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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #180 on: June 22, 2010, 05:04:16 AM »
Gosh, we leaped dramatically forward today, didn't we?  I'd hoped for at least a glimpse of Vampire Stokes.

Unfortunately there isn't any dialogue in Scene #226 from the point that Stokes reveals himself onward - only grunts - but those aren't scripted.  [ghost_wink]  And even though it doesn't appear in the movie, Jeff is scripted to have dialogue in Scene #230 (in which he finds Roger), but whoever put the calendar together chose not to quote it. So, the next scene with dialogue is Scene #232 - and as we'll see, the calendar actually quotes quite a bit of it.  [ghost_smiley]

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He must really have been famished to want to make a meal out of something as unsavory as Jeff.

Indeed!  [ghost_shocked]

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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #181 on: June 28, 2010, 12:05:30 AM »
I can quite honestly say that when Barnabas delivers today's quote (Scene #237 - Barnabas: 'I've waited so long for this moment -- Josette!') it's the one and only moment in hoDS that I feel any sympathy for him - and DC would probably be horrified if he ever knew that anyone in the audience felt anything but revulsion that Barnabas might actually be getting away with his dastardly plan. Though IMO the movie would have been far more interesting had Barnabas been much more sympathetic - and quite possibly had he actually ended up with Josette in some way. But, of course, that's not the movie DC wanted to make, so that's not the movie we got.

All that being said, though, hoDS does actually have some beautifully staged sequences - and this is most definitely one of them.

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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #182 on: June 28, 2010, 04:59:33 AM »
Some notes from my first viewing of the final reel in maybe fifteen years:

Julia, who is supposed to have rushed from the Old House to Collinwood after administering Barnabas' final "treatment," manages to change dresses along the way.  Just another trick up the sleeve of a physician with a specialisation in vampirism?

I had completely forgotten the scenes of Stokes visiting the deserted Old House.  It looks as if these may have been filmed around the same time as the sequences early in the picture when Maggie and David are there.  Although barely half a day has elapsed since the departure of Barnabas and Willie, the house is again in ruins, with masses of dead leaves lying around the foyer and the front door standing up. I did find this an effectively macabre touch even though it seemed strange that the cobwebs had grown back so quickly.

Vampire Stokes has a really scary, crazy laugh when he attacks Jeff.  The shot of the dead Stokes (lying in what must have been freezingly cold waterl) should have been cut a few seconds earlier because we see his hand move.  Nice attention to detail, DC.

More viewing notes to come...

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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #183 on: June 28, 2010, 05:38:01 AM »
A second relay of viewing notes from the final reel:

Old Barnabas really is one of the most fabulous ghouls of the silver age of horror (the Sixties/Seventies period, which pretty much ends with Texas Chainsaw Massacre and the takeover of the genre by splatter nasties).  Frid's body movements in this role are so subtle, and add to the menace, as does Arthur Ornitz's camerawork.  There are signs here of DC's love of excess starting to take over, which really kicks in once we get to Lockwood Matthews.

I'm stunned at what the art director was permitted to do at Lockwood.  I mean, he dragged what seems to be an early 19th century cannon into the drawing room!  It all looks as if days, if not weeks, must have been required for cleanup.  But the results look superb on screen.  What I recall so well was being completely confused at this point in the story as to where we were.  They needed at least a snippet of dialogue about their having been an abandoned monastery on the island.  There's only a brief establishing shot of the house, with an ominous sting on the soundtrack.  I had no idea what that house was or why Barnabas et al had retreated there, on my first viewing.

Josette's wedding dress always looks more Spanish than French to me.  I love how her dreamlike descent to the waiting Barnabs is filmed.  And his line, when he takes her hand and speaks of how long he has waited for her, is a very poignant moment.  It would have helped a lot if the character had been allowed any time to speak about his motives, or express remorse for some of his obviously disastrous temper tantrums (the whole Carolyn thing--when you think about it, Barn seems to have been acting out of pure headstrong impulse with no consideration at all for consequences).

My biggest complaint about the big showdown is the same now as it was forty years ago.  That overdone use of echo chamber FX and the Sam Peckinpah slo-mo thing makes this sequence so very cheesy.  The one element that I thought gave it an air of tragedy was the beautiful "lament for Barnabas" composed by Cobert, I think originally for this scene (and re-used subsequently in the Jack Palance Dracula and I think a number of other DC projects).  Even as a 12 year old I was very disappointed in the cheesiness of how the climax was filmed and edited.  I can understand why Frid felt he had been doing "pornography" once the project had been completed--and why he strenuously refused to do a sequel.

I had missed one final flourish of FX at the very end of the credits roll.  When the bat flies up, there's actually a camera trick where Barn's corpse disappears, leaving only the mist weaving around the coffin.

It's really too bad that the tag scene, included in the novelization, wasn't filmed.  It would have helped give more of an air of resolution to the proceedings.   That feels very badly needed in the wake of how the picture wound up ending in the final cut.

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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #184 on: June 28, 2010, 05:49:53 AM »
I can understand why Frid felt he had been doing "pornography" once the project had been completed--and why he strenuously refused to do a sequel.

I also loved when Frid commented on a talk show appearance to promote hoDS that the film was just "one sledgehammer scene after another." Gee, ya think?

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It's really too bad that the tag scene, included in the novelization, wasn't filmed.  It would have helped give more of an air of resolution to the proceedings.   That feels very badly needed in the wake of how the picture wound up ending in the final cut.

I believe that scene was the invention of Dan "Marilyn" Ross because it doesn't appear in DC's script. Though I suppose it may have been a part of some earlier version(s) of the script and then dropped during the rewrites...

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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #185 on: June 28, 2010, 06:17:05 AM »
Yeah, it seems clear from the number of quotes on that calendar that there was at least one other version of the screenplay that the rest of us haven't seen.  Hopefully Pierson will make it all available to Darren for the DVD release.  (Just looking back at the start of this topic in July '09 and now really wondering whether we're going to see the release of the films this Oct. as initially stated.)

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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #186 on: July 01, 2010, 12:04:43 AM »
Today's quote from hoDS marks the end of the first run of this slideshow. Tomorrow the second run will begin with quotes from NoDS. Anyone who may have questions about any of the quotes should be able to find the answers in the posts that have already been made in this topic (the dates of the quotes will coincide with the dates of the posts). However, if that's not the case, please feel free to post a new question in this topic.  [ghost_smiley]

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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #187 on: July 10, 2010, 05:26:16 AM »
I just loved Grayson's radiant smile in her entrance (in the film as we have it now) as Carlotta.  For some reason, proably the angle of the shot, her smile made me think of the young Diane Keaton, which was a big surprise--they certainly bore no resemblance to one another.

It isn't really the right thead for this, but the portrait of Liz doing her Big Reveal from a day or two ago was awesome. And of course I love today's two-shot of PT Ange and PT Roger.  What a wonderful moment, and how artful of you to capture it.

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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #188 on: July 10, 2010, 05:52:09 PM »
This could quite possibly be the most attractive shot of Grayson on film - ever:


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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #189 on: August 12, 2010, 11:28:07 PM »
God, the image that is about to be replaced from the piano scene really has me jonesing for the restoration to be finished!

I just love how bitchy Ange is in that scene!

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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #190 on: August 13, 2010, 05:40:08 PM »
Yes, I love that photo:


NoDS: Scene #67A - Angelique: 'Oh, he knows what's
happening, Laura, my darling, and for the first time in his life
he's really enjoying it.'

I loved the footage from that scene even without the dialogue. I imagine it's amazing with it!

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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #191 on: August 14, 2010, 02:45:26 PM »
Love both the slideshows today.  NODS--wow, Grayson has arms! they're very fair!

And I love the #557 quote:  "We'd be responsible for creating a a race of monsters!"  And the subtext (in my head at least)..."and if we aren't going to do it the usual way with you on top of me--forget it!"


About the NODS shot above, a friend of mine who was trolling through photos in prep for the DSFest slide show a few months ago, also said the same thing.."That's Grayson?! wow she looks beautiful!"  My very dry reply--"well that's what happens when an actress finally puts her foot down and makes a few demands on her wardrobe, makeup and lighting---"
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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #192 on: August 17, 2010, 08:13:32 PM »
A little late - but here it is:


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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #193 on: August 30, 2010, 04:25:43 AM »
Glad I was able to catch tonight's exquisite, mystical portrait of Carlotta Drake in the NoDS slide show.  I used a very similar shot from this scene in a collage I did in Grayson's honor last year.

Also love the snap (and the dress she's wearing) featured immediately above.  One year, I think it was 1999 or 2000, the DS Festival calendar had a gorgeous still of Grayson from that scene--it was a shot or a moment that wasn't used in the final edit of the movie.  I've always wanted to have that picture framed because it just captures Grayson so beautifully.

Off on vay-kay and unplugging from the Internet for a week--enjoy Dark Shadows, everybody!

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Re: Another New Slideshow
« Reply #194 on: August 31, 2010, 06:39:56 PM »
Glad I was able to catch tonight's exquisite, mystical portrait of Carlotta Drake in the NoDS slide show.

And here it is:


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Also love the snap (and the dress she's wearing) featured immediately above.  One year, I think it was 1999 or 2000, the DS Festival calendar had a gorgeous still of Grayson from that scene

It was the 1999 calendar:


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I've always wanted to have that picture framed because it just captures Grayson so beautifully.

Indeed it does. And even though he isn't identified, I suspect Selby fans might consider that it captures one of his attributes 'so beautifully' as well.  [b003]

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