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Calendar Events / Announcements '03 II / Re:OT to dom
« on: July 25, 2003, 06:12:32 PM »
Hi Cassandra, I love Flo too!  I love watching her on the old Ed Sullivan videos.  It just breaks my heart that she had such an awful life.

have you heard Flo's solo song from that Sam Cooke album?  It's awesome.  Unfortunately, Flo's own LP, that she worked on for awhile after she left the Supremes, isn't so great--at least the bootleg tape I heard of it was less than stellar.  I think things were already wearing her down at that point (1968).

also, there's this book called All that Glitters--at least, I think that is the title--by a man who was running one of the Supremes' fan clubs in the Sixties.  There were some great stories about Flo in there.

Gothick

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Grayson did attend the Oscars in '65.  She was in town anyway doing that Disney flick.  She got around a lot that year--went to Italy for the Spoleto Festival in the Summer and was back in LA in Sept. to make "Back to Back," that thing with Shelley Winters and Jack Hawkins, that maddeningly has failed to surface.  It was shown in the Bob Hope Chrysler Theatre series.

I've been wanting to screen the 1965 Oscarcast to see whether she made it on camera, but have yet to track down a tape of same.  I thought it was in the Museum of TV and Radio but they've been too busy addng more episodes of Seinfeld and Cheers to their viewing collections to bother with such trivia as the Oscarcasts (can you hear me grinding my teeth?)

G.

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:The Stepfather.......
« on: July 23, 2003, 05:41:59 PM »
He actually reminds me of a sleazy, down-at-heels, faded-pimp version of Don Ameche.  but I'm sure I am the only one here who remembers the divine Don Ameche.

Gothick

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These shows are just meant to be entertainment.  I find the whole notion of the 10, 25, 50 or 100 "best" books, thespians, novels, TV shows or songs intensely annoying.  I blame a twisted alliance of monotheism, mass marketing, and Oprahism for the strange notion that someone else's notion of taste should be imposed upon my own criteria of aesthetic excellence.

That said, I did think the cartoon they came up to promote this show was cute. I found it hilarious that Diane Ross was down front and center, arms raised as THE Supreme One!  I guess the artist was a Motown fan.

Gothick

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:Costume Balls, Rebecca, and DS Writers
« on: July 23, 2003, 04:40:35 PM »
Hi Doombuggy, well, I had no idea that DC fired Miss Welles.  Did she finally give him a piece of her mind about one of his nuttier storyline convolutions?

I have the one print interview with her that was published in TWODS (I think).  What a great lady.

Would love to have more details in a private IM (since we are not allowed to discuss dish about the show here).

Best wishes, Steve

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:Blooper?
« on: July 23, 2003, 03:34:02 PM »
Hi, Cassandra, yes, I notice the same blooper every time I watch this episode.  Somebody in continuity was asleep at the wheel that day.  It's surprising, actually, that this sort of thing did not happen in the interaction between the Parallel Time/Original Time storylines.

Gothick

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:DS meets OLTL
« on: July 23, 2003, 03:30:25 PM »
Wow, doombuggy, you're so lucky to have Grayson and Nancy's work from OLTL in 1982 on tape.  I've seen Grayson's first two episodes on that show--marvelous role for her.  I've never seen any of Nancy's work from that period, alas.

It's claimed in one of the KLS published Pom Press DS books that there *was* one scene on OLTL in which the characters portrayed by Grayson, Nancy, and Tony George met.  Supposedly, the dialogue in the scene revolved around how long it had been since the characters had met!

As I'm sure you've heard, Tony George was a good friend of Grayson's and Sam's. When Grayson started appearing on OLTL, Tony kept joking that he wanted Sam to write a romance storyline for his character and Grayson's!

I never knew about the fire for the original OLTL credits being filmed on the set of DS.  That's fascinating.

Steve

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:Yo' Mama!
« on: July 21, 2003, 10:45:06 PM »
I've wondered this as well, R. P.  Even by Dark Shadows' standards, the Maggie kidnapping scenario seems really degrading for the character and the actress.

Earlier today I was in a video store and I saw a tape of what I've always heard is a brilliant reversal of this type of story; the early 70s Sandy Dennis showpiece, That cold day in the park.  I should screen that one of these days.  I think D. C. was probably thinking of the Terence Stamp/Samantha Eggar film, the Collector, when he cooked up the Yeagar/Maggie episode.

Gothick

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Calendar Events / Announcements '03 II / Re:Happy Birthday Sheenasma
« on: July 18, 2003, 02:40:56 PM »
Happy birthday, dear!  I want a chorus-line of kittens to parade around your bed and meow you a Happy Birthday chorale.

Many happy returns, Steve

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:If it had been me.............
« on: July 17, 2003, 08:16:30 PM »
The poor (non-existent?) delineation of the characterizations of Maggie and Quentin is a HUGE problem with the latter part of PT1970 for me.  Despite the considerable chemistry of the actor and actress cast in these roles, as people they're both about as desirable as damp cardboard.  When they're onscreen, they make one think of one of those dreadful couples who insist upon bickering in restaurants, subjecting the rest of the world to their pathetic inability to relate to one another.

At this point in the story, it's pretty much established that Quentin is a ranting, dysfunctional boor, while Maggie has been reduced to a snivelling, spineless dishrag with the self-awareness of a toothpick.

Maggie's imbecile posturing also ruins the concept of Cyrus/Yeagar's obsession with her, for me at least.  It doesn't really help matters that the obsession seems pretty much to come out of nowhere.

"But Steve, tell us how you REALLY feel about the characters?"

I do LOVE Roger, and Hoffman, and Dear Father.  I get amusement out of Angelexis so long as the script doesn't call for the character to get too psychotic.  At that point, I find myself wondering why someone in the group just doesn't stick a plastic baggie over her head while she's asleep.

grumping along,

Gothick

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:John Yeager...what can I say.
« on: July 16, 2003, 10:36:20 PM »
After reading KLS' diary from her experience making the first DS film, I have to wonder whether having to suffer through this storyline was how DC paid her back for her comments on his plans to have her new love interest on the show portrayed by Roger Davis (who played Maggie's boyfriend in the movie, but not on the series).

It all puts a new spin on KLS' decision to move to Paris shortly after this storyline!

G.

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Testing. 1, 2, 3... / Re:Batley and Friends?......
« on: July 16, 2003, 10:32:40 PM »
Thanks for mentioning about the 1969 DS fan club calendar; I'd never heard about that before.

I was gratified to see that on July 26, there will be a special picnic in a cemetery (it must be Eagle Hill, surely?).  That's my birthday.

G.

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Angelique of our own time band certainly had her fair share of incompetence.  The Dream Curse, apart from being poorly realized by the budget-strapped production crew, was unbelievably clunky and flaw-ridden.  As a junior witch, that whole fiasco she perpetrated with the ghost of Jeremiah was simply laughable.  It bothered me last Spring when I was watching 1795 and the writers simply DROPPED that whole storyline.  There was no explanation at all as to why the ghost stopped haunting Angelique--I got the feeling that DC simply got bored with it.

There were a lot of other instances in which poor judgement or sheer stupidity got her into trouble.  The way she handled Joe Haskell when she was a vampire wasn't just cruel; it was really quite boneheaded.  If she wanted him dead, she should have just done the job herself.

This kind of thing is why the insistence of so many fan writers upon depicting Angelique as "SuperWitch" used to drive me crazy back when I was still reading DS fanfic.  Even in 1840, Angelique didn't use her powers very expertly, when supposedly she had been wandering the world for 45 years and should have had the chance to work out the kinks.  I suspect her of having been one of those Witches so desperately convinced of her own innate superiority, she never bothered with magickal homework or the kind of exercises most Witches do to keep themselves on their toes.

G.

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:Beck Was On DS?
« on: July 15, 2003, 08:05:01 PM »
Hi Midnite, well, my jab at the lingering "detritus" from Switch-a-rama was really meant to be tongue in cheek.  But when I made this post, my ID was still showing up as Franimal, with a note about how s/he stole Gothick's identity.  As soon as I posted, it s/Witched back to showing me as Gothick.  Then as I was navigating the boards, I noticed that some folks showed up with the two handle formula (X whose ID was swiped by Y--excuse my vagueness, I lack the photographic level of recall displayed by some here) and others were showing up in the usual way.

I also note that the topics order is still inverted (with Current Talk at the bottom rather than the top of the main page), although the listing of posts appears to be back to the standard display format of having the original post at the top and the most recent responses at the bottom (which, really, saves a hell of a lot of mousing).

Also, the curse thing is still reversed, but I do believe that the IB stated that that was how it was going to remain.  Since I still don't "get" how that is supposed to work, I'm not going to be Curing anyone anymore.

Thanks for the cute shot of Ray Carlson.  What a sweetie.

Gothick

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Current Talk '03 II / Re:Beck Was On DS?
« on: July 15, 2003, 05:45:09 PM »
Hi John, this was an actor who played the guy from whom John Yeagar rented some property.  I can't figure out whether the episode has been screened yet on Sci Fi so I won't say more right now.  If no one else bothers to post the actor's name, I'll make a point to look it up when I get home tonight and post it here tomorrow.

I thought he was cute, and, judging from the tight trousers he was wearing, well endowed. Unfortunately he didn't have much to do on this one episode.

Gothick who's wondering when the detritus from Witch Switch week is going to get cleaned up here

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