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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2205 on: September 25, 2024, 06:56:06 PM »
Revisiting the subtitles/closed captioning for the scripted part of Scene 53:

...

After Quentin has mounted the horse and is about to leave the stable, suddenly Gerard actually says with a stutter, "I saw your w- -wife today." (though we currently have no idea of that because Scene 48, in which Gerard sees Tracy, is only in the 129 minute version) - and the closed captioning reflects that -


- but the subtitles do not -


- though the subtitles also include Quentin's response to which Gerard actually asks with a stutter, "Sh- -she rides, doesn't she?" - but neither the subtitles nor the closed captioning reflects the stutter -




More to come...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2206 on: September 25, 2024, 11:52:32 PM »
Revisiting the wrap up of the subtitles/closed captioning for the scripted part of Scene 53:

...

Apparently Quentin doesn't completely hear Gerard's question, so he actually asks, "What'd you say?" - but both the subtitles and the closed captioning have -




- though the subtitles also include Gerard repeating his question, but he actually stutters, "I,I,I said, 'She,She rides, doesn't she?'" - and the closed captioning also gets it wrong -


- and Quentin's answer to that is to first say a reworked version of what's scripted: "Yes, she does." - followed by an unscripted, "Come on," to the horse as he pulls the reins to start out - and then to conclude with a reworked version of the second part of what's scripted: "But not today." - and the subtitles reflect all of that -


- but the closed captioning doesn't acknowledge the "Come on" at all.

End of dialogue for the scene.

...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2207 on: September 26, 2024, 03:00:16 PM »
Revisiting some stills associated with Scene 53:

Before we move on to the next sequence in the slideshow, I have three things I'd like to share from the stable sequence:

A rare Quentin head shot:


(Click here for a 558X700 version)

A rare candid still:


(Click here for a 698X924 version)

And a very rare color shot of Gerard and the horse:


(Click here for a 700X1028 version)

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2208 on: September 26, 2024, 07:10:50 PM »
Revisiting how Scenes 54 through the beginning of Scene 56 appear in DC's script:

Setting up the current sequence/scene - and we've reached the first instance where Grayson's and DC's scripts differ. But first up we'll deal with the way things play in DC's script, which, probably not surprisingly, is the way they mostly appear in the film:

54     EXT - MEADOW - DAY - LONG LENS                                 54

       Quentin is not having an easy time of it.
       Ulysses is far from a rocking chair.

                                                DISSOLVE TO:

55     EXT - FIELD - NEAR A PATCH OF TREES - DAY                      55

       Quentin and the horse have finally come to terms and he is
       now enjoying himself.  Suddenly, as if it were being
       carried he hears the DISTANT SOUND OF CHURCH BELLS
       TOLLING.  The horse begins to react badly as Quentin,
       totally confused, rides closer to the trees looking for
       the source of the sound.  It is then that we realize that
       the old family cemetery is on the other side of the trees.

       QUENTIN - CLOSE-UP

       He has stopped the horse, and, although it is a cool
       sunny day, his face is bathed with perspiration.  It is
       obvious he is experiencing something.  TRUCK IN TO HIS
       EXTREME CLOSE-UP and then

                                                  CUT TO:

56     QUENTIN'S P.O.V. - EXT CEMETERY - 1810 - DAY                   56
       SUBCONSCIOUS MEMORY CUT

       The wind blows the empty branches, the rain pours down
       on the assembly standing in front of the mausoleum.
       Silhouetted below the cemetery is the black hearse.  The
       six pallbearers carry the coffin up the hill toward the
       mausoleum.




56     CONTD                                               CONTD       56

       ANOTHER ANGLE

       The Reverend Strack stands at the head of the coffin outside
       the mausoleum.  Gabriel, Laura, Mrs. Castle, and her small
       daughter, Sarah, stand with other family and friends watching.
       Sarah is the only one crying as she fingers a locket.


And that's when today's quote -

Page 20A/Scene 56 - Strack: 'Dust...to dust...ashes to ashes. Oh Lord, we beseech you to have pity on this sinner...for we all sin, knowing the mercy of our heavenly Father. So we commend to Him the flesh and spirit of Angelique Collins, beloved wife of Gabriel, loyal and loving sister-in-law to Laura.'

- comes up.

And though there are differences between the way DC's and Grayson Hall's scripts are written, there aren't any notations in either for this sequence.

And as for any differences in the dialogue, Strack actually says "Oh Lord, we beseech Thee to have mercy on this sinner" and later "And so we commend to Thee the flesh and spirit of Angelique Collins".

And as for what is different when it comes to the directions and descriptions, Scene 54 does not appear in the film as it currently stands - the horse doesn't have any reaction to the bells in Scene 55, so perhaps it's only Quentin who hears them - and Quentin's face is not bathed in perspiration, but his face does take on an extremely shocked expression as the camera trucks in on his extreme close-up - and there are only four pallbearers in Scene 56 - and while Sarah is crying, we do not see her fingering the locket, which is too bad because it would have definitely added to the scene.

And the next post will deal with the way everything up to where we left off in the sequence originally played out in Grayson's earlier version of the script...

 [pointing-up] And as far as "today's quote" goes, it was September 25th this time around.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2209 on: September 26, 2024, 10:20:10 PM »
Revisiting Grayson's script's version of Scenes 54 through the beginning of Scene 56:

...

54     EXT - MEADOW - DAY - LONG LENS                    54

       Quentin is not having an easy time of it.
       Ulysses is far from a rocking chair.

                                             DISSOLVE TO:

55     EXT - FIELD - NEAR A PATCH OF TREES - DAY         55

       Quentin and the horse have finally come to terms
       and he is now enjoying himself.  Suddenly, as if
       it were being carried on the wind, he hears
       the DISTANT SOUND OF A DRONING VOICE.
                             STRACK'S
                             TRASK'S VOICE
                 Dust to dust ... ashes to ashes
                 ... Oh Lord, have pity on this
                 sinner ... for we all sin,
                 knowing the mercy of our
                 heavenly Father ...

       The horse begins to react badly as Quentin,
       totally confused, rides closer to the trees
       looking for the source of the voice. - It is then
       that we realize that the old family cemetery
       is on the other side of the trees.

       QUENTIN - CLOSE-UP

       He has stopped the horse, and, although it is a
       cool sunny day, his face is bathed with perspir-
       ation.  It is obvious he is experiencing some-
       thing.  TRUCK IN TO HIS EXTREME CLOSE-UP and then

                                             CUT TO:




56     EXT - CEMETERY - 1810 - DAY                       56
       SUBCONSCIOUS MEMORY CUT
                                         Strack
       It is raining hard.  The Reverend Trask leads a
       procession of FOUR MEN and GABRIEL as they carry
       the coffin toward the family mausoleum.  SAMANTHA,LAURA
       MRS. CASTLE, and her small daughter, SARAH, all
       carrying umbrellas, stand with other family
       friends watching.  Sarah is the only one crying.
       Gabriel opens the mausoleum.
                             STRACK
                             TRASK
                 So we commend to Thee the flesh
                 and spirit of Angelique Collins,
                 beloved wife of Gabriel.

       CAMERA PANS to Gabriel.
                                         Laura
                 Loyal sister-in-law to Samantha...


And that's it for now.

Notice how:
  • Grayson script actually says "Suddenly, as if it were being carried on the wind, he hears", as opposed to DC's script which is oddly missing the part about the wind and simply says "Suddenly, as if it were being carried he hears".
  • The sound of the bell was originally Trask's/Strack's voice.
  • Trask/Strack was originally supposed to lead the funeral procession of four pallbearers (the same number as in the film, as opposed to the six in DC's script) and GABRIEL as they carry the coffin toward the mausoleum.
  • Originally Trask/Strack's "Oh Lord, we beseech you to have pity on this sinner" didn't include the "we beseech you to" part (though, as I mentioned in the previous post, there are even further changes in the film).
  • There's no mention of Sarah fingering the locket.
  • Gabriel was originally supposed to open the mausoleum before Trask/Strack was even finished with his prayer.
  • Trask/Strack was originally supposed to say "we commend to Thee the flesh and spirit of Angelique Collins", as he does in the film.
  • The part about Angelique being a "loving" sister-in-law to Samantha/Laura wasn't originally there - but thankfully they added it because that makes Laura's subsequent reaction (which we'll get into tomorrow) all the better!

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2210 on: September 27, 2024, 03:06:10 PM »
Revisiting what Darren Gross wrote on his Restoration Web site regarding Scene 54:

Quote
A selection of scenes cut from the 129-minute version that have been recovered:

...

The horse Quentin rides bucks wildly, trying to throw him off.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2211 on: September 27, 2024, 07:02:22 PM »
Revisiting the subtitles/closed captioning for Scene 55:

... even though there is no dialogue for Scene 55, there is a subtitle and a closed captioning because surprisingly enough both acknowledge the sound of the bell -




- and as we know, sounds aren't always something they acknowledge, even when they're important plot points - what is interesting, though, is how they acknowledge the sound of the bell at different points in the sequence, with the closed captioning coming up earlier...

...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2212 on: September 27, 2024, 11:36:30 PM »
Revisiting another post worth noting:

Before we move on from Quentin's ride and the funeral vision, I have a batch of rare stills to share - first up, two of Quentin:


(Click here for a 700X684 version)


(Click here for a 700X473 version)

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2213 on: September 28, 2024, 05:06:36 PM »
Revisiting another still related to Scene 55:

...

... a still ... that appears on page 155 of the DS Almanac Millennium Edition


And again I'm actually surprised it scanned as well as it did (which is also the case with the still I shared in Reply #343) because it's only about 1 1/4 inches by 2 1/8 inches on the page...

...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2214 on: September 28, 2024, 07:06:00 PM »
...

And a post worth revisiting:

Here's a photo that I neglected to share from Scene 55:


(Click here for a 830X546 version)

And I say, "photo," rather than, "still," because to me it seems like it was created from an actual frame of the film. I doubt it's a screen capture because the color, especially the background, is so off. That sort of thing can definitely happen to old film, but it's not too likely that screen capturing software would capture something that far off. I mean, my screen capturing software came up with this from the VHS:


...

Something apart from the Laser being clearer, the background is basically the same coloring but the skin tone is much better. Interesting...


And back to a still version that's worth revisiting:

...

Something I rediscovered ..., a still from Scene 55, Quentin sees a vision of Angelique's funeral:


...

...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2215 on: September 28, 2024, 10:40:18 PM »
Revisiting one of the, if not the first still shot from the film, which not only is associated with the beginning of Scene 56, but you will recall is still #1 in the NoDS Editor's Portfolio:

...


(Click here for a 672X543 version)

...

It was also the main still used for this Mexican Lobby Card -


(Click here for a 944X700 version)

- as well as the back cover for both versions of the NoDS Herald -




- and if you can't make out what the caption under the photo says, it's:

ZOMBIELIKE MOURNERS TRAMP THE SAD LONELINESS OF THE
COLLINWOOD CEMETERY AS ANGELIQUE'S COFFIN IS DELIVERED TO A FINAL RESTING PLACE

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2216 on: September 29, 2024, 04:36:16 PM »
After I posted the above post yesterday it occurred to me that like the still of Thayer David/Strack in the cemetery, I wondered if any recognizable gravestones had been used in that still? So, I dug out my copy of the still and examined the gravestones with a magnifying glass. Most of them had no real identifying markings on them, but one definitely surprised me: PT Angelique's gravemarker is prominently placed right in the front on the far right side of the still!! In most of the scans of the still that I have, one can't really read it, but I did my own scan where it's definitely readable -


- and a shot of it from PT Ep #988 -


Now, I'm guessing the prominent placement of it was probably done as an inside joke. But pushing that aside, having a gravestone of a PT character who lived/died in the 20th century in a scene that takes place in the 19th century could have way too many twists/possible implications to even begin to speculate about. Though, because of the rain, at least it isn't really dicernible in the actual footage of the funeral flashback in the film, not even in the not color corrected, clearer than VHS, Laser version.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2217 on: September 29, 2024, 05:34:26 PM »
Revisiting how the rest of DC'd dcripte for Scene 56 is written along with Scenes 57 & 58:

Continuing with DC's script's version of Scene 56, as well as Scenes 57 & 58:

       TRUCK IN ON LAURA

       She begins to laugh, lowly at first.  Gabriel grabs
       her hand but her laughter grows as Strack continues.


And that's when today's first quote -

Page 20A/Scene 56 - Strack: 'Angelique Collins has departed this life for a far better one - a world without tears or pain.'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

       Laura's laughter builds.  Gabriel, tight-lipped, holds
       her in a vise-like grip.  Sarah tries to run to stop her.
       Mrs. Castle restrains her.  Strack looks hard at Laura.
       She stops laughter.

       ANOTHER ANGLE

       Strack nods to Pallbearers, who pick up the coffin.  They
       all watch as the Old Caretaker opens the gate.


And that's when today's second quote -

Page 20A/Scene 56 - Strack: (loudly, trying to top the laughter) 'And so we commend her spirit to a just and forgiving God. Amen.'

- comes up, followed by script continuing with:

       They carry the coffin into the mausoleum.

57     EXT - CEMETERY - 1971 - DAY - NORMAL COLOR                     57

       The sun is shining again and all is quiet.  The CAMERA is
       shooting from the other side of the deserted cemetery and
       Quentin can be seen still sitting on his horse on the other
       side of the trees.  START A SLOW ZOOM IN AS HE SHAKES HIS
       HEAD IN BEWILDERMENT.  Finally, he decides to take a closer
       look.  He tries to spur his horse forward but he won't
       move.  All of a sudden, it rears on its hind legs and with
       a whinny of fear wildly gallops off in the opposite direc-
       tion as Quentin tried futilely to control him.




58     EXT - ROAD - DAY                                               58

       as the horse and Quentin charge into view  The
       horse moving sideways and out of control, is
       thundering toward the road.  Suddenly, a car




58     CONTD                                               CONTD      58

       driven by CLAIRE JENKINS ENTERS THE SHOT just as
       the horse runs into the road.  She slams on her
       brakes.  The horse rears and as they almost
       collide, Quentin finally regains control.

                             CLAIRE
                 Quentin!


End of scene and end of sequence.

And again, though there are differences between the way DC's and Grayson Hall's scripts are written, there aren't any notations in either for this sequence.

And as for any differences in the dialogue, Strack actually says "Angelique Collins has departed this life for a far better world - a world without sorrow ... or pain" - and he directs the "or pain" part at Laura, which stops her laughter, so he doesn't need to say his next lines loudly to try to top her laughter.

And as for the differences when it comes to the directions and descriptions, we don't actually see Gabriel grab Laura's hand to stop her from laughing, but he does shake her - and we don't see Sarah attempt to run to stop Laura from laughing, so we also don't see Mrs. Castle restrain her, however, briefly, as the following capture shows -


- we do see both Mrs. Castle and Sarah look over at Laura as she laughs - and rather than nodding to the pallbearers, Strack simply steps out of the way as the caretaker opens the gate to the mausoleum and enters as the pallbearers begin to follow him - and from that point almost nothing plays as scripted because with Scene 57 we simply Quentin looking over in shock, then he rides the still quite tame horse over to the opening in the fence to the cemetery, dismounts, ties off the horse, and goes inside and begins to walk toward the mausoleum - and with Scene 58 we simply see Claire driving her car along the road, coming to a stop when she apparently sees Quentin, and then waving and calling out to him - after which Quentin turns in her direction as he stands at the gate to the mausoleum and then waves back - to which Claire motions him over - and after a look back at the gate, Quentin backs away and then turns to leave the cemetery.

And my next post will pick up where we left off yesterday and will deal with the remainder of the ways the sequence differs in Grayson's earlier version of the script...

 [pointing-up]  And as far as "today's" quotes go, they were September 26th this time around.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2218 on: September 29, 2024, 09:34:16 PM »
Revisiting Grayson's script's version of the rest of Scene 56 and beyond:

...

                       Laura
       CAMERA PANS to Samantha.  She begins to laugh,
       lowly at first, Gabriel grabs her hand, but her
       laughter grows.  She is hysterical.  Trask Strack
       stares at her, in panic, as the child tries to
       run and stop her, but Mrs. Castle restrains her.
       Finally, her laughter fades as Trask continues.
                             Strack   Strack
                             TRASK
                 And so we commend her spirit
                 to a just and forgiving God.
                 Amen.

       They carry the coffin into the mausoleum.

57     EXT - CEMETERY - 1971 - DAY - NORMAL COLOR        57

       The sun is shining again and all is quiet.  The
       CAMERA is shooting from the other side of the
       deserted cemetery and Quentin can be seen still
       sitting on his horse on the other side of the
       trees.  START A SLOW ZOOM IN AS HE SHAKES HIS
       HEAD IN BEWILDERMENT.  Finally, he decides to
       take a closer look.  He tries to spur his horse
       forward but he won't move.  All of a sudden, it
       rears on its hind legs and with a whinny of fear
       wildly gallops off in the opposite direction as
       Quentin tried futilely to control him.

58     EXT - ROAD - DAY                                  58

       as the horse and Quentin charge into view  The
       horse moving sideways and out of control, is
       thundering toward the road.  Suddenly, a car




58     CONTD                                    CONTD    58

       driven by CLAIRE JENKINS ENTERS THE SHOT just as
       the horse runs into the road.  She slams on her
       brakes.  The horse rears and as they almost
       collide, Quentin finally regains control.

                             CLAIRE
                 Quentin!


Notice that:
  • Missing from Grayson's script is Strack's "Angelique Collins has departed this life for a far better one - a world without tears or pain."
  • Her script refers to Laura as becoming "hysterical," which DC's does not.
  • Her script, unlike DC's, also refers to Trask/Strack staring at Samantha/Laura in a panic as Sarah tries to run and stop Samantha/Laura from laughing.
  • And in her script there's no reference to Trask/Strack nodding to the pallbearers, who then pick up the coffin.
  • And, of course, there's no need in her script for the caretaker to open the gate to the mausoleum because Gabriel has already opened it.
So that's all for now. However, part of Scene 59 also differs in Grayson's and DC's scripts - but more on that once we get to it...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #2219 on: September 29, 2024, 09:48:02 PM »
Another post regarding the beginning of Scene 56 that's worth revisiting:

... when it came time for the Fest's 1999 Movie Calendar to pick something from Scene 56 for its July 28th quote, it picked one from the original version of the script and not DC's updated version:


NoDS: Scene #56 - Strack: 'So we commend to Thee the flesh
 and spirit of Angelique Collins, beloved wife of Gabriel.

And while for years I was thrilled to have the VHS copy of NoDS, these days I can barely look at it after now having the Blu-ray version of the film:


 [nods]