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Current Talk '06 II / Re: DS Revival Series -- Sigh
« on: July 12, 2006, 04:52:46 PM »
Don't faint, anyone, but I am about to defend Lysette Anthony.

Having enjoyed Anthony's work in a number of UK productions, I don't think it's fair to judge her by the ghastly travesty of her work on the DS 1991 series.  I'm not sure whether it was miscasting so much as poor direction.  That accent alone is awfully hard to get past.  It may have been miscasting, but I think Lysette would have surprised people by how good she would have been as Laura in season 2 (I think the plan was for her to return as Laura--I know there is a book where they published the notes for the projected second season).  Without the crap fake-French accent and with hopefully better direction, I think she would have brought a smolderingly sinister quality to the part.

Agree, IN SPADES, about the OTT vampire makeup.  That stuff has become as over-used as the blacked-out eye effect for Witches casting spells on TV.  Those blacked-out eyes always make me think of this terrible film Robert Fuest directed in the 1970s, The Devil's Rain.  Ernie Borgnine plays Asmodeus.  Need I say more??

Penny Dreadful, I mostly agree with your assessment of the acting on that 1991 show.  I do think Julianna McCarthy deserves high marks for her work as Mrs J and Abigail.  She was really solid in her work for the show (to echo what Alexandra said about the original Mrs J--the Divine Clarice Blackburn!).

G.

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What fun!  At first I thought he was going to say "Marie Wallace" when he was talking about the actress who helped him!

Thanks for sharing,

G.

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Happy Birthday DS to DA!

May you continue to thrive in your art and life.

Steve

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Golly, what's the scoop on the DS music CD set?

I already have 7 or 8 CDs of DS music, but why not get more??

G.

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Claude, darling, you're a genius!  but then, we already knew that...

Gang, there's a NEW Neely O'Hara video available on the site!

I have no idea what "fievels" are but I STILL found these very funny...

AND, you chose two of my favorite 1967 Julia scenes!  The Man and a woman one is a particular fave of mine, as I'm sure you know.  I wish the dear Doctor had used that cigarette holder more frequently.  I still think it was Grayson's old prop from Satan in High Heels!

G.

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Current Talk '06 II / Re: Period Costuming in Dark Shadows
« on: July 07, 2006, 03:15:56 PM »
What a great thread!  thanks to Pansity for getting it going.

I love all the historical costumes on the show, but I disagree that they were anywhere near accurate in the period.  The dresses worn by Naomi and the Countess are MID 18th century--1760s at best, I believe.  I read somewhere that the costumes for 1795 came to the production from a play or film for which they had originally been made. I've often wondered whether the availability of those costumes had anything to do with the date switch in the "origins of Barnabas" storyline from the original ca. 1837 date to the 1790s.  I'm by no means an authority, but the costumes for Joshua, Barnabas, Forbes and Jeremiah all look more Revolutionary War than Federalist to my untrained eye.  Anybody have a URL handy for men's clothing of the mid 1790s?  The arrival of Napoleon on the scene seems to have brought a lot of innovations in its wake--in fashion and elsewhere, although when I was reading Dangerous Liaisons I remember the notes saying that some years before '89 the women's clothes had already been streamlined and the character of the Marquise was Laclos's comment upon proto-feminist thought in the 1780s.

I do think Angelique's clothes in 1795 are more correct--for a lady of middling class but not for a servant girl.  The mob cap is a nice touch, of course.

The women's clothes for the 1897 serial seem a little nearer the mark to me, but a friend told me that the men's clothing (Quentin, Edward, et al.) was more 1870s than 1890s.  Carl's suits do look like old photographs I have seen of 1890s men's holiday wear--appropriate for a gentleman of (aspiring) leisure.

I'm not sure that people in early modern society had all that many changes of clothing.  I've heard Americans who travel comment that people of good background in, say, Italy, tend to have three outfits--the work outfit, the relaxing-at-home outfit, and the party outfit.  They'll accessorise those outfits with changes of tie, scarf, gloves, whatever.  The idea of a closet packed with 40 different outfits is an innovation of US consumerism of the 1950s and 60s.

Just a few thoughts from me on this topic...

G.

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The only name that piques my interest in this line-up is Sybil Danning.  I thought she was a hoot in the Howling II!

However, her promotional photo on the site looks as if it is close to 25 years old.  Ah well.

Could be a fun event!

G.

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The answer to this question is complicated for Ode to Angelique.  An arrangement of the tune plays as a cue for the early glimpses of life in the Parallel Time room in episodes that aired in February of 1970.  In March we first heard the Bruno Hess version on a phonograph record that Hoffman tricked Maggie into purchasing for Daniel.  Shortly thereafter, we hear Bruno playing it (for the first of MANY occasions) on the piano in the cottage.

As for Quentin's theme, I believe it was first heard playing from Quentin's gramophone in December of '68.

Hopefully others can give you specific day/month/year dates and episode numbers.

Best, Steve

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Big congrats!  Now for a little luxury.  You know you've EARNED it, darling!

G.

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I can never remember whether there were TWO board games, one called Barnabas Collins and one called Dark Shadows, or whether they were just different packagings of the same games.

The story about the fangs basically is that kids would run riot through the house "fanging"one another, then take out the fangs and run off to watch DS... their irate Moms would grab those icky fangs off the kitchen counter where they had been unwisely parked and sweep them right into the bin.  Poof!  no more fangs.

Best, G.

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For anybody out there who hasn't seen it, here is an interview with Dan Ross himself, conducted by Craig Hamrick:

http://www.darkshadowsonline.com/victoria/dan_ross.html

Surely there must be a site that has scans of all those gorgeously lurid covers?  The covers were the best thing about the books.

G.

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Current Talk '06 I / Re: DVD Volume 26
« on: July 03, 2006, 10:13:02 PM »
Midnite, many thanks for sharing this exciting news!

If the Bloopers disc does indeed make the targeted November release date, it will be in time to be a ready candidate for every fan's holidaze dream stocking-stuffer!

Thanks again, G.

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Thinking it over, I'm pretty sure that Cassandra is included in a group shot in the MPI 1990s color cards.  I don't much care for those cards, but friends were nice enough to club together to buy them as a gift for me one year way back when.  There are a couple of nice cards in that set but, for the most part, I find the pictures so tiny that in some cases, with the cheaply printed color overlay, you don't even have any idea what you're looking at it unless you've already seen the episode in question.

MB, thanks for the reminiscence about the Viewmaster reels.  I did not realize that they did not even come out until 1970.

For a loooonnnnggg time, looking at those reels was my one way of keeping my DS memories fresh.  The reels disappeared around the same time as my stash of DS related mags.

Best, G.

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Hi Penny Dreadful,

my roommate and I viewed the extra-special Easter Leg last night and we were both in awe of your Witchy way with accessorizing!  I actually learned something, too, as I don't believe I ever saw the "retro orange" DS cards before (although I have this weird half-memory of having read about them, somewhere or other).

My biggest complaint about the various card sets is that none of them, so far as I am aware, included Cassandra.  I now have nearly the entire Cassandra storyline on DVD (minus her lovely cameo appearance in the autumn of '68) and was reviewing the discs over the weekend and just realizing all over again why Cassandra will always be among my own favorite Witches.  (Doesn't stop me from snickering whenever Nicholas rakes her over the coals as "incompetent" and even worse, "amateur"!)

You didn't include the Viewmaster set, my personal favorite DS collectible. Wish I still had mine, with the booklet "in sombre colors" that included a muted, gorgeous portrait of Julia.

Best, Steve

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KLS (lipsynching to Lesley Gore 45 on jukebox): This time it's KATIE's turn to cry, KATIE's turn to cry, ay-ay-ay...

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