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2521
On a related topic, FWIW, I think I must truly be in my dotage, because I have played each of the spots a couple of times as they have been released, and nowhere did I see a scene of Angelique playing the piano.  I have to presume that either I have intermittent amnesia (which is entirely possible) or it was one of those things that went by so fast I just failed to pick up on what was going on.

I've been amazed at details I have been able to spot in MB's screen captures from the various trailers.  There are some pretty fab bits of set decor lurking around in there.

G.

2522
Hey Janet, did old Guthrie DIE ... BY ... FIRE?

love, Gothick

2523
Penny, that drawing is superb!  absolutely love it and love you for posting it!

Fangs for the memories,

Uncle Gothick (emphasis on the "ICK!  the Thing that wouldn't die!" bwahahaha!)

2524
Amanda, that documentary sounds fascinating.  Thanks.

I was (and still am) a fan of a 1990s series called Poltergeist: the Legacy.  It had very little to do with the Poltergeist films; it was one of those psychic investigation team series.  Anyhow, there was this one writer whose email got out to the fan community.  He wrote the best scripts for the series, with layered characterizations, intriguing nuances, witty dialogue, etc.  I wrote to him a few times over the years and he was always gracious enough to respond.

I'll never forget our exchange about the last script he wrote for the series.  I wrote to congratulate him (they had pretty much stopped using him at that point) and he told me that in the final filming script, there were only two words, or maybe it was two sentences, left from his original script!  But he got paid and got the onscreen byline anyway!  As dear Grayson used to say, Who can figure anything, especially in "Hollywood" (technically Poltergeist was produced in Vancouver).

G.

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DS was way ahead of other 1960s soap operas.  Sy Tomasoff's sets were build and detailed to a level that was far in advance of the standard of the day.  Bob Cobert's score had avant-garde elements and a level of artistry that left the campy organ cues of other soaps in the dust.  At a time when standard soap scripts were mainly about the nasty slattern down the street, DS was evoking everything from Dracula to The Little Foxes (by Miss Hellman). 

I know I am singing to the choir but honestly...

G.

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Current Talk '12 I / Re: Return To Collinwood
« on: March 28, 2012, 12:24:18 AM »
Darren, congratulations on being given the opportunity to revise and improve that chapter!  I will look forward to the book now for your contribution alone.

Really?  There are omissions and equivocations in the chapter on the 2004 pilot?  I'm shocked.  Simply shocked.  Why, I always thought of Miss Scott and Mister Pierson as authors of the most unsullied candor.

am I winking or do I have something in my eye,

G.

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Current Talk '12 I / Re: Return To Collinwood
« on: March 27, 2012, 10:10:50 PM »
Thanks Joey; interesting to hear, and hardly comes as a surprise.

Any observations or thoughts on the photos?

Best, G.

2528
Calendar Events / Announcements '12 I / Re: Comic book cameo
« on: March 27, 2012, 04:23:13 PM »
Such coolness, and the writer (yourself?) has a delicious command of something dear to my heart that used to be known as the English language... "icy carapace" has a marvelous ring to it.  FAAAAABulous!

Penny Dreadful in the comics is quite the Goddess, but she just doesn't have quite the distinctive charm that you yourself radiate in the flesh.

Hoping the comic is a huge success!  I need to order it!

hugs, Gothick

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Calendar Events / Announcements '12 I / Re: "Dank Shadows" returns
« on: March 26, 2012, 02:09:56 AM »
Episode 18 is now available, launching the kidnapping of Maguette Bevans and the first appearance of the ghost of Chera Ballins (who seems to have a distinctive propensity for show-tune arrangements of folk songs).

G.

2530
Love the set design for Julia's lab.  It's so lusciously theatrical as are so many of the key sets in this opus.

Funny that Angelique doesn't appear at all in this one.  Haven't a clue why not since she is so important to what we've been told about this story.

Thanks so much for the captures, MB.  The images whizz by far too quickly otherwise. 

BarnaDepp looks as if he is wondering "what sort of claret cup is that?" as he watches the people (in the Blue Whale?) eating ice cream sundaes.

G.

2531
I wonder whether the nail polish tie-in has to do with Orly getting the contract to do Depp's fake fingernail manicures for the film.  The high resolution photos certainly do show them to be an unusual shade of pink.

I was thinking about parody this weekend while revisiting the 1967 Casino Royale.  It seems as if the reaction to its release back then paralleled in some ways what is happening with Depp Shadows.  The 1967 film is now regarded, by some of us at least, as a masterpiece and brilliant time capsule of its era.  But back then most critics and moviegoers treated it as "Bomb, James Bomb."  Re-watching this film from a bygone era (the same era that gave us original series DS of course) made me realize that the eventual response to Depp Shadows could be a more nuanced one than I had hitherto conceived.

For myself, watching the trailers and the rest of the Depp Shadows runup unfold has clarified for me that I'm no longer interested--if I ever really was interested--in any Dark Shadows remakes, period.  I know people follow KLS's lead in saying DS is like Shakespeare and every actress deserves to give her take on Josette (or whoever).  But to me, DS wasn't like a theatrical epic; it was like the part of my family I never met--the people who were like ME (which nobody else in my real family ever was).  To that extent, I like the publicists' angle about every family having its weirdies or however they're phrasing. 

If I walked into a room and saw somebody portraying my Aunt Lillian, and not only that, had the imposter who was supposed to be her running around in a crushed velvet cape with five hundred pounds of pancake makeup, it would be jarring and I wouldn't be able to "just get used to it."  To me, DS is a cast of characters portrayed by Jonathan Frid, Grayson Hall, Joan Bennett et al. as they were 40 years ago. 

I don't think I will ever be able to get through to some of you how it all makes me feel... this is my last attempt at it.

Enjoy the movie.

G.

2533
Borgosi, that is very interesting regarding your daughter's report from that midnight showing of Hunger Games.  Thank you for sharing that.

I had already sort of figured that Angelique has been combined with the original Burke Devlin character in this version.  I still haven't a clue how Bill Malloy is supposed to fit in.

I'm sorry but I have played the trailer a number of times and I don't see any way it could be interpreted other than as a spoof.  And sometimes, I can really get into a good spoof.

It would really help though if I could stop seeing Eddie Munster whenever I look at BarnaDepp Scissors...

G.

2534
Current Talk '12 I / Re: DS 1991: A Look Back
« on: March 22, 2012, 04:03:38 AM »
Great essay, Zahir!  I'm far, far from being an authority, or even a fan, of the 1991 DS, but as I understand it wasn't just the heavy hand of Dan Curtis that sabotaged the show; there were other factors at play:

(1) The Gulf War, and the cupidity of NBC programmers, meant that the series episodes were shunted all over the place in the schedule, to the point where you'd have needed David's crystal ball to know when the next installment was going to air.  As well, the initial Friday night slot was a notorious "death slot" in the NBC schedule so the series was already being given short shrift by programmers.

(2)  NBC suits (Brandon Tartikoff, perhaps?) apparently insisted that the 1790 flashback and scenes set in the present interweave in the latter weeks of the series, resulting in a hodgepodge effect in some of the episodes and an unnecessarily speeded-up retelling of the original 1795 story.  (I still wince whenever I think of that last episode.)

I personally found the art direction to be very erratic--sometimes great, othertimes unwatchable--and the same for the writing--Curtis needed to hire someone of the calibre of Sam Hall to be a script editor.  My impression is that DC himself was the script editor.  This in general never proved to be a scenario resulting in greatness (yeah, I know the Curtis worshippers out there will disagree--just giving *my* opinion here).

I'm sure I've already written more than anyone cares to read, but the final thing I have to say about this show is even though everyone always talks about the lavish production values, something about it just looks somehow tawdry to me.  I don't know whether it is that clashy color palette they kept reverting to (see note above about art direction) and the network trying to cut corners on post production (I have no idea about the technical side of things, but the series always looks so grainy and poorly-developed in the film stock sense of the word). 

I still think that if the network had supported it more, it would have lasted at least one more season.  I have the impression that there was backstory and personality conflicts behind the abrupt pulling of the plug.

cheers, G.

2535
Sad news!  and my hat's off once again to Kosmo.  I always thought I knew about some obscure actors, but Kosmo's knowledge of the field leaves me in the dust!

G.

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