Julia and Tom look absolutely combustible here, and the makeup really helps.

It gives the actors the look of heroes in one of those tragic sex dramas of the early 1930s, before the RC church invoked the Hays code and the movie moguls made all the men put their shirts back on (but then Errol came in and the shirts started flying off again, hooray hooray).

Julia looks particularly sultry in her closeup paired with Nicholas, and I love Tom's eee-vil grin.  why do I suspect that Julia's neck wasn't the *only* thing he had on his mind to take a bite of???

Great closeups of Clarice and Joan, too.

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:The Creamy Goodness of Tom Jennings
« on: March 25, 2004, 04:18:10 PM »
For a Grayson fan, Satan in High Heels is a *must*.  I think Pepe may be my all time favorite Grayson performance.  The script isn't Shakespeare but our gal gets some great one liners, and some marvelous world-weary expressions.  One of my favorites is when the eponymous heroine is commending Pepe (Grayson's character) upon her cooking and G says something about her housekeeper usually comes in and does the cooking but today's her day off.

Stacey:  "She's better than you?"
Pepe: *beat, lowers eyes, looks up, smiles provocatively* ... In the kitchen.

There used to be a site that had a clip from the movie available for free download. And our very own Claude North designed a gorgeous page with wonderful photos of Grayson in this.  I'll see if I can find the URL.

G.

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Boy, Our Lad Briscoe really threw his all into Tom's Last Stand!  Love those fanging snapshots!

Last night I was re-watching one of my favorite movies, Roman Polanski's The Fearless Vampire Killers (1967), and I had to wonder whether Don Briscoe ever saw it.  Ferdy Mayne uses a tongue-twixt-teeth technique a couple of times that is somewhat reminscent of Our Don's.  I don't think Don did "the tongue thing" until [spoiler]Tom's return visit on the series.[/spoiler]

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Hi Gerard, gosh, I hope for your sake, Roger Davis *doesn't* crash your wedding.

If he does, you can bet on the "bizarre" and "terror" aspects being maxed out.  Especially if anyone is unfortunate enough to get between RD and Camera One!  lol!

G.

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Current Talk '04 I / Re:The Creamy Goodness of Tom Jennings
« on: March 23, 2004, 04:10:46 PM »
Interesting, Sandor, that you mention Mrs Robinson and The Graduate.  In a press interview Grayson did shortly before the 1965 Oscars, she mentioned that Mike Nichols had contacted her about a part in the Graduate.  I think she would have made a FABULOUS Mrs. Robinson.

Don't get me wrong--I think Bancroft did a fabou job in the role, but of course I would crawl over broken glass in a darkened alleyway through South Boston to see Grayson in that part!

Gothick
Certified Member of Hall-o-holics Anonymous

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