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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #495 on: August 19, 2014, 04:14:11 AM »
From today's line, it would appear that Julia is already well ahead of everyone else in comprehending what's going on.

Tomorrow's quote will give an even better indication of that.  [ghost_wink]

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #496 on: August 21, 2014, 01:25:49 AM »
Fascinated by this scene.  Thanks again, MB.

I am going to be offline most likely between Sunday morning (very early) and sometime the following Sunday evening.  I'll look forward to catching up with this series via this thread upon my return.

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #497 on: August 22, 2014, 03:40:04 AM »
After today's quote (the identification of Julia of which is once again simply "Hoffman" and will remain so from here on), the script indicates:

She's interrupted when her cell phone RINGS.

HOFFMAN (CONT'D)
(answers, into phone)
Dr. Hoffman.
(face tightens, then)
I understand. I'll be right there.

She clicks off, clearly concerned.

However, as far as that bit of dialogue goes, we're not including it in the slideshow in favor of more important dialogue and because Julia's impending departure is also dealt with through upcoming dialogue in this scene.

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #498 on: August 24, 2014, 04:08:17 PM »
Before today's quote the script details that -

As Dr. Hoffman leaves, Joe remains by Carolyn's side.

JOE
Hey.

But once again we chose not to include a bit of dialogue - in this case Joe's. It didn't really contribute much, and also again there is more important dialogue to include in the slideshow.

It's after Joe's "Hey" that Carolyn brings up her question in today's quote:

Page 39 - Carolyn: 'Hey. What happened to your two week Popeye-the-Sailor plan?'

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #499 on: August 26, 2014, 11:02:04 PM »
After yesterday's quote -

Page 39 - Joe: 'It was ten days, and I decided to give the fish a break. (squeezing her hand) I can't believe I almost lost you.'

- the script indicates -

Like Joe's comment is too emotional for her, Carolyn turns toward the window, an odd yearning in her eyes.

- before today's quote:

Page 39 - Carolyn: 'After all that time in the hospital, I'd almost forgotten how beautiful it is here.'

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #500 on: August 28, 2014, 04:02:04 AM »
After yesterday's quote the script explains -

Joe is a little surprised by that.

- before today's quote:

Page 40 - Joe: 'Carolyn, I've been thinking about what you said... about leaving Collinsport, starting a new life.'

Though one might think Joe might be more than a little surprised considering the things Carolyn said in her first scene with Joe about her mother and getting away from Roger, Collinwood, and Collinsport.

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #501 on: August 29, 2014, 03:20:55 AM »
And after yesterday's quote, the script explains -

Carolyn looks back at Joe, like this makes no sense.

- before she questions with today's quote:

Page 40 - Carolyn: 'Leaving?'

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #502 on: August 30, 2014, 10:28:03 PM »
After yesterday's quote -

Page 40 - Joe: 'I want you to know, as soon as you're feeling better, to hell with this town. I'll sell the boat, whatever it takes, just as long as we're together.'

 - the script explain that -

Carolyn pulls her hand away from Joe's, her eyes still focused on the trees outside.

- before today's quote:

Page 40 - Carolyn: 'I can't leave. Not now... not ever.'

(Gee, I wonder what might be responsible for her attitude adjustment?  [scratch2]  [b003])

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #503 on: September 01, 2014, 02:12:58 AM »
Fabulous scene.  It seems as if many of the best scenes were cut from the final print.  I'll try to restrain my comments about the ending since someone I am very fond of adores it.

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #504 on: September 02, 2014, 05:26:14 PM »
After yesterday's quote -

Page 40 - Carolyn: 'My life is here, my blood... I'll never leave!

- the script details that -

Joe's startled by her vehemence.

- and that's what prompts him to deliver today's quote -

Page 40 - Joe: 'I'm sorry. Maybe we should talk about this later. (off her anger) Get some rest... I'll check in on you tonight, okay?

- after which the script explains:

Carolyn doesn't answer. Still stunned by her turnabout, Joe grabs his coat and leaves. As he goes, Carolyn stares out the window, a strange, almost erotic yearning in her eyes...

And that's the end of the scene.

It's quite interesting how Carolyn has such a connection to Barnabas - a connection that seems much deeper than Daphne did to Barn in the '91 DS. And while hoDS' Carolyn was obsessed with Barnabas after he attacked her, she was already attracted to him before the attack, so in that case it would seem that Barn's attack simply intensified Carolyn's already existing attraction. In this pilot, Carolyn hadn't been anywhere near Barn before the attack. And we'll be seeing more of Carolyn's attraction to Barnabas in an upcoming scene - though I shouldn't be getting ahead of ourselves...

And now that this scene has concluded, believe it or not, the upcoming scene we'll be getting back to stuff that's actually in the pilot.  [ghost_smiley]  Though that's not to say that the upcoming scene won't have changes made to it when it comes to the actual pilot vs. the script. But then, so few scenes were presented completely as written in the pilot...

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #505 on: September 02, 2014, 05:38:36 PM »
It seems as if many of the best scenes were cut from the final print.

I don't know that it's so much that scenes were cut from the final print as that scenes were never shot because things like time or still pending casting decisions or other circumstances prevented them from being shot. In the case of this scene, I suppose all the stuff dealing with Carolyn and Joe after Julia leaves the room might have been able to have been shot, but it was impossible to shoot the stuff with Julia because 1) by the time she was cast the production was already preparing to move from Greystone to the next location on the shooting schedule, and 2) time ran out on production so there was no possibility to return to Greystone.

I could be wrong, but I don't think any scenes that were shot didn't make it into the pilot. At least I've never heard about any.

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #506 on: September 02, 2014, 06:14:07 PM »
I think that series often change, sometimes radically, from script to pilot to series. It's hard to imagine anyone other than Diana Rigg as Emma Peel but the part originally went to Elizabeth Shepard, known from Tomb of Ligeia. If the WB had greenlighted this as a series, it may well have been retooled or recast.
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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #507 on: September 03, 2014, 03:36:42 AM »
And yet again the latest chart -


- provides a clue as to what's coming up next...

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #508 on: September 04, 2014, 03:20:01 AM »
This next scene is set up in the script as -

EXT. BEACH - DAY

The sky is bleak gray as WAVES CRASH on a rocky beach. PULL BACK, REVEALING a grim splash of color in the form of

KELLY GREER'S DEAD BODY,

mottled red/blue, lying tousled in the sand. Suddenly there's a BRIGHT FLASH, then ANOTHER. PULL BACK to reveal SHERIFF PATTERSON standing nearby while a MEDICAL EXAMINER takes flash photos of the corpse. As Patterson observes,

DR. HOFFMAN

comes down the slope behind them, joining them by the body.


- and that's when Sheriff Patterson is scripted to deliver today's quote -

Page 41 - Sheriff Patterson: 'Thanks for coming. I thought you might want to see this.'

- however, it was dropped in the pilot.

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Re: And Even Yet Another New Slideshow
« Reply #509 on: September 04, 2014, 10:08:15 PM »
Given today's graphic, everyone had probably figured this out already, but today's quote -

Page 41 - Hoffman: 'Any idea who she is?'

- was also dropped from the scene.

A version of tomorrow's quote is what actually starts the scene as it appears in the pilot...