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Current Talk '07 I / Re: What was on Maggie's resume?
« on: April 02, 2007, 10:00:58 PM »
Maggie's qualifications:  good healthy screams; looks groovy in the latest Governess Chic fashions, vintage '69.

It would have made some sense if Liz had hired Maggie to do DAYCARE for the children, on the presumption that since Maggie had been close to Vicki, Maggie's presence in the house would help ease the trauma of Vicki's disappearance for the kids.  There could have been dialogue along the lines of "I'll ask Maggie if she'd like to come live at Collinwood to help watch the children while I look for a teacher to provide their lessons."  Of course, this would have required hiring another actress to play the teacher, but she could have appeared even more infrequently than Mrs Johnson did...

I quite like the notion of Julia as the Governess.  (*starts pondering scenarios*)

G.

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Polls Archive / Re: Last day of DS
« on: April 02, 2007, 04:41:27 PM »
Oh, I remember it well!  I still remember reeling in disbelief when I read somewhere (either on one of those yellow pages inside the front cover of TV Guide or in the newspaper) that they were pulling the plug on the show.  I knew it was going to end and I knew that when Thayer David's voice came on to tell us there would be no more dark shadows for the Collinses, that it was curtains, but, even so, I tuned in on April 5 to witness the appalling banality of Password (a show I had actually enjoyed occasionally before this date) where vampires, witches, werewolves and fabulous scenery-ripping shrieking eccentrics in yards of black eyeliner once RULED.

still feeling the bitter taste in my mouth...

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Jane Draper
« on: March 26, 2007, 04:45:53 PM »
Last night I watched two of Jane Draper's episodes of DS.  She played Suki Forbes in 1795.

It's a testament to Draper's skill that I was actually cruising for Natalie episodes (and yes, fast forwarding through my tape, a practice that I do realize some deplore but I'm just a shameless hussy when it comes to my practice of the Cult of Grayson Hall).  When Suki walked into the Eagle, I hit the play button and commented to my roomie, whose jaw had dropped:  "I just gotta watch Suki do her thing!"

I just love it, too, that Suki had a brand new wardrobe for Day 2 and her arrival at "the Great House."  She was clearly a lady who did things with style (and who knew how to SHOP, even in a dump like 18th century Collinsport!).

I'm really really sorry that Draper did not return in a recurring role.  She's up there with Cavada Humphrey, Elizabeth Eis, Abe Vigoda, Anita Bolster and other Special Guest Players on DS, in my book.

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Art Wallace's The House ...
« on: March 23, 2007, 07:50:58 PM »
I found a post by Miss Winthrop from her review of the 2004 Festival that mentioned DS cast members performing "The House."  She mentioned that John Karlen played the prototype of the Jason Maguire character with an impeccable Irish brogue.  Sounds very entertaining!

Unfortunately I tried to go back to the search and got some weird warning about entering the Forum illegally... the search results then disappeared.  I use IE and I think that pretty soon I am going to have to abandon ship altogether because the boards just don't work very well with Microsoft products...

cheers, G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: Art Wallace's The House ...
« on: March 23, 2007, 07:28:39 PM »
This is what I remember:

a fan has a videotape of it in her/his collection and was going to bring it to a Festival so it could be screened.  But then the fan failed to show up.  Nobody else has ever been able to track down a copy of it.  It may be one of the things that no longer exists in the studio vaults.

I remember reading a detailed description, I would guess by Amanda as Vlad mentioned.  What I recall from that is that the names were switched so that Carolyn was the Mom (who made her living offering piano lessons--perhaps this is why we see Liz playing the piano a couple of times in the very first week or two of shows), and Elizabeth was the daughter.  I think they had the theme of the mother being a recluse and not having left the house in many years.

Did you try searching Art Wallace on the Forum?  That might lead you to it.  The House would probably turn up too many hits to be of use.

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: julia
« on: March 23, 2007, 04:43:32 PM »
As for Julia being put under a spell, etc. when it DID happen it seemed to be WAY more spectacular than with anybody else. Two examples:

[spoiler]Julia's delirious "affair" with Vampire Tom Jennings.  Didn't somebody up there comment about what a "physical" actress Grayson was on the show??[/spoiler]

and:

[spoiler]Julia being carried out of Collinwood by Jeb's zombie band of renown.  I remember my jaw dropping back in '70 when I saw THAT.[/spoiler]

There was also:

[spoiler]Julia becoming the patsy-in-thrall to Gerard in 1995.  Grayson REALLY put some oomph into those scenes![/spoiler]

I'm sure there's more I could cite, but I'll stop here.

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: julia
« on: March 22, 2007, 09:44:24 PM »
Julia DID get her own back by bitch-slapping more people than anybody else at Collinwood.  At last count, besides Dear Dead Cassandra (hahahaha), Julia bitch-slapped Mrs. Johnson, Joe Haskell, and Sabrina.  She may have bitch-slapped Willie at one point, too--I honestly forget.

I sometimes wonder whether bitch-slapping was an approved technique with the American Psychiatric Association, given how frequently Julia used it to help various individuals "calm" themselves...

evilly grinning,

Gothique

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Birthday blessings to the eternally beautiful Mr. Briscoe.  May he rest in peace.

Steve

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Sorry to hear that these are not legit releases, but thanks Darren for letting us know.

A friend of mine turned my old VHS of The Devil's Daughter into a DVD-R, but I held onto the tape, and I'm glad I did so, now that I know about the very limited shelf-life of DVD-R's.

I agree one thousand percent about the need for decent releases of those wonderful old TV movies of the Seventies.  The one I want is The Cat Creature, with fabulous Gale Sondergaard (directed by genre afficionado Curtis Harrington--now something of a legend in his own right).  I bought a bootleg of it on eBay and the qualtiy is beyond shitty.  Watching even that did bring back happy memories, I must confess.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '07 I / Re: Barbara Steele News
« on: March 22, 2007, 07:25:22 PM »
Penny darling, Miss Steele was contracted for exactly one day's work on She Beast.  It was the first feature film to be directed by "angry young man" of the late 1960s British genre directors, Michael Reeves.  He saw to it that Miss Steele worked an exhaustingly long shift on her "one day" of work--I forget just how long, but it was around a 20 hour day for her, I believe.  Ian Ogilvy, who was a close buddy of Mr. Reeves,' worked I believe through the entire shoot.

I do recall the scenes between Steele and Ogilvy in the film's beginning as by far the best in the movie--definitely worth viewing if you're a fan of either or both.  There's a definite chem between the two.  I am really looking forward to hearing them swap stories about working in the genre during the Sixties, and beyond.

Unfortunately, the She Beast itself is a singularly unfrightening, embarrassing bit of goods--definitely bargain basement horror!

G.

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Current Talk '07 I / Re: The Wicked Woman--'91 remix
« on: March 22, 2007, 07:15:50 PM »
An interesting postscript to this thread:  last night, rewatching some scenes from the extraordinary Anchor Bay DVD release of George Romero's fabulous 1972 sleeper Season of the Witch, I noticed that the hereditary Witch tapped the Queen of Swords during a Tarot reading and called it "the Wicked Woman."  Still more interesting, the card referred to a woman with whom the husband of a friend of the heroine's was having an adulterous affair.

I should go check Eden Gray and see whether she describes the Q of Swords as "the Wicked Woman" in this way...

G.

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The Devil's Daughter is a gem.  Shelley Winters chews the scenery as Lilith, sinister and glamorous leader of a Satanic coven.  Jonathan Frid is wonderful in the small but poignant non-speaking role of the Winters character's chauffeur and butler.  And Abe Vigoda has a small role in it as well.  Horror vet Joseph Cotten doesn't get to do much but is fun to watch as a Judge.

Belinda Montgomery, who stars in the title role, practically defines the somewhat stodgy aesthetic of ABC TV movies of the week.

I'm afraid I don't remember Crawlspace at all--although I do recall the ads for it.

G.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '07 I / Re: Barbara Steele News
« on: March 22, 2007, 04:29:26 PM »
Wow, what a fantastic photo, and with the divine Ian Ogilvy, too!  Thanks for that link, Mr. Retzev!

I found the She Beast a crashing bore when I saw it on tape years ago, but I will have to revisit it, thanks to that new edition.

G.

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Regarding Maggie's memories of 1967:

[spoiler]Warlock Nicholas Blair erased them after Maggie escaped from the Mauseoleum in the Autumn of '68.  Nicholas could not allow Maggie to interfere with his plans for the creation of Eve.  He also was in love with Maggie and was obviously unwilling to harm her in any way.  We don't actually see him erase her memories nor do we get to be privy to his motives for doing so--the viewer is simply left to work this out.[/spoiler]

As for David, this is one of the most extreme instances of sheer sloppiness on the part of the writers.

[spoiler]Given the nature of Dark Shadows, they could and should have come up with SOME explanation for David's clear knowledge that Barnabas is one of the Undead by the end of the 1967 story.  But there is no explanation whatsoever.  The child simply no longer knows what he knew then.  Perhaps there was a scene on the cutting room floor where the Evil Dark Shadows Anti-continuity Phantasm (cameo role for Dan Curtis) appeared in David's bedroom and fixed him with a vicious, bloodshot glare and grated: "Lissen UP, Kid--you'll forget everything ya evah KNEW about Bahnabas CAWLLINS and you'll forget it NOW.  As of LAST MONTH.  Clear?" Scowl.

Sorry, Just Kidding! *wink*[/spoiler]

cheers, G.

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[spoiler]Well, don't forget that when we last saw them, Sabrina had suffered a really terrible attack at the hands of Barnabas.  When Barnabas disappeared and Julia, who was the main person trying to help Chris, seems to have wandered off into emotional la-la land before her own "transcendence" into Parallel Time, Chris probably decided it was time to get Sabrina and Amy the hell out of Collinsport.

It would have only taken about 3 sentences more of dialogue in that scene in the drawing room in the Summer of 1970 to sum this up.  As was so often the case, however, the writers couldn't be bothered.

I have to wonder whether this snippet of dialogue was inserted into that scene because DC still hoped that Briscoe and Nickerson would one day return to this show.  It's hard to know at this point.[/spoiler]

G.

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