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Calendar Events / Announcements '11 II / Re: New fan video
« on: April 26, 2012, 05:12:42 AM »
It looks like great fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHqIV-y6a0I

I hope you can get a slot for the Tarrytown event...

G.

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That was simply beautiful, Nancy.  Thank you for sharing your memories of Jonathan with such candor. 

Like you, I am glad he has found peace.

xo Steve

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Current Talk '12 I / Re: Many Laura Murdoch Questions (spoilers)
« on: April 22, 2012, 02:16:42 AM »
Once upon a time, William Mann, who is now a somewhat well-known author of celebrity biographies and novels, wrote an article giving a fairly plausible back-story for Laura Murdoch Collins, Phoenix of the ages. It was published in a 1990s issue of the old zine, Inside the Old House.  If the editor of the zine runs a website now (I have had no contact with him in well over a decade, but if I remember correctly, his name was Dale Clark), perhaps someday he could be talked into posting Bill's essay on the internet.  I didn't agree with all of Bill's ideas, but I think he did come up with the best solution to a number of your questions.

It seems fairly clear in both 1966 and 1897 that the pre-burning Laura was not a Phoenix, but that she was something of a playgirl (if I may be allowed to use a slang expression from the era).  After Laura's disappearance in 1967, Roger flatly informs Liz that the woman had walked among them during those fraught months "wasn't Laura."  Not the Laura he had known, at any rate.  There's a definitiveness to that scene that feels quite real to me.  And yet, Laura was able to play upon the emotions of both Roger and Burke in her attempts to take David for herself. 

If I'm remembering correctly, Bill Mann came up with an occult reason for why Laura was required to sacrifice her child/children in her second hecatomb.  I think it was the price for having "immortal life."  Not a price any normal mother would welcome.  I thought one of the incredible things about Diana Millay's performance was how she suggested Laura's inhuman nature in a very subtle way as the story went on.  The writing in the 1966/67 story was just a bit more subtle than the writing for her story in 1897.

I do think that there was some kind of Phoenix Paradise in which Laura's consciousness dwelt in between incarnations.  Her descriptions of it, particularly in the 1966/67 story, felt very "alive" to me, as if she were describing something she had really felt and seen.

Alas, the words of the spirit of David Radcliffe (was it David Radcliffe?) at that seance suggests that although Laura's progeny may go into the flames with her, she goes on to her Phoenixworld alone. (Am I hallucinating this scene with the spirit of the earlier David?)

This is about all I have the energy to write tonight on the topic.  The Phoenix and the Count Petofi story were perhaps the most original narratives DS ever produced, and the 1966/67 Phoenix story might have been the highpoint, atmospherically, of the entire series... well worth viewing multiple times.

G. 

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 I / Re: "Dank Shadows" returns
« on: April 21, 2012, 11:39:18 PM »
Episodes have continued to be added on a weekly basis, and we're now up to episode XXII (22).  We had our first glimpse of "Mangelique" today.  Horrifying!

G.

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I am guessing the new trailer with Chinese subtitles and voiceover is for the Taiwan release.  Not to show off or anything, but I read Chinese and the type of characters and style of Mandarin used in the trailer are typical of Taiwan.  I suppose it might be for Singapore as well... wasn't there a Singapore website that leaked some early photos?  Or was that Brazil?  Or both?

The Chinese title, for anyone who cares, translates as "Dark-shadowed Family" or "Dark Shadows Family" (it's ambivalent; Chinese doesn't have tenses and inflections the way Indo-European languages do).

The scene with Barnabas and the hippies makes me wonder if Burton is also a fan of the late Robert Quarry Deathmaster film (about a vampire setting himself up as a hippie guru).  This movie seems to be his opportunity to offer homage to just about anything in or out of reach from the Sixties and early Seventies.

I know I'm being a sourpuss but I don't find the idea of Barn slaughtering an entire camp full of people funny.   Love means never having to say you're sorry so I won't.

cheers, G.

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I was thinking the same too, Nancy.  I know it often sounds harsh to those who are bereaved, but sometimes a quick, sudden passing, when the person says farewell to life with his dignity intact, is preferable to the alternative.

I really do think of him as taking a very well deserved rest... free from what I believe the Bard called the "slings and arrows" of continued existence.

Steve

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There is an update now on the link for KLS' eulogy of him:

http://www.kathrynleighscott.com/?page_id=298

Google showed an obit on a soap opera history page, too, but I didn't clip the link.  I am sure the obits will be posted as we move deeper into the day.

May his spirit be blessed.  He brought happiness and comfort to so many.

G.

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I am shocked and saddened.  But he has gone to a well deserved rest.

As he recited so memorably on the 1969 LP:

"Until the morning of eternity
His rest shall not begin nor end, but be:
And when he wakes,
He will not think it long."

May the Peace that Passeth all Understanding be his.

Steve

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 I / Re: foreverlynn
« on: April 19, 2012, 05:45:55 AM »
I met her once, I believe at a Jonathan Frid event around 13 or 14 years ago.  I remember her as a lovely, warm, quiet individual.

It is really an awful loss for her family that she has been taken at such a young age.  I pray that memories of her may help comfort them, and those who loved her.

Best, Steve

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I was just updating my Netflix queue and for the hell of it, checked the status of DS.  I live in the Boston (Mass./New England) area and all 26 sets are showing up as available.  I think the pre-Barn episodes are as well; there was a picture of Vicki from the box cover of the first 1966 set in use as the icon for the series.

Netflix uses thematic keywords that may either be genre terms ("comedy") or descriptive of mood and atmosphere.  For the original series of DS, the keywords given are "dark, suspenseful."  I was quite surprised to see that there is already a page up for Depp Shadows even though the movie hasn't even been released.  I have the feeling this is common practice nowadays so I shouldn't be surprised.  I kid you not, for the 2012 feature films the keywords given are "dark, goofy." 

Time will tell how accurate that assessment is... at least it's "dark, goofy" rather than "goofy, dark."

Even though they are commenting on a movie they haven't seen, there are substantial comments from Netflix patrons giving their opinions about the 2012 movie.  I only read a few.  The back and forth is one with which we have all become familiar in recent months.

G.

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I personally thought it jumped the shark in issue 3.  Always willing to agree to disagree, of course.

Uncle Roger, I am also guessing editorial interference came into play with the disastrous issue 4, and I personally suspect that another individual (oh, how hard I struggle not to type the word "hack") rewrote Stuart's original story. 

YMMV.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 I / Re: Mad Men meets DS?
« on: April 15, 2012, 04:25:23 PM »
But then one wonders about the bleeder valve storyline...

*wink*

G.

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It looks as if Carolyn has an issue of 16 magazine under the sofa in one of the photos with her and David.  Another nice nod to ye olde days if so.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 I / Re: Mad Men meets DS?
« on: April 14, 2012, 09:53:17 PM »
But of course, Sandor, we privileged few here on this Board are aware that "the Pen" storyline WAS the highpoint of DS!  Barnabas who?

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 I / Re: brooklyn DS "tribute"
« on: April 14, 2012, 06:20:43 PM »
I am only interested in Return/Collinwood for Darren's revised work on the films (which will be quite a treat!) and the photos, which could potentially be a thrill.  Nancy K just posted a Barnabas publicity photo from the 1967 sessions I am pretty sure has gone unseen all these years, and it's a really good one--great angle, with the cane, in Josette's bedroom with her portrait above Barnabas.

I hope you enjoy the event!  If I lived in NYC I would definitely plan to be there.

G.

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