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Thanks for letting me know, MB.

I remember a GORGEOUS shot that I've only ever seen at the end of one of the calendars--it was either 1999 or 2000.  It was from the scene where she's in Sarah's bedroom, hovering sadly over her old dolls.

G.

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Fans,

I'm going to be away from Monday through the remainder of next week, probably back in the old saddle as of 31 August.

If there are any exceptional Grayson Hall, Thayer David, or Clarice Blackburn photos in the daily slideshows, please comment on them so I might have a chance of getting to see them if MB posts the images in the comments thread!

Thank you and happy late August (hoping you are not having to deal with the hot soupy sludge we are experiencing here in New England--the tweed and wool preferred at Collinwood would truly prove to be THE DEATH)...

G.

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Grayson Hall's beauty, power and brilliance is burned like a bright enduring brand forever in my heart and soul...

but then, I'm biased.

*wink*

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '09 II / Re: Happy Birthday to CyrusL
« on: August 21, 2009, 05:41:50 PM »
Happy Birthday, Cyrus!

Best wishes,

Gothick

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Those are both excellent choices, Gerard!  Somewhere in one of the interviews, I think Louis Edmonds referred to the first scene as "our very own version of the Little Foxes."  If you've ever seen the Bette Davis film, you'll know what his context was for that observation.

I also love a couple of the scenes between Quentin and Laura--they're both so deliciously venomous with one another.  There's also a quietly hysterical scene where Laura and Minerva Trask are comparing notes on child-rearing.  Just excellent.

G.

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I never know how to react to these top ten lists.  It seems really weird to me that people would be able to make these lists in the first place.  I must be from another planet because I could never put my finger on "the best of the best" and then work my way down from there, especially with DS--it's all so juicy and layered, who can choose?

I personally VASTLY prefer the scene between B & J down in the Collinwood drawing room BEFORE the confrontation in Julia's bedroom.  The two are playing cat and mouse with one another or maybe little cat and big cat and Julia pretty much gets away with murder throughout.  Not only are both actors much more on their respective marks in that drawing room scene, the scene itself is much better shot than the bedroom sequence.

And that scene betwen Willie and Barnabas during Tom Jennings just wasn't very well written or played.  Yeah, it's cool that Barnabas admitted that he does "care for" Julia, but as theater the scene is way below par for the general tone of DS.  YMMV of course and always.

Reading this list makes me realize how strongly people project their own narratives onto the series.  I suppose that's why after all these years we keep watching and talking about it.  It's no longer really about anything that happened on the show--it's much more about the show as a vehicle for our own fantasy lives.

It does seem odd that there are so few KLS and Josette fans online.  In the old zines from the early 90s, I remember endless adverts for "Barnabas and Josette Forever" pillow--heart-shaped, to be scattered over the sofa.  

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: the 1967 cast photo
« on: August 20, 2009, 02:05:41 AM »
The most glaringly obvious answer to the lack of cast photos is that DC and ABC were CHEAP.

Also, once Barnabas came on the scene, the publicity revolved 99 percent around Barnabas, Barnabas, Barnabas--because that was the ONLY reason fans tuned in, right?  *wink*

G.

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Not that I'm into lists or top tens, but out of idle curiosity, what were the top three "all time best" scenes chosen in Jonathan Frid's "Game"?

I view this sort of thing as completely subjective, and my own list would change depending upon what I had been watching lately.  Having Mrs J hand an open-mouthed Maggie Evans a ten cent tip because "you're a nice girl" would definitely be on my top ten list, for example...

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Quentin's Boudoir Eyes (August 6 NoDS capture)
« on: August 19, 2009, 03:49:08 PM »
Last night, while looking for something else, I did find my copy of "Dark Shadows II" with Grayson's notes.  Really quite fascinating.  MB is correct--the words about intercutting the scene of Quentin and Angelique briefly making out together with a shot of Carlotta's face in some sort of sexually excited state are in Grayson's handwriting.  Regardless of what Sam says now, I do wonder whether including this element more explicitly may have been discussed at the time.  On the other hand, I bear in mind Grayson's remarks in a number of interviews, most memorably in the 1982 "Grayson Gathering" tape, about how much more interesting it is for an actress to decide she "has a secret" about a character and to play certain scenes with "the subtext" of that secret in mind.  (In one of the interviews printed in TWODS after her death, GH gives a whole little discourse on the meaning and significance of "subtext" for an actor.  A fan who became a friend of hers reports somewhere that GH would in some cases write out pages and pages of notes for "subtext" in a given role.  I've often wondered what her notes for Julia's subtext--over the years in the TV show--would have spoken about.)

So, my thought at this point is that by and large, a lot of Grayson's notes about Carlotta's role as the physical link that made it possible for Angelique to act as she did in the world of 1971 were probably her own ideas--her "secret" for the character.

One note that surprised me is that in the scene where Carlotta arrives to find that Quentin has just cut her nephew's face open, Grayson describes Carlotta's reaction as having an element of "animal excitement."  I think that Sam and Dan (and Lela, if she was around) must have vetoed Grayson playing the scene that way...

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Casting NoDS
« on: August 19, 2009, 03:41:20 PM »
What a darling!  Teen idol '70! 

His career seems to have gone nowhere, alas.  He also seems to have been on the verge of cracking up in his second scene in the episode...

G.

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Current Talk '09 II / Re: Casting NoDS
« on: August 19, 2009, 12:10:49 AM »
Ray Carlson was sooo adorable... I wish he had been brought back in some sort of supporting role.

Brian Sturdivant was in Diary of a Mad Housewife, an uncredited minor role in a party sequence--but I have yet to catch up with that film.  I could definitely see him playing mad and mod.

G.

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Of course, everybody needs to bear in mind that once the picture is completed, months or years could go by before it is released.

It's happened before--ask fans of Joss Whedon's "Firefly" series about the history of the feature film version, "Serenity."

G.

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That's really too bad about Donna.  Hope she feels better soon.

I would love to see shots of Bewitched Shadows!  Sounds fab.

G.

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The idea of trying to somehow "explain" the time travel in DS really baffles me, when you watch the actual shows and they are so vague about how it all happens.  I thought one of the writers gave his own editorial comment to the time travel element when he had Prof. Stokes tell Jeff Clark "I am not a travel agent for time!"

The I Ching time travelling was inspired by a section in William Seabrook's circa 1940 book on Witchcraft in which he explores the notion of "atavism" and talks about experiments that were made in the 1920s where people used the I Ching in an attempt to "open a door" on the astral plane and do something along the lines of what, today, many New Age people think of as "past life regression."  The instance of the Russian lady who turned into a ravening wolf after she "went through the door" actually did involve the K'o hexagram which was how the time travel was accomplished on DS.  Needless to say, this has no connection to anything documented in the Chinese lore about the I Ching material, nor anything remotely connected with quantum physics.  It does seem to be connected with some early 20th century occultists' theorizing about "atavism" in human psychology (there's a great entry in the early 1970s "encyclopedia of the supernatural," Man, Myth and Magic, on this).

The first instance of time traveling seemed to occur as a result of the ghost of Sarah Collins intervening at a seance.  How this happened was never explained--which I personally thought made it work better as a story.  We never knew how it happened, we just know that it did. 

I think the "Staircase through time" setpiece in the final storylines, which includes a scene where Julia reads a diary entry from the 1840 Quentin in which he theorizes that time and space are one and the same dimension, *may* be something that can somehow be related to modern speculations in quantum physics... but only in a really vague way. 

If you want to give yourself a headache, try reading Warren Oddson's attempt to reconcile how there Barnabas wound up being split into two, with bodies existing in separate time continuums, but without the existing Collinwood continuity being disrupted (I use the term "continuity" here in an extremely loose way).

It's much better, IMO, to just go with the flow and take the stories for what they are--fabulous entertainment!

cheers, G.

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That's very sad about Diana Millay.  I hope that she gets better if it is true that she is "unwell."

It must have not quite seemed like a Festival without Diana ... she is always one of those people who just seems to be everywhere, and was always tremendously outgoing with the fans...

G.

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