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I wonder if this means the DVDs are being discontinued?  I had better grab them...

I did watch some of hoDS and the color is so gorgeous.  It was lovely to see Grayson.

My ISP just doesn't do streaming well.  Stop and go, stop and go.  It did allow me to study various details.  I got to the bal masque sequence and wondered again who played "John," who is asked to meet Jeff in the scene where Barn makes his first move with Maggette.

G.

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Current Talk '17 I / Re: Exteriors
« on: February 11, 2017, 05:07:51 AM »
I'd personally call Seaview Terrace Queen Anne with some French features, but let's face it, the house is a complete hodgepodge architecturally.  Of course that just makes me love it all the more.

I'd forgotten Stokes's remarks about the Old House.  Maybe an excuse to revisit the early Stokes episodes...

Best, G.

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Current Talk '17 I / Re: Exteriors
« on: February 10, 2017, 03:01:14 PM »
Also, it is worth noting that Dan Curtis started planning a flashback storyline that would reveal how Barnabas became a vampire as early as August of 1967.  It is documented in some letters that Jonathan Frid sent to his mother that somehow wound up being owned and distributed by a fan.  I don't know at what point DC decided that the flashback story would be set in the 1790s.  I've always wondered if the backdating happened simply because a costume rental company had stuff available for the 18th century, but nothing on hand for the 1830s era. An odd thing is that the last big flashback story they did was set in 1840 which was pretty close to the original period for Barnabas, Josette and the others.  As you'll have noticed, Josette originally had a different name--not du Pres.

G.

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Current Talk '17 I / Re: Exteriors
« on: February 10, 2017, 02:41:27 PM »
Hi Patti,

This is a cool article on the history of Seaview Terrace. The existing structure combines two houses.  One house was originally built in Washington DC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaview_Terrace

I think there is a web article somewhere on the Spratt House as well.  Ruins reportedly are still visible on the site.  It is somewhere away from the main grounds I think.

Yeah, here's one page for that house:

http://www.hudsonvalleyruins.org/yasinsac/spratt/spratt.html

In the original DS backstory, Barnabas, Josette and Jeremiah were all living at Collinwood in the 1830s.  For some reason the date 1837 sticks in my head for when Barnabas originally became a vampire.  I don't know why.  It might have been mentioned in an episode.  The style of Collinwood does not fit at all the period of the 1830s, but I think the style of the Old House does.

Best, G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '17 I / OT: Shades of STRANGE PARADISE
« on: February 10, 2017, 01:30:28 AM »
In my time on Youtube, recently I have noticed that a lot of films we used to see on Creature Feature type programs when I was growing up in the 1960s are suddenly available on this venue in their entirety.  I wonder if this has to do with a lot of these films going into public domain.

A friend mentioned CASTLE OF EVIL (1966).  The end credits imply it was made for TV, but it may have had a brief theatrical distribution--don't know.  This one had a couple of elements that reminded me of STRANGE PARADISE, notably sinister housekeeper Lupe (played by Shelley Morrison, who is best known now for her role as Rosario on WILL & GRACE) watching the other guests at the titular castle on a closed circuit TV system.  I think most DS fans would enjoy this kind of thing, even though it's probably at best a 2 star movie; I know I had fun with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxubi5RAm98

Best, G.

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Current Talk '17 I / Re: Late 1970s DS Comeback?
« on: February 08, 2017, 07:05:00 PM »
Thanks for those notes MB.  I know I would enjoy watching it again, especially because I have near total amnesia of anything in the plot.  No spoilers but if you do watch to the end, you'll see that had the show gone into production, it would most likely have shared even more plot points and setpieces with DS... I can't recall specifics, just that there were a couple of surprises.

G.

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Current Talk '17 I / Re: Late 1970s DS Comeback?
« on: February 08, 2017, 04:45:08 PM »
I enjoyed DARK MANSIONS but I barely remember it even though it was only a couple of years ago that I watched the movie.  It's nice that it's on Youtube if I want to revisit.

Interesting that it was publicized in the early DS fandom, too.

G.

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Current Talk '17 I / Re: T. David Questions: Could Contain Spoilers
« on: February 07, 2017, 06:18:27 PM »
Stanley Adams was fabulous.  He was also in STAR TREK as the guy who got the whole "Trouble with Tribbles" started...

G.

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Current Talk '17 I / Re: Late 1970s DS Comeback?
« on: February 07, 2017, 06:04:41 PM »
This isn't related to the BITTER HILL thread (I had never heard of this attempt), but my buddy Curt turned me on to a 1980s pilot called DARK MANSIONS which seems as if it must have been done by people who were fans of our show.  If you watch to the end there are a couple of plot motifs that might seem familiar. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cXNghQR3h8

It lasts around 90 minutes--he sent it to me on disc but I think I sent the disc to another fan after I watched.

Best,  G.

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Current Talk '17 I / Re: T. David Questions: Could Contain Spoilers
« on: February 07, 2017, 05:59:52 PM »
Thayer David was a really busy actor.  Around that time, again without checking references, I think he appeared in the stage production of ROYAL HUNT OF THE SUN and a short lived musical version of BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S (he played Rusty Trawler, if I remember correctly--a very minor role) and a TV staging of THE CRUCIBLE as well as an episode of the fabulous Peter Falk series TRIALS OF O'BRIEN, on which Grayson also appeared (they were in separate episodes, and I wish to Hell the series would come out on home video--it's an important slice of TV history).  And that's just what I can recall off the top of my head.

It's kind of ironic that so many of us remember Thayer from DS because it was really a fairly minor episode in his career.

G.

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I learned that song a long time before I ever got to see that 1966 episode of DS.  It was used in an elaborate musical setting by Australian composer Percy Grainger and I owned the LP in the mid 1970s.

It was funny to have it come up on DS...

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '17 I / OT: Shades of DS
« on: February 07, 2017, 01:02:53 AM »
Fans,

This morning over breakfast I happened to stumble upon some clips from 1960s underground film schlockmeister Andy Milligan's 1969 film TORTURE DUNGEON.  This one in particular made me think somewhat of DS, I guess due to the baroque set and costume designs and acting techniques:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPlNfT5vXEw&t=4s

I always knew that line about being a "trisexual" was really old--it was interesting to see actual documentation of this.

If you check out other clips from this epic on youtube, there's one that was included in somebody's vlog where the guy recounts meeting John Waters and discussing Milligan's work.  Milligan was the subject of a book length biography, THE GHASTLY ONES, which provides an interesting glimpse into 1960s NYC sleaze culture and how this actually intersected occasionally with the avant-garde. A lot of these films were shot in various locations on Staten Island or elsewhere.

Not really related to Dark Shadows but it all makes me think of the milieu of the time--I am not sure that younger fans may comprehend why I think this way...

Best, G.

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Too bad that no photos were available for Grayson's very brief stint on AMC--around 1973 I think?

Those are lovely snaps.  Thanks.

G.

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The last time I watched the film (which was many years ago now, on my VHS tape from the old Laserdisc--a friend made the tape for me since I have never owned a laserdisc player), I noted one moment when Joan is turning to look at Daphne where she gave one of those looks that made me think of the old Liz from '66-'67.

Wonderful captures MB!

In one of JF's interviews from the 1980s--I think it was the one that was published in a Baltimore weekly which I used to read when I was a student at Hopkins--he referred to hoDS as "practically pornographic."  I think he found it all really distasteful.  My perception, rightly or wrongly, is that JF's career went into hibernation for several years because he really did not want to do horror projects or be associated in any way with the genre and that was the kind of work that would have been available to him.

I'm sure most have heard of this, but Malia Howard's career biography of JF has been reprinted now.  For those interested in finding out more about what he did after DS, I am sure it is the best source available.

G.

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Glorioski, Uncle Roger!  I thought AD was competently written, but "literature"??

It reminds me of the skit that used to be on SNL a really long time ago of some clueless wealthy lady who had her copy of Cosmo and told viewers about this "fabulous new book I'm reading" as she leafed through the perfume and negligee adverts.  She would also things like "oh yes, fur is murder--it's MURDER to clean!  Have I told you about the last bill for my fox stole?"

LOL!

G.

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