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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Worst Hair on DS?
« on: May 30, 2003, 04:25:53 PM »
I'm bummed that nobody has mentioned my honey, Buzz Hackett, here.  How could you neglect that majestic mess o' leather and hairgrease?  Oh, how quickly they forget.

Buzz's mop looks as if he attempted to wash it in beer, failed to rinse properly, and then dumped half a tube of Brylcreem in it and pushed the SPIN button.

Still, he's all man, and all mine!

Vrooming away in a cloud of bikerdust,

Goth

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Cheap insufferable pig day
« on: May 30, 2003, 03:01:54 PM »
I'm dying here... THANK YOU MB for adding the perfect dollop of sardonic humor to an otherwise wretched Friday!

I did have the show on for a bit this a.m. and got to hear Roger's tirade on the phone.  TOO delicious!

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '03 I / Re:Prof. Stokes' "Flat"
« on: May 29, 2003, 09:17:37 PM »
Well, I adore Sian Phillips. so that's great news.  I must confess I was a little surprised that anyone in H'wood would be adapting a Dodie Smith novel.  It is the town, after all, where they were all trying to get Jane Austen on their cell phones a few years back, and Demi Moore commented that changing the plot, characters, and ending of the Scarlet Letter did not matter because "nobody ever read that old book anyway."

I missed Daniel Deronda, boo hoo, but heard great things about it.  Is anybody else taping The Wyvern Mysteries tonight, adapted from the Sheridan LeFanu novel?  I just love Sheridan LeFanu, a writer who deserves to be remembered for more than Carmilla.

Gothick

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Night of the Bobbleheads
« on: May 29, 2003, 09:08:10 PM »
It'll take more than Bobble-heads to get this curmudgeonly Yankee to sign up for the DVD club.  I'd hoped for at least a 15 percent discount.  Instead all we are being offered is more schlock to clutter up our shelves.  Bleah.

As for the Barnabas Bobble-head, I shrieked as I was convinced I had just seen Sky Rumson as a vampire!

Or maybe it was Captain Scarlet with fangs???

I hope there are no plans for a Julia Bobble-head.  I may have to summon Hoffman to bring me the black pins!

Gothick

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Holidays for Collinsport
« on: May 29, 2003, 07:16:43 PM »
I think the budget had a lot to do with that lack of celebrating.  The other thing was probably that they wanted what happened on the show to be in this bubble that was outside of any real time or place, despite occasional references to reality, such as people dropping in from NYC, Boston, or Augusta (or London!). Jonathan Frid mentioned in an interview once that he thought this timelessness was one of the show's strengths.  And it helped keep you from wondering why their Xmas decorations were so tawdry and cheap looking... just think of that "glamorous" gold lame bag Liz was wielding when she was thinking of shooting Julia!

I personally like it that nothing was ever celebrated on DS, but I am an odd duck, to understate things.  It just gives the show a quality that sets it apart from other TV series.

It is very sad about the weddings, though, especially Carolyn's.

Gothick

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:Leviathan....the beginning of the end?
« on: May 29, 2003, 07:10:13 PM »
1970 PT wins my nomination for the most uneven of all the storylines.  I thought it coupled some of the series' best moments with some real duds.  I absolutely loved what they gave Thayer, Grayson, and Louis to do.  I had mixed feelings about Lara's work on the storyline but some of it was really excellent, and darling Hannah Stokes was a hoot to watch (Paula Laurence--is that the name of the actress?).  Nancy and Johnny made a great pair, too, though their screen time was greatly diminished due to various film involvements.

[spoiler]For me the biggest stumbling block was Quentin and Maggie.  They were both such dreadful people, Quentin especially, but Maggie wasn't much better.  And this made Barnabas' obsession with helping them very problematic for the viewer.  There is even a scene where Julia asks Barnabas why on Earth he wants to help the PT Maggie and he gives her the usual runaround in response.  I always wonder whether that wasn't included due to fan mail asking that very question.  In those days, producers of shows actually cared what the fans thought about a given character or storyline, which is why the Leviathan story wound up being so abbreviated--because of the negative mail.[/spoiler]

With all this said, I've watched certain weeks of PT 1970 more frequently than many other periods, just because the theatricality of the premise worked so well for the actors.  There really isn't anyone in the group for the audience to identify with though, which is problematic if you approach it as a traditional narrative.

Gothick

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Luciaphil, these are hysterical, as always!  I remember last time we had Leviathan you simply threw up your hands in disgust, so it's great fun to see you have a swipe at these shows.

Your comment about Mrs. Johnson having the cleaning job from Hell (literally) next day had me stifling screams!  but no heavy breathing, I assure you.

It would have made it a lot more interesting if Nicholas had decided that Jeb was a loser and set out to destroy him from the moment of his arrival on the scene.  It more than strains credulity that Nicholas attempted to salvage Jeb despite his relentlessly bratty behavior. But then, look at how long Nicholas was convinced that Adam was going to be the Father of the new Master Race.

Makes one think that Nicholas himself was not so bright as he liked people to think, doesn't it?

Gothick

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Current Talk '03 I / The Ice B*tch and the Lovelorn Lad
« on: May 28, 2003, 11:14:34 PM »
Today's shows had more great scenes.  I've always loved that little exchange between Willie and Liz in the Collinwood Foyer.  Liz is at her iciest (I was surprised that Willie wasn't chipping frost off his face after he beat a hasty retreat).  Karlen played Willie's reactions with such honest, beautiful realism.  Between them, the actors created an amazing little gem out of what could have been just a standard scene.

I also loved the exchanges between Willie and Barnabas in episode #2.  Even though their putative "great friendship" violates the established history between the two, the actors played the scene with a lot of depth.  I've noticed that Karlen often brought out the best in Frid.  He played his scenes today with beautiful skill and restraint, I thought.

I just love the moment when Willie is telling Barnabas how sorry he is to be deserting him in his hour of need, and he pouts up his lips in the cutest way, like a doting father turning down his favorite child's request for ice cream.  So sweet.  Karlen has the most wonderfully expressive face!  Makes me want to send him a big splashy birthday card, thanking him for making my day again today.

Oh, and Grayson was FABULOUS, of course, but you already knew that.

I'm sure the TLATKLS brigade appreciated how charming Katie looked in her boudoir ensemble.

Gothick

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Calendar Events / Announcements '03 I / Re:Dark Shadows Reloaded
« on: May 28, 2003, 09:27:09 PM »
I love Brides of Dracula, and that's nice that the mall kids are getting exposure to something of that quality.  Martita Hunt was simply fabulous in that film, and so was the otherwise unknown David Peel.

Another great one from that period that Hammer did was Kiss of the Vampire.  I've wondered since seeing it whether Malcolm Marmorstein might have seen it and gotten the idea of Josette's music box luring Barnabas' victim to him from the way the music is used by the vampires in this movie.  It is such a haunting, beautiful setpiece.

I'm afraid Keanu Reeves makes me hurl, so I will not be seeing this.  He was good in My Own Private Idaho, of course.  It's too bad it couldn't have been him in the Viper Room that night instead of River Phoenix.

Heaving sigh of *artistic* frustration,

Gothick

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Hi DoomBuggy, I'm surprised that the 25th anniversary tape was yanked as quickly as you say. My impression was that it was available for years before they finally deleted it.  I do remember when the hoo-ha broke out over the fact that Mr. Frid had apparently not signed anything permitting the use of the Telltale Heart performance (which is excellent, and rates as the only appearance by him in a visual recorded medium since that Oliver Stone thing).

I'll have to get it out and watch it again.

Gothick

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Yeah, baby, Jeb and his personal Naga are simply shag-a-delic!

Jeb was clearly DS's version of the typical hipster-gone-bad character that appeared on so many Sixties shows.  I'm sure that had a lot to do with his appeal back in the day.

Jeb's dialogue sounds even more dated than Buzz Hackett's, sometimes.  I still remember this scene where he's discussing Maggie with Barnabas and gets this sudden gleam in his eyes and crows, "You DIG her, man!"  Yeah, dude.

Gothick

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Thanks, Stuart, for explaining about the revision of the book.  That's good to know.

I'm very sorry to hear about Craig's health problems.  I had heard something about him being hospitalized last year, but don't recall any details.  I will keep him in my healing thoughts and prayers.

Steve

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Current Talk '03 I / Re:A Serious Laugh
« on: May 27, 2003, 10:14:39 PM »
Hi Cassandra, I agree with you; in fact, in my opinion THIS is the single worst "special" effect in the entire history of DS.  It makes you wonder whether they were thinking of "special" effects in the same sense as "special" education.

The convolutions that resulted from Dennis Patrick's abrupt departure to make a movie halfway through this storyline have a lot to do with the serious flopping of the later Leviathan storyline.  I believe that Paul's ghost was intended to play a big part in Jeb's problems.  Neither of the spectral solutions for which they opted succeeded; in fact, the second one gives that "Mr. Sardoniplatypus" photo a run for its money in the sublime awfulness department.

Let's face it, there were times when DS got SERIOUSLY cheesy.  I guess I love it all the more for those moments when they just went OUT there, come hell or high water.

Gothick

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Current Talk '03 I / At the risk of sounding BA-NAHHLLL
« on: May 27, 2003, 09:31:33 PM »
Well, I had the show on this a.m., beeswing-eyed after my delirious, rained-out weekend in the Vermont mountains (thank the Gods Maria von Trapp did not appear over the hills coloraturing about the Sound of Music, for if she had done, I would have had to brain her with my earthenware phallus, the one with the purple mardi-gras bead choker).  Who should come waltzing in but Nicholas Blair, paying upon a visit upon his dear, OLD, down-on-her-luck-again, OLD buddy, Mrs. Angelique Rumson.  PRICELESS!  see, stuff like this is what always makes me think the Leviathans was the best period in the show's history--certainly the best of all the present-time arcs.  Scenes like this are incredibly rich because of how well writers and actors were able to make use of two years or more of existing subtext.

I do love the use Angelique makes of her little keepsake from Boston.  (Makes note to self--DON'T order any cute little tchotchkes from the Franklin Mint as a hostess gift for Mrs. Rumson's next kaffeeklatsch on Little Windward Island.)

Did anybody else notice that Sky's "burning poker" got a LOT bigger in episode 2 than it had been in episode one.  Hmmm, somehow I always had the feeling that Sky's poker got bigger the longer he gripped it.  Gripped it firmly and with emotion.  Hey, Sky, can I hold that poker for you?  Need me to help you out with that, dude?  Hmmmmmm....

Also glimpsed Camera 2 in the mirror when Sky and Ang were kissing in episode 1.  Not really a very serious blooper since you would hardly have noticed it unless you'd watched the episode several times, as I have done.

Another favorite moment of mine (and, I believe, the MB's as well) is coming up, when Julia finds out about Barn's latest "talk" with Megan.  Can't wait!

Gothick

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That's a great review.  I have a copy of the original printing, in which the photos were ruined by the printer.

It sounds as if Craig may have added more material since then, and, hopefully, made some corrections.

I've made a note to get hold of this new edition soon!

Gothick

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