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1906
Calendar Events / Announcements '13 I / Re: Next up For Burton/Depp
« on: June 09, 2013, 09:54:12 PM »
The Phibes films are favorites of mine. I first saw them on "CBS Late Movie" airings so there were cuts.  I know a lot of fans diss the sequel (and Vincent Price himself was very angry about it) but there are several elements in it I love, including VP's "mod" styled wig and the high Art Deco Egyptian sets.  Also fun to have such folks as Fiona Lewis and Robert Quarry on hand.  Terry-Thomas and Beryl Reid both have cameos that are amusing.

I really, really hope the Burton/Depp remake just falls through.  But this time around I'm determined simply to ignore its existence if it is released.

The director of the Phibes films was Bob Fuest who died a couple of years ago and has, I believe, an odd connection to the Buffy the Vampire Slayer series.  Fuest did a B movie called The Devil's Rain (filmed in Mexico, maybe?) that was really schlocky but was, I think, the first film to use the visual image of people possessed by the Devil/forces of darkness have eyes that turn black all the way through.  When this showed up on BTVS I immediately thought of "The Devil's Rain." 

My personal favorite Fuest film of all is the 1973 offbeat sci fi apocalyptic thriller, The Last Days of Man on Earth, aka The Final Programme.  It's unfortunately practically impossible to find now.

G.


1907
Cool.  If you watch carefully, at one point you'll see Grayson's character clutching the phone with both hands, rather like a certain Doctor who once set a record as world's longest-residing houseguest in the mansion of a wealthy Maine family...

G.

1908
Here's "The Wishing Stone," with Clarice in a starring role opposite William Prince.  Script is by Ian Martin who was the co-creator of "Strange Paradise" (and wrote scripts for the first seven weeks of that series):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD5nt0iYiOU

The tape opens with a news broadcast and has commercials--go to the 6:30 mark to hear the start of the program.

G.

1909
I don't think so. The plot seems to have to do with an engineer's dilemma over a faulty cable car.

G.

1910
Clarice Blackburn appears in this episode of the CBS Radio Mystery Theater, "A Preview of Death."  I haven't had the chance to listen yet, but she is mentioned in the cast listing.

I always thought Clarice would be wonderful on radio so I am excited to hear this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWXOJMJOi3c

Best,

Gothick

1911
Current Talk '13 I / Re: Regarding Quentin's Immortality
« on: June 04, 2013, 09:56:01 PM »
Gerard, thanks for letting us know about your project. I'm sitting here exhausted just *thinking* about how much time and trouble it would take to tie up ALL the illogical and loose ends from the series!  lol!

cheers, G.

1912
Current Talk '19 I / Re: Yet Another New Slideshow
« on: May 29, 2013, 09:17:49 PM »
Feeling intense excitement knowing that the epic shot of Michael Weiss' bare chest is coming up, I came to this thread for the spiritual refreshment I always receive from the revelation of such Sublime Beauty.  Why, a feeling of such deep religious devotion comes over me it's all I can do not to drop to my knees.

And I had forgotten that those delectable shots of Weiss in The Howling IV were here as well.  Hubba Hubba!  (ancient Sumerian expression of profound religious awe)

G.

1913
Calendar Events / Announcements '13 I / Re: Next up For Burton/Depp
« on: May 28, 2013, 05:33:59 PM »
Thanks, Cathy, for the update.  Didn't it take three or four years between the initial announcements that Burton & Depp were going to do the DS thing and the actual start of filming?  I seem to remember endless griping from fans that filming hadn't started yet, over a period of years.

Best, Steve

1914
Calendar Events / Announcements '13 I / Re: Next up For Burton/Depp
« on: May 28, 2013, 02:01:58 PM »
My predictions:

Dr. Vesalius will be female in this version & portrayed by HBC.  (Remember, I said HBC would play Julia in Depp Shadows, and although many dismissed the prediction... I was right.)

Vulnavia, no longer mute, will be played by Beyonce, who will *perform* the songs this time around.

George Clooney will be tapped for the Trout role (don't know why this comes to me, but it does.)

Burton will seed references to his own oeuvre throughout, such as a murder that somehow has a Scissorshands theme.

That's all she wrote.

G. (off to salute the porcelain goddess now... ugh)

1915
Calendar Events / Announcements '13 I / Re: Next up For Burton/Depp
« on: May 28, 2013, 06:09:56 AM »
Just be glad you can't read what I am thinking.  It is so beyond unprintable.

Magnus, the press announcement flatly says it is a remake of the first Phibes film, but nothing is said about the script and I'm sure once Burton and team get their claws into it, the result will bear very, very little resemblance to the original.

The Phibes story does have a number of Burton's favorite hobby-horse elements, so I can see the attraction for him.

G.

1916
Calendar Events / Announcements '13 I / Re: Next up For Burton/Depp
« on: May 28, 2013, 02:52:20 AM »
Are you speculating, or has there been a definitive press release with studio contracts, etc.?

Thanks for clarifying.

G.

1917
For what it's worth, here's the Wikipedia entry on the concept of canon as being discussed here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_(fiction)

For Star Trek, they give a definition that contrasts with the one I have given for DS.  I feel strongly that canon for Original Series DS consists of the episodes as aired, full stop.  This is the case even though I really dislike some decisions that were made in canon about character fates, notably Victoria Winters' "final" fate.  (Dale Clark's first DS fan novel was written specifically to give an alteration to this canon, which has disturbed so many fans over the years.)  Another interesting example of this is in the 1980s TV series Beauty and the Beast, where TPTB provided an ending that many (perhaps most) fans regarded as outright character rape.  I think this may have been the first instance where fannish writers provided an alternate season of episodes to what had been aired, a practice that has since become popular in Net fandom with many canceled series.

Cousin Barnabas, Roger Davis's "performances" as Jeff Clark in 1968 definitely rate as among the most hair-grippingly awful (lol) material he did on the show, so I feel your pain.

For a lot of us Ancient Blood fans (viewers during the time of the original airing), the 1968 period has its own nostalgic overlay because it was during this time that DS really hit big in mass media coverage and national awareness.  Which was why the era was recalled by some cast members as "that year of insanity."  lol!

G.


1918
We diehard fans seem to be the only ones who remember the whole Betty Hanscombe narrative. I really wish they had resolved that, but perhaps after Art Wallace left, DC decreed that it was "yesterday's headline."  And if any of the writers protested, we know what the response from the golfclub-wielding exec was--"Are you writing the show--or not?  There are a lot of people who would like to write this show."

sigh.

G.

1919
Cousin B, I honestly do not mean to be offensive--just giving my opinion--but to be frank, I found Jonny Depp's portrayal of Barnabas to be literally unwatchable.  Somehow I got through it--once.  Nothing in 1968 is on that level of dreadfulness (well, some of the Vicki/Jeff scenes come close).

Again, just my opinion.  Glad you can enjoy it to the point of having "favorite moments."  I really wish more of the Helena/Pfeiffer scenes had been kept in--the ones sans Barnabas and "Evalique" (rhymes with EEK! which is what her dye job does to me).

Going to my room to rest,

G.

1920
According to the traditional definition, series canon consists *only* of material broadcast as part of the run of the show.  *All* material not originally broadcast, including the Ken Bald and Gold Key comics, is its own canon, as are the redactions from 1991, 2004, and 2012.

I'm not even sure all the Big Finish stories are trying to fit into the same canon.  Frankly, the only one I listened to in its entirety may have had the same actors, but the characters spoke and acted like people completely different from the ones I had gotten to know through original series canon.

Just providing the traditional view--of course you can choose to slice it as you prefer.

Best, Gothick

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