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Uncle Roger · « **Reply #510 on:** November 12, 2016, 09:15:52 PM »

Interesting that at no point neither Tracy nor Claire ever thinks about calling the police.

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #511 on:** November 13, 2016, 05:24:11 AM »

Well, maybe they would have thought of that if Gerard hadn't shown up. After Tracy asked what they should do, Claire might have said "I don't know. I know we hit him. Maybe we should call the police." But then, maybe they wanted to keep the police out of it because of how Quentin had tried to kill Tracy...

Uncle Roger · « **Reply #512 on:** November 13, 2016, 01:43:11 PM »

People in movies, especially horror movies, don't always behave rationally, so I guess that I shouldn't be surprised at how Tracy and Claire handle the situation.

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #513 on:** November 13, 2016, 09:20:14 PM »

Before we leave the previous sequence, I want to share a bit of trivia about how the shooting of Gerard was done. According to Director of Photography, Richard Shore, the production had to go to unusual means to accomplish it. Claire's gun was loaded with blanks (obviously - James Storm might have had just a slight problem with real bullets

) but they had to make it look like the bullet went through the window when Claire shot Gerard. So, believe it or not, just off-camera they had a crew member armed with a sling-shot and a b.b., they then placed a sheet of plexiglass in front of the window to protect Nancy Barrett from both the b.b. and the shattering glass, and then when the time came to shoot the gun, Nancy fired it, the crew member fired the b.b., thus shattering the glass, and finally James Storm took a rag soaked in stage blood and slapped it to his face. Voila!

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #514 on:** November 13, 2016, 09:40:56 PM »

Moving on to yesterday's scene - and as the graphic I put up for the slideshow indicated, it plays very differently in the film from the way it's scripted. First up, the scripted version:

201 EXT - RAVINE - NIGHT 201 as Quentin runs along the road toward CAMERA. He suddenly reacts at the sight of broken trees and ripped- up turf. RAVINE - QUENTIN'S P.O.V. There, in the ravine, Alex' car, almost demolished, lies on its side as Quentin ENTERS THE SHOT, climbing down the ravine toward it. EXT - CAR - NIGHT as Quentin approaches the car, Alex can be seen in fairly good shape, but trapped in the car. ALEX Quentin! as Quentin grasps the door CUT TO:

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #515 on:** November 13, 2016, 11:18:15 PM »

And now the way Scene 201 actually plays in the film:

The scene starts off similarly to what's scripted, with Quentin running through the grounds (not along the road) -

- and coming toward camera - then when he spots something (though not broken trees and ripped-up turf), he runs across the road in its direction and calls out -

"Alex!"

- and the camera pulls back to show Alex sitting on the ground (not trapped inside his car on its side) and propped up against his car (which has crashed into a tree earlier - not fallen down a ravine) -

- and smoking a cigarette - and when Quentin reaches him, obviously he doesn't have to grasp the car door to get Alex out, Quentin simply kneels beside Alex, who tells him -

"That crazy son of a bitch - he almost killed me."

- to which Quentin asks -

"Gerard?"

- and Alex answers -

"Yeah, Gerard."

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #516 on:** November 14, 2016, 06:40:21 PM »

Moving on to yesterday's scene. And as the graphic I put up for the slideshow indicated, it's a scene that does not appear in the film as it currently stands - however, it's not on the list of unrecovered footage - so, it, or some variation thereof, may very well be in the 129 minute version:

202 INT - COTTAGE - NIGHT 202 as Claire, lies sobbing on the floor. Her face is bruised, her hair disheveled. The room shows signs of a struggle. Suddenly O.S., the SOUND of the front door opens. As Claire looks up in fear, Quentin and Alex, a little worse for wear, ENTER. Alex quickly crosses to her as Quentin looks for Tracy. QUENTIN Where's Tracy?

And that's when yesterday's quote -

Page 96/Scene 202 - Claire: 'It's Gerard...he's got her. He tried to kill us...he tried to kill us...'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

203- 203- 205 OMIT OMIT 205

And as per usual, right now there's no way of knowing what might actually be different in the scene as it might appear in the 129 minute version of film...

And I do wonder what Scenes 203 through 205 might have been at one time. But I guess we'll never know...

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #517 on:** November 14, 2016, 11:48:16 PM »

Moving through the next several scenes before today's scene comes up:

206 EXT - RIVER ROAD - NIGHT 206 as the jeep APPROACHES CAMERA, it turns off its lights and parks in the cover of some trees. INT - JEEP - NIGHT as Gerard looks over at a terrified Tracy, she cringes

206 CONTD CONTD 206 from him against the door, her eyes luminous with fear. Then slowly moving toward her, he places his hand on her leg and starts running it up her thigh. Suddenly, she claws at him as he, growling like an animal, pulls her to him. Viciously he crushes his face to hers. During the ensuing struggle, he in- advertently hits the horn. 207 EXT - COUNTRYSIDE - NIGHT - QUENTIN 207 In their search they have split up. As Quentin, now alone, reacts to the DISTANT HORN, he looks about, then moves off in the direction of the SOUND. 208 INT - JEEP - NIGHT 208 as Tracy puts up a valiant struggle, Gerard suddenly reaches for the door. Opening it, he throws her out of the car and onto the ground. As she tries to scramble to her feet, he jumps on top of her. Then clutching her face with both his hands, he brutally forces his lips on hers. 209 EXT - COUNTRYSIDE - NIGHT 209 as Quentin runs through the night TOWARD CAMERA, he suddenly hears the SOUND OF TRACY'S SCREAMS O.S. He stops for an instant, looks around. 210 EXT - GROUND NEAR JEEP - NIGHT 210 Tracy is clawing at Gerard's face, as she screams. TRACY Help! Help! Gerard, grabbing one of her hands, viciously slaps her face. Then he suddenly reacts to the DISTANT SOUND OF QUENTIN'S VOICE. QUENTIN (O.S.) Where are you? Before she can answer, he clamps his hand over her mouth.

And as far as any difference in the dialogue goes, Tracy's "Help! Help!" is dropped because she simply screams - and rather than the scripted "Where are you?", Quentin actually calls out "Tracy! Tracy!"

And as far as any difference in the descriptions and directions goes, there's quite a bit different in the film. In scene 206, after Gerard pulls into the trees, shuts off the truck (again, not a jeep) and turns to her, Tracy tries to get out -

- of Gerard's truck but he pulls he back inside as she screams -

- prompting him to put his hand -

- over her mouth as he shushes her and growls, and then she -

- calms down (and at this point is when in the 97 and 129 minute versions of the film Gerard moves his hand down Tracy's thigh and toward her crotch) - and in Scene 207, we simply see Quentin come running down a path -

- after which he just stops -

- and looks around - and Scene 208 is nothing like scripted because it opens with Tracy and Gerard kissing (although, if I'm remembering correctly, in the longer versions we actually see Gerard remove his hand from her mouth, and as she quivers, he moves in to kiss her) -

- until Tracy can reach for and -

- push the horn - and then in Scene 209, Quentin actually reacts to hearing the horn in the distance and then he moves off -

- in its direction - and then Scene 210 is nothing like scripted because it begins with Gerard stopping Tracy from -

pushing the horn - after which Gerard grabs a screaming Tracy and once again puts -

- his hands over her mouth - and as Quentin runs through the countryside -

- calling out to Tracy, that gets the attention -

- of Gerard - and after Tracy makes a low moaning sound -

- Gerard shushes her again.

And unfortunately, because much of Gerard's part ended up on the cutting room floor, it remains mostly unclear in the film that the reason Gerard sets his sights on Tracy is because Quentin replaces him in Angelique's, uh, affections from the very first night that Quentin arrives at Collinwood.

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #518 on:** November 15, 2016, 11:36:22 PM »

Picking up the action with the next scene in the sequence:

211 QUENTIN - GERARD'S P.O.V. 211 As he runs TOWARD CAMERA, Quentin is a dark figure in the distance. He still does not see the car.

211 CONTD CONTD 211

And that's when yesterday's first quote -

Page 98/Scene 211 - Quentin (calling): 'Tracy!...Tracy...where are you?'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

GERARD - TRACY as Gerard still stifles the struggling Tracy, an evil smile spreads over his face. HOLD ON HIM as he watches Quentin. Suddenly, he lets Tracy go. Before she can utter a sound, he viciously slaps her face and leaps into the car.

And that's when yesterday's second quote -

Page 98/Scene 211 - Tracy (screaming): 'Quentin!'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

Simultaneously with this, Gerard throws on the lights, traping Quentin in their beam. Then, to the SOUND OF GRINDING GEARS, the car ROARS to life. Quickly, Quentin turns and runs as the car careens after him. Just as it is almost on him, he dives into a ditch as the car hurtles over him, plowing headlong into a stand of trees. As Quentin scrambles to his feet, he sees Gerard running toward the river. EXT - COUNTRYSIDE - TRACY as she runs in the direction of the action.

And as far as any difference in the dialogue goes, Quentin actually calls out "Tracy! Where are you?" - and rather than the scripted "Quentin!", Tracy actually shouts "Quentin, look out!" (and more on that below).

And as far as any difference in the descriptions and directions goes, because Tracy and Gerard are still in the jeep and not on the ground, Quentin is watched by Gerard through the jeep's -

- windshield - and Quentin actually comes to a stop and -

- desperately looks around - and the camera doesn't move to hold on Gerard as watches Quentin because it stays on a 2 shot -

- of both Tracy and Gerard - and unlike how the script indicates that suddenly Gerard lets Tracy go and before she can utter a sound, he viciously slaps her face and leaps into the car, what actually happens is that Gerard opens -

- the door of the jeep and shoves -

- a screaming Tracy out (which is better seen in this -

- rarely seen publicity shot) - and after that is when, as seen in yesterday's second capture, Quentin hears her -

- shout out the warning to him - and while we don't hear the sound of grinding gears as the jeep roars to life (even though DC has a note that Gerard would first hit the motor and then the lights), we do see the jeep's headlights, Gerard driving like -

- a maniac, Quentin's reaction to the jeep's lights coming at him (and yes, "trapping" is misspelled as "traping" in the script), Quentin running from the jeep and diving out of the way, the jeep plowing into a tree, a now terrified Gerard getting out of the jeep -

- and starting to run away, Quentin getting up and then running after Gerard, and Tracy running after them both.

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #519 on:** November 17, 2016, 12:26:38 AM »

And once again picking up the action with the next scene in the sequence:

212 EXT - RAILROAD FOOTBRIDGE - NIGHT 212 as Gerard runs TOWARD CAMERA, Quentin is in hot pursuit. When he reaches the middle of the bridge, Gerard stops and turns. Here is where he will make his stand. Quentin, now at the foot of the bridge, starts slowly toward him. GERARD - QUENTIN'S P.O.V. - HAND HELD TRUCK IN ON Gerard as suddenly we see he holds a vicious-looking knife. WIDE ANGLE With Gerard in the F.G., Quentin moves carefully toward him. Tracy appears in the B.G. near the foot of the bridge. 213 SERIES OF SHOTS - HAND-HELD 213 The two are only feet apart when Gerard lashes out.

213 CONTD CONTD 213 Quentin grabs his knife arm and the two begin their life or death struggle. THEIR FEET - CLOSE-UP Both sets of legs are grappling for a firm grip. Quentin steps backward. His foot collapses a rotten board. As his leg goes through, WIDEN to see Gerard gain the advantage. As he presses the knife downward at Quentin's chest, he is suddenly distracted by the SOUND OF TRACY'S VOICE.

And that's when yesterday's quote -

Page 99/Scene 213 - Tracy (O.S.) (screaming): 'Gerard!'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

As Gerard looks up, reacting, he starts to spring TOWARD CAMERA. It is too late. TRACY - CLOSE-UP as she swings a short piece of heavy wood directly into the LENS. GERARD - CLOSE-UP as he takes the blow full in the face, the force of it drives him backward. He hits the rickety bridge railing, falling through it toward the tracks below. 214 LOW ANGLE - UP AT THE BRIDGE 214 From the tracks, Gerard's body can be seen hurtling TOWARD CAMERA. Suddenly, it stops short, as if caught in mid-air by an invisible net. There is a huge flash of light and sparks fly everywhere -- silhouetting the spread-eagle body of Gerard as he burns to ashes on the high tension wires. 215 EXT - FOOTBRIDGE - NIGHT 215 as Quentin holds Tracy, Alex and Claire ENTER THE SHOT and cross to them. As Alex looks over the side at the smoldering remains of Gerard.

And that's when today's quote -

Page 99/Scene 215 - Alex: 'Well, it looks like the old BMT will be running late tonight.'

- comes up.

End of sequence.

And as far as any difference in the dialogue goes, Alex' remark about the train running late is dropped in current version of the film. I *think*it does appear in the 97 minute version. So, chances are it's also in the 129 minute version. However, DC's script has a note that Alex would actually say "Well, it looks like the old B and M will be running late tonight." ("B and M" stands for Boston and Maine.)

And as far as any difference in the descriptions and directions goes, unlike how Scene 212 is scripted to begin, Gerard only reaches the footbridge a very short time before Quentin and Tracy do, and as Gerard mounts the bridge Tracy actually tries to prevent -

- Quentin from pursuing Gerard onto the bridge, but Quentin soon pulls away from her - and the camera doesn't truck in on Gerard to show the knife because adter Geard pulls it out of the front waistband of his jeans (a dangerous place to hide a knife, if you ask me

), there's a close-up -

- of the knife - and obviously after that isn't when Tracy appears in the background near the foot of the bridge because she's already arrived - and in Scene 213 there are no close-ups of Gerard's and Quentin's feet as they struggle - and after Gerard gains the advantage because Quentin has broken a rotten board in the floor, Gerard doesn't actually press the knife downward at Quentin's chest because he presses it at -

- Quentin's face, and he actually cuts Quentin deep enough -

- for Quentin to bleed (shades of Charles' scar - and it's quite interesting how that wasn't scripted) - and it's after that the Gerard raises the knife to finish Quentin off -

- but of course Tracy thwarts that by wacking him with the heavy board - and while in Scene 214 we do see Gerard hurtling toward camera, we don't see Gerard suddenly stop short because his body doesn't get caught in any high tensions wires so, therefore, there is no huge flash of light and sparks and no silhouetting of Gerard's spread-eagle body as he burns to ashes - what we do see is Gerard simply plummet

- from the bridge - after which Quentin stands up and he and Tracy -

- stare down at Gerard's body on -

- the train tracks below - and in Scene 215 I don't know if what Quentin does next strictly qualifies as holding -

- Tracy - and after Claire and Alex arrive on the bridge and look down, it's more like Claire comforts Tracy as the two -

- women walk away, leaving Alex -

- with Quentin - and that's how the sequence currently ends - though if I remember correctly, in the 97 minute version, Alex does deliver his remark about the train and we see Gerard's body again, as in this shot from one of the NoDS trailers:

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #520 on:** November 17, 2016, 10:52:32 PM »

As a final word on Scene 213, I want to share two rare publicity stills:

Also, given some things that are written in the script and how Alex and Claire simply show up on the railroad bridge from out of nowhere, one might surmise that the omitted Scenes 203 through 205 could have dealt with Quentin and Alex and Claire deciding to split up to search for Tracy and/or perhaps even a bit of Gerard and Tracy before he pulls his truck into the trees. But if so, obviously at some point the scenes were deemed to be unimportant and/or to be slowing down the action. But as I said, I guess we'll never know...

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #521 on:** November 18, 2016, 08:48:44 PM »

Moving on to the current scene, and it's not on the list of unrecovered footage - so it may be in the 129 minute version:

216 EXT - RIVER ROAD - NIGHT 216 Quentin and Tracy are alone together for the first time since the drowning. Alex and Claire can be seen in the B.G. waiting for them. Tracy still sobs as he holds her, comforting her.

And that's when yesterday's quote -

Page 100/Scene 216 - Quentin: 'I'm sorry Trace. I'm sorry for everything that's happened.'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

Holding her, he kisses her eyes, her lips as they try to comfort each other.

And that's when today's quote -

Page 100/Scene 216 - Tracy: 'Oh, please, Quentin...please don't go back in that house.'

- comes up.

And as per usual, right now there's no way of knowing what might actually be different in the scene as it might appear in the 129 minute version of film...

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #522 on:** November 20, 2016, 09:12:02 PM »

Continuing with Scene 216:

He looks at her, trying to find a way to explain it.

And that's when yesterday's quote -

Page 100/Scene 216 - Quentin (softly): 'Tracy, try to understand the way I feel. I have such a tenuous hold on myself that --'

- comes up, followed by today's quote -

Page 100/Scene 216 - Tracy (interrupting): 'But you're all right now. You're all right.'

- coming up.

And as per usual, right now there's no way of knowing what might actually be different in the scene as it might appear in the 129 minute version of film...

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #523 on:** November 22, 2016, 07:02:32 PM »

Wrapping up Scene 216, beginning with yesterday's quote, Quentin's response to Tracy's latest lines -

Page 100/Scene 216 - Quentin: 'But I don't know how long I'll stay this way. There's only one way to end it. We've got to go back in there and face it down --'

- coming up, followed in the script by:

She nods. HOLD ON THIS as the two of them cross toward Alex and Claire.

And that's when today's first quote -

Page 100/Scene 216 - Tracy: 'What about Carlotta?'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

As Alex and Claire cross to meet them.

And that's when today's second quote -

Page 100/Scene 216 - Alex: 'I don't think we'll find her.'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

They all start up toward the house.

And as per usual, right now there's no way of knowing what might actually be different in the scene as it might appear in the 129 minute version of film. However, given the voiceover that is added to the next scene in the current version of the film, something *may* have changed with this scene, or the voiceover *may* have been added because Scene 216 was dropped. But one thing is certain, the closing dialogue in Scene 216 and the added voiceover in Scene 217 can't both exist in the 129 minute version of the film because they contradict. But more on that when we deal with Scene 217...

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #524 on:** November 22, 2016, 10:50:45 PM »

Moving on to the next scene, which is something of a rarity in this section of the script because it does actually appear in the current version of the film, though not entirely as scripted:

217 INT - TOWER ROOM - NIGHT 217 The room is in darkness and through the window, as if someone is watching, the four of them can be seen approaching the house. Then RACK FOCUS to Carlotta in the EXTREME F.G. as she stands there looking down at them. As they EXIT THE SHOT below, Carlotta turns away in thought. TIGHTEN TO CARLOTTA'S EXTREME CLOSE- UP.

And obviously, when it comes to the scene as scripted, there's no sort of dialogue whatsoever. However, in the film as it currently stands, a Quentin voiceover was added after the marathon editing session, and it plays as follows:

"Alex..."

"...you know there's only one way we're going to end
all of this..."

"...We've got to go back in there and find Carlotta..."

"...because she's the one who's keeping the spirit alive --"

Which would seem to be a reworking of Quentin's "There's only one way to end it. We've got to go back in there and face it down --" from Scene 216. But because the reworking puts finding Carlotta front and center, it obviously flies in the face of the part of Scene 216 in which Tracy asks about Carlotta and Alex says he doesn't think they'll find her.

And speaking of Carlotta, Grayson's script has notes for Scene 217. She writes that Carlotta feels TRAPPED and PANIC - that she and Angelique have fought - that Carlotta is a little wild looking - and that there's desperate fear. She also wrote one other thing, but sadly the words go off the edge of the page, so it's impossible to figure out.

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