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Well, frankly, regardless of how I feel about the new movie, I think Burton is pretty much hardly to blame--in my own eyes.  Given what has been reported here of what they're saying about him and his work elsewhere.  I am not on this sites and am blissfully ignorant of all of it--and rapidly losing interesting in keeping up with any of it.

I think Radcliffe would make a great Barnabas, say ten or twenty years down the line.  If anybody wants to do DS again after the release and box office performance of the Burton-Depp parody.

If the parody really takes off and does huge b/o, I don't really know that anyone would want to bother doing another take on the old story.  but then, who knows?

G.

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Fans, for anyone interested, this notice was posted last night on the Classic Horror Film fans board.  By the time I saw it, the podcast was already in progress so I did not bother to post here.  There was a notice I saw just now saying that they are going to make Pierson's segment available as a downloadable or streamable podcast on the site, http://www.cultradioagogo.com.  The blurb:

8 PM PST / 11 PM EST - We begin our 2 hour segment / open forum on Dark Shadows and the new film which just had the trailer revealed this past week. Dark Shadows community leader / convention organizer / author / new film consultant JIM PIERSON has just agreed to come on our show tonight as well. It should be an interesting night discussing the.. events at hand.

If you get a chance to listen, our DS segment will be on from 8 pm pst (11 pm est) until 10 pm pst (1 am est) and may go over if things get too in depth.  You can listen LIVE for free by going to www.cultradioagogo.com (end of blurb)

There was also a post saying that (the rest edited by admin)

I haven't had time to listen to Pierson's segment and I imagine it will just be the usual spin-a-thon.  But if anyone does bother to listen, I'd be interested to read your notes.

Best, G.

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Nancy honey, I am so sorry about your loss of that storage trailer.  I've lost a lot of things over the years too, but in a much less traumatic way; simply through the detritus of moving about, living on continents thousands of miles apart, etc. 

I figured out a solution to what I'll call the enigma of Depp Shadows--it's a parody.  Pure and simple.  Think about it.  It's actually a brilliant strategy for Burton since filming a parody plays to all his strengths as a director.  I presume that Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Slayer also has elements of parody (how could it not, with a title like that?) which explains the choice of screenwriter.  As with the original DS, the director has his own huge input no doubt.

I feel confident that this film will be a success with teens and twentysomethings, which means WB giving the green light to the full restoration of NoDS and the release of the 1970s feature films on a regular commercial DVD as opposed to MOD.  Which was what I personally wanted all along.  So, no hysterics from this fan.

G.

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Thanks, Arashi.

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Hmmm.... it all sounds reminiscent of the glory days of Joe Certa and Gold Key comics.

I have the current issue on hold at my comics shop, and would like to read to the end of the current arc--I thought it was supposed to continue through to issue 6, but maybe not?

The whole [spoiler]Quentin becoming a wolf thing in the last issue was just DUMB.  I hope it gets explained at some point.  I'm not all that optimistic though. [/spoiler]

Anyhow, Bat, thanks for the review.

Best, Gothick

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Well, I may not care for the new movie, but I would never tell somebody s/he "isn't a fan" on the basis of they like it and I don't.

I have already had disagreements here about the 1991 and 2004 remountings with people near and dear to me.  The disagreements have not affected my friendships with these fellow fans at all.  I like to think that we can be friends and still have our own opinions about things.  I hate the enforced conformity of "love me, love my eye candy" (or however you choose to phrase it).

The idea of fans hacking out little police states where you agree with them or face the firing squad on Twitterpate and Facebook is beyond ridiculous.  These people really have wayyy too much time on their hands.

G.

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Interesting review.  I couldn't see much of what was described in my one viewing of the off-broadcast posting of the trailer.

The description of Angelique's tongue makes me think of something out of "Death becomes her."

G.

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Maybe Warners will have the trailer on their website.  If they ever get around to actually LAUNCHING it, of course...

The trailer, from what I could make out of it, seemed very much in line with what I had come to expect.  A Saturday Night Live skit on DS.  Complete with "Superfly" on the soundtrack.

I'd say much more Munsters than Addams Family... the comedy, on the original Addams Family at least, was a lot more subtle than this.

G.

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Thanks, Sara, for making an album for those photos.  Excellent work!

I remember thinking when I saw the first cast photo that it looked a lot like the Addams Family, and lately I keep thinking of The Munsters too. 

I am reminded of a line uttered by Maggie Smith in The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie:  "For those who like that sort of thing... that is the sort of thing that they like."

I do have to say that the art direction in these photos is by and large stunning.  It makes one mourn for what might have been.

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re: ** BIG CHANGES COMING FOR THE NEW YEAR **
« on: March 15, 2012, 05:38:20 AM »
LOVE the original series and hoDS theme for this month.  Those are some great captures, beautifully arranged.

Thank you again for all the time and energy you put into making this such a beautiful place to visit.

G.

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Hi Penny, I keep thinking about the circa 1999 movie "The Avengers" (not to be confused with Marvel comics). It was based on the classic 1960s British series co-starring Patrick Macnee and Diana Rigg.  The movie had a huge budget, a cast that included Uma Thurman, Ralph Fiennes, and Sean Connery, and seemed set to usher in a new era for Avengers fandom.

What happened was the movie was a huge flop, widely panned, re-edited at the last minute by the studio so that the narrative made very little sense, and had minimal impact.

Last year in England a celebration of the 50th anniversary of the series' beginning was held.  The classic fandom has continued to thrive even though the series is so far as I am aware no longer being shown on television either in the US or the UK. 

If nothing else, to become a fan of the original series of DS requires quite a commitment of time and energy.   As michael said, I think it will continue to be the preserve of a self-selected few.

What I'm wondering is whether Depp Shadows will signal the death knell for the so-called DS "franchise."  Time will tell..

G.

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Thanks for reporting on this, MB.  I've been experiencing some nostalgia for what I can recall, which isn't much, from my one viewing of Alec Newman's performance as Barnabas in the abortive 2004 pilot.

I think Newman's may wind up having been my personal preference among those who have essayed the role after Jonathan Frid.  Hope the pilot is included as an extra in one of the film DVDs that will be coming up eventually.

I saw something about Newman portraying Barnabas in one of the Big Finish CDs, too--I will have to go look that up again.

Best, G.

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Current Talk '12 I / Re: The Adorable Ray Carlson
« on: March 15, 2012, 02:23:06 AM »
I totally agree, Claude!  I'll never forget the first time I saw Ray's episode as an adult.  When he showed up, my jaw dropped, I hit the rewind button and then paused a few times.

"Who is this enchanting dreamboat?"  I wondered.  I also regret that he didn't become a semi regular. 

As I recall, Ray's IMDB entry is pretty scant, too.  Along the lines of Brian Sturdivant's?

Thanks for the memory,

Steve

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Many thanks, Amanda, for your thoughts.  I am glad you got to attend the screening.

It's good to read thoughts from a bona-fide DS fan who is known to me.  The review I read on another site wasn't written by a DS fan.

G.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Depp/Burton DARK SHADOWS Spoilers
« on: March 14, 2012, 04:29:12 PM »
Sorry if I upset you and Midnite by posting the link, MB.  I didn't think the spoilers were all that much beyond what is stated in the official synopsis released long ago by TPTB, but perhaps you've even avoided reading that.  I seem to lack the faculty for being spoilt--or even understanding what is meant by "spoiler," and I do try to play it safe here.

To Phil, I had the same thoughts you did about that character's fate in the film.  It might have been done deliberately as an homage by Burton.  I don't know that the screenwriter is DS savvy enough to come up with such thing.  I guess we'll all see when the movie actually comes out.

G.

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