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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1875 on: June 08, 2024, 07:08:44 PM »
Maybe it was the seller's mom or dad who did that. Especially since Diana Millay's name is misspelled Dianna. Those errors are still common today, even with spell check.

Hmm, I've never thought of that. And maybe those five actors were the ones working the day Karlen gave the script.

Quite possibly you've explained it, Uncle Roger.  [ghost_smiley]  But at any rate, it's at least a good theory.

What's funny, though, is I don't think I've ever noticed that whoever wrote the names also spelled Diana wrong. I guess the shock of seeing Grayson spelled "Gracine" completely blinded me to that...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1876 on: June 08, 2024, 07:20:04 PM »
And again I did the same thing, so we need to revisit this post:

Oops, I forgot to mention yesterday that both DC and Grayson made notes in their scripts, although, as is sometimes the case, not all of them were followed through on in the film. For example DC writes at length about how he's going to shoot Quentin in profile as Alex exits - didn't happen, or at least it wasn't used in the final edit - and he's going to use a zoom and a whip pan while shooting Alex' exit - also didn't happen, and considering how the exit plays in the film, it's hard to imagine that it was shot that way but not used. And when it comes to Grayson, she writes once again that Carlotta has won, and also adds that Gerard takes all his order from Carlotta.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1877 on: June 08, 2024, 07:26:13 PM »
Dianna is a fairly common variation of Diana, so it probably didn't stick out. But Gracine? That doesn't make any sense phonetically or otherwise.
Still, we've all seen some unique spellings over the years. My favorite is one of the hardcore Barnabas devotees who repeatedly refer to him as Jonathan Fried.
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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1878 on: June 09, 2024, 12:10:00 AM »
Revisiting how the beginning of Scene 192 is scripted:

Beginning the next scene:



192    INT - CARD ROOM - NIGHT                            192

       as Carlotta crosses to Quentin.  Gerard, unnoticed in
       the B.G., can be seen moving off down the hall.  As
       Quentin lifts his glass to drink, he suddenly reacts
       to the sight of his hand.

       QUENTIN'S HAND - HIS P.O.V.

       Raw scratch marks can be seen on his wrist and the
       back of his hand.  WIDEN as he quickly puts down the
       glass and pulls his sleeve up, revealing the same
       kind of scratches on the other arm.

       QUENTIN - CLOSE-UP

       as he stares at the raw marks.

                             QUENTIN
                 He was telling the truth, wasn't
                 he?


And that's when today's first quote -

Page 92/Scene 192 - Carlotta: 'You did it for her -- for Angelique.'

- comes up, followed by today's second quote -

Page 92/Scene 192 - Quentin (as it sinks in): 'I tried to kill my wife --'

- coming up.

And when it comes to the dialogue, believe it or not, everything covered is delivered as scripted.

However, when it comes to the descriptions and directions, of course there are differences. Apparently the script means that Gerard goes unnoticed by Quentin as he can be seen moving off down the hall because Carlotta -


- certainly notices him (but you know what's funny - despite the fact that Carlotta looks right at him, I don't know if I ever noticed that Gerard can be seen at the outset of Scene 192, and it could be because my attention is normally fixed on Quentin) - and Quentin actually reacts to the sight of scratches on his wrist, and only one -



- at that because, as can be seen in the top capture directly above, there are no scratches on the back of Quentin's hand, and unlike what's scripted, Quentin doesn't quickly put down his glass, nor does he pull his sleeve up to reveal the same kind of scratches on the other arm - and after he notices the scratches on his right wrist, he turns to Carlotta -


- before he actually puts his glass down and then declares to Carlotta that Alex was telling the truth - and Carlotta nods in the affirmative before she tells Quentin that he did it for Angelique.

Also, there's one note in Grayson's script in which she writes that Quentin shouldn't be upset because he did a good thing for Angelique. And there's another in which she says Carlotta will touch the scratches and stroke them, but as we know, she doesn't actually do that...

 [pointing-up]  And as far as "today's" quotes go, they were on June 5th this time around.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1879 on: June 09, 2024, 02:48:12 PM »
Revisiting how more of Scene 192 is scripted:

...

       He turns away and then slowly crosses to the other
       end of the room.  Suddenly, he realizes that some-
       thing is happening.


And that's when the first part of today's first quote -

Page 92/Scene 192 - Quentin: 'Where's Gerard?'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

She hesitates.

And that's when the second part of today's first quote -

Page 92/Scene 192 - Quentin: 'Where is he?'

- comes up, followed by today's second quote -

Page 92/Scene 192 - Carlotta: 'Doing what you know must be done.'

- coming up, followed in the script by:

            QUENTIN
Oh, no!


And when it comes to what's different with the dialogue, Carlotta actually says "Doing what you know has to be done" - to which Quentin only reacts with "No!".

And when it comes to the differences in the descriptions and directions, rather than Quentin turning away from Carlotta, Carlotta actually turns away from Quentin -


- and looks down before Quentin moves past her to the other end of the room. And I do love how David Selby plays Quentin's anguish after realizing he tried to kill Tracy -


- and before Quentin notices Gerard is gone.

And once again there are notes in Grayson's script. This time she writes that Carlotta does so with pride when she tells Quentin that Gerard is doing what has to be done - and that Carlotta can be strong enough for the both of them.

 [pointing-up]  And so far as "today's" quotes go, they were on June 6th this time around.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1880 on: June 09, 2024, 10:32:26 PM »
Revisiting a post related to the latest script posting:

As you may have noticed, today's second quote in the slideshow was scripted to be -

...

... followed by today's second quote -

Page 92/Scene 192 - Carlotta: 'Doing what you know must be done.'

- coming up, ...

...

- yet in the film it's delivered as -


- which is sacrilege, I tell you! SACRILEGE!! How could Grayson, who delivered who knows how many "must" lines in the daytime show (we've already quoted her characters 82 times in the MUST Slideshow - one more is coming up tomorrow - and we already know of numerous others that we haven't used yet) have possibly ever decided to turn her back on a quintessential "must" line?! And one that was written by her own husband at that?!

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1881 on: June 10, 2024, 02:50:04 PM »
Revisiting how the end of Scene 192 is scripted:

Concluding the current scene, beginning with Quentin's next reaction to Carlotta telling him that Gerard is doing what has to be done:

       Quickly, he starts toward the hall, where he suddenly
       stops, looking up at the first floor landing.  WHIP
       PAN to reveal Angelique, now more real than ever, as
       she stares down at him.




192    CONTD                                       CONTD  192

And that's when today's quote -

Page 93/Scene 192 - Quentin: 'I am not Charles Collins. I will not allow them to be hurt.'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

       They stare at each other for a minute and then Quentin
       turns and runs out.


And when it comes to differences in the dialogue, Quentin actually says "I am not Charles Collins. And I'm not going to allow them to be hurt."

And when it comes to differences in the descriptions and directions, there is no whip pan to reveal Angelique because the camera simply cuts to her on the landing  (and it's very interesting that the script makes a point of saying that Angelique is now more real than ever) - and after Quentin tells Angelique that he's not going to allow Tracy, Alex, and Claire to be hurt, he and Angelique are not seen staring at each other for a minute, nor does Quentin turn and run out, though it does seem as if Quentin might have been about to run out after he warns Angelique, but things actually cut to Scene 193...

Also, as an aside, for the original slideshow for NoDS, I actually used the following shot of Angelique -


NoDS: Scene #192 - Quentin: 'I am not Charles Collins. And
I'm not going to allow them to be hurt.'

- for today's lines because she is actually on screen during the "I am not Charles" portion of Quentin's lines.

 [pointing-up]  And so far as "today's quote" goes, it was on June 7th this time around.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1882 on: June 11, 2024, 03:20:32 PM »
Revisiting subtitles/closed captioning for Scene 192:

When it comes to Scene 192, the subtitles get everything right. I've lost track when the last was when that happened. But not so much luck when it comes to the closed captioning. Although, the discrepancy doesn't pop up until the very last line in the scene:

After Quentin is confronted with evidence that he did indeed try to drown Tracy, Carlotta says he did for Angelique, he realizes Gerard is gone and asks where he is, and Carlotta says he's off doing what has to be done, Quentin tells Angelique's ghost, "I am not Charles Collins. And I'm not going to allow them to be hurt." - but when it comes to the second half of that, the closed captioning has -


- and what's a bit interesting about that is you may have noticed the line was scripted to be "I will not allow them to be hurt," and "won't" is the contraction version of "will not," so once again it's like the closed captioning and/or subtitles take and/or rework something from the script rather than what's actually said in the film...

Also, Scene 192 is another that the call sheet indicates was shot on April 5, 1971.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1883 on: June 11, 2024, 06:02:14 PM »
Revisiting how Scenes 193 through 196 are scripted:

Before we get into today's quote, we have several other scenes to deal with:

193    EXT - ROAD - COLLINWOOD GROUNDS - NIGHT            193

       As Alex' car comes ROARING TOWARD CAMERA.

194    INT - ALEX' CAR - NIGHT                            194

       The anxiety shows in his face as he recklessly pushes
       the car in an effort to get home as quickly as possible.
       Suddenly he hits the brake and swerves out of control
       as he is blinded by enormous lights on the road ahead.

195    EXT - ROAD - NIGHT                                 195

       Gerard sits in his jeep, parked in the middle of the
       road.  Alex' car can be seen in the B.G. careening
       through the underbrush by the side of the road.

       INT - GERARD'S JEEP - NIGHT

       as Gerard, throwing the jeep into gear, ROARS OFF
       after him.

196    SERIES OF SHOTS                                    196

       As Gerard proceeds to constantly harass Alex by ramming
       the rear of his car and sideswiping him.

       EXT - RAVINE - NIGHT

       as the two cars come careening TOWARD CAMERA, Gerard's
       jeep finally pulls alongside Alex' car.  Then, with
       one quick move, viciously side-swiping him, sending
       Alex' car off the road through the trees, down the
       rocky ravine.


End of sequence.

And even though there is no scripted dialogue, during what's presumably Scene 195, Alex ad libs -


"Son of a bitch."

And as far as differences in the descriptions and directions go, in the film we actually see Gerard earlier than in the script because after we see Alex in his car, in what could presumably be a Scene 194A, we see that, unlike how Scene 195 describes his first appearance in the sequence, Gerard has hidden his truck -


- by the side of a building and is lying in wait for Alex -


- with a devilish smile on his face - and when it comes to Scene 195, Alex' car doesn't actually go off into the underbrush at the side of the road because Alex is able to swerve out of Gerard's way and remain -


- on the road - however, after that, Gerard does manage to pull out in front of Alex (which is what prompts Alex to call Gerard a son of a bitch) and -



- force Alex' car off of the road - but Alex does manage to get back on the road, and after that is when, in Scene 196, Gerard pulls up behind him to ram the rear of Alex car, to sideswipe (and, yes, the script does indeed misspell sideswipe once by making it hyphenated) him, and then eventually to force him off the road, though not into a rocky ravine -



- but to crash into a tree.

And finally, I wonder if we should read anything into the fact that Gerard couldn't seem to keep his hand off his gearshift during these scenes?  [cheesyb]

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1884 on: June 12, 2024, 12:04:16 AM »
Revisiting the subtitles/closed captioning for some unscripted dialogue:

There is no scripted dialogue for Scenes 193 through 196, which is why they aren't a part of the slideshow, which will begin featuring Scene 197 tomorrow. But apparently John Karlen couldn't resist offering Alex' thought on Gerard's actions in Scene 195 - and both the subtitles and the closed captioning reflect it:




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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1885 on: June 12, 2024, 04:02:04 PM »
Revisiting how Scene 197 is scripted and added to:

...

                                              CUT TO:
197    INT - COTTAGE LIVING ROOM - NIGHT                  197

       Tracy sits nearest the fire, still somewhat wet from
       her pool experience.  Claire is nervously pacing about.

                             CLAIRE
                 Oh, God, when is he coming back?




197    CONTD                                       CONTD  197

       She suddenly stops and listens.  Tracy looks up, is
       about to say something.  Claire raises her hand.

                             CLAIRE
                 Sh --

       Tracy gets up, crosses to her.


And that's when yesterday's quote -

Page 94/Scene 197 - Claire: 'I heard something outside.'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

      Claire crosses to the desk, quietly opens the drawer,
      removes a pistol, as Tracy looks at her.

                            TRACY
                What are you going to do?


And that's when today's quote -

Page 94/Scene 197 - Claire: 'Alex told me to shoot anyone who came through that door.'

- comes up.

And as far as the differences in the dialogue go, Claire drops the "Oh" from the "Oh, God" part of her first line - and then in some bits of unscripted dialogue, Claire asks Tracy -


"How are you feeling?"

- to which Tracy replies -


"Well, I'm better... Still a little cold."

- and when Tracy begins to say -


"Claire, do--?"

 -but Claire shushes her, Tracy whispers -


"What's the matter?"

- and rather than delivering the second quote, Claire actually says "Alex told me to shoot anyone that tries to come in here."

And as far as differences in the descriptions and directions go, rather than seeing Claire pacing the cottage's Living Room, we see her enter the Living Room -


- from the direction of the Bedroom - and we don't see that Tracy is sitting near the fire until after Claire gets further into the Living Room - and after Claire shushes Tracy, as we can see in the captures above, Tracy remains sitting on the arm of the chair - it isn't until after Claire says that she heard something and begins to move closer to the front of the cottage that Tracy stands -


- and follows somewhat behind Claire until Claire goes to retrieve the pistol from the desk and then returns, whereupon, as we can see in today's capture -


- Tracy comes over to her.

[pointing-up]  And as far as "yesterday's quote" goes, it was on June 8th this time around, and when it comes to "today's" quote and capture, they were on June 9th.

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1886 on: June 12, 2024, 08:14:46 PM »
And once again I forgot to revisit them:

Oops - I forgot that once again I wanted to share these rare stills associated with Scene 192:

Continuing with Angelique on the stairs shots, here's a rare version:


(Click here for a 532X700 version)


...

...

And I know for certain that I have a still of the following rare version, but for the life of me I couldn't find it today even though I had in in my hand just last week when I was searching through things. But for now I'll post this magazine version -


(Click here for a 1037X826 version)

- and then replace it after I actually do come across the still again...

I still have yet to come across it. Though since originally posting the magazine version, I was able to do a better scan and I've replaced the original scan with it. And speaking of the magazine, the scan is also part of the Daytime TV article that I've shared a few rare photos from - and something I didn't do originally is share the caption the magazine provided, so here it is:

And the Daytime TV caption reads: "Lara Parker, as the spirit of Angelique,
appears on the stairs to the tower of
the mansion of Collinwood, her home."

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1887 on: June 13, 2024, 12:00:10 AM »
Revisiting the subtitles/close captioning for the start of Scene 197:

At the beginning of Scene 197 Claire wonders out loud when Alex is coming back, and after that begins a string of unscripted dialogue that starts off with Claire asking Tracy, "How are you feeling?" - and both the closed captioning -


- and the subtitles -


- reflect that, though the subtitles also jump up to Tracy replying, "Oh, I'm better." - and the closed captioning -


- also reflects that - and then Tracy adds to that, "Still a little cold." - and that's reflected in the subtitles -


- though the closed captioning -


- prefaces it with an "I'm" which Tracy doesn't actually say - and it's interesting that the closed captioning adds something because normally things get dropped.

To be continued...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1888 on: June 13, 2024, 03:22:12 PM »
Revisiting more of the subtitles/closed captioning for the start of Scene 197:

Picking up where we left off, as the closed captioning indicates, Tracy begins to say -


- as well as in the subtitles -


- though, while the subtitles don't include the "you," they do jump ahead to Claire's scripted "Shh." - and speaking of the script it's interesting that Tracy doesn't get to actually say anything before Claire shushes her after she begins to listen more carefully - and after her shushing Tracy whispers an unscripted, "What's the matter?" - and that is reflected in both the subtitles -


- and the closed captioning -


- and after that is when today's scripted quote -

Page 94/Scene 197 - Claire: 'I heard something outside.'

- comes up in the scene.

More to come...

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Re: Happy 50th Anniversary, Night of Dark Shadows
« Reply #1889 on: June 13, 2024, 06:28:16 PM »
Revisiting more of the subtitles/closed captioning for Scene 197:

Picking up where we left off, after Claire delivered yesterday's quote, she moves closer to the window and then moves behind her to the desk to get a gun, and then Tracy asks, "What are you gonna do?" - and the subtitles reflect that - however, once again the closed captioning -


- corrects the grammar - and what's interesting is what the closed captioning indicates Tracy says is what she's scripted to say - and after that is when today's scripted quote -

Page 94/Scene 197 - Claire: 'Alex told me to shoot anyone who came through that door.'

- comes up in the scene.

More to come...

...

 [nods]