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Charmed ONE
« on: August 26, 2002, 06:10:20 AM »
Who was the BEST witch or warlock of the Series? Was it ANGELIQUE, NICHOLAS BLAIR, or JUDAH ZACHERY(under the guise of Gerard Stiles) ? Look at not just those supernatural powers used but also the ingenuity behind the deeds to determine who is that charmed ONE.

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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2002, 08:41:55 AM »

I vote for Judah Zachery. He kept me glued to the t.v. when I was a kid, he was creepy!
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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2002, 09:10:41 AM »
Angelique was definetely the "charmed" one. No matter how many times she was destroyed, she was the only one who always managed to come back again!  ;)

I always felt that Angelique was the best out of the bunch.
As far as the deeds go,  Angelique may have been wrong in what she did, but in her own mind she truly believed that what she was doing was right because of her love for Barnabas. In her own crazy mind she felt that everything she had done was all out of love.

Judah, on the other hand was truly evil and bent only on destroying the Collins family.

Nickolas too had a similar intent and that was to help Cassandra restore the curse that was set on Barnabas, only he changed his mind when he met Adam.  Then of course he met Maggie Evans and that was another story.
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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2002, 12:50:43 PM »
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Angelique was definetely the "charmed" one. No matter how many times she was destroyed, she was the only one who always managed to come back again!  ;)



She was quite creative...a woman's touch!
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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2002, 01:48:41 PM »
Angelique!  She went out and did everything she could to get her man, even though her actions were misguided much of the time.  She loved Barnabas--and was the only one to have "carnal knowledge" of him, too!  

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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2002, 02:37:16 PM »
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Angelique!   She loved Barnabas--and was the only one to have "carnal knowledge" of him, too!

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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2002, 04:47:46 PM »
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Angelique was much more devious and beat out the other two in the end. always vote for the woman![coolb]

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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2002, 06:06:20 PM »
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"Best" has to include (at least IMHO) competence, intelligence, strategy, thoroughness, as well as ingenuity.

That lets Angelique out (in all of her incarnations), who has some but not all of the above.  She acts without thinking and created any number of problems for herself by haphazard use of her powers that could have easily been avoided if she'd been less petty about everything (e.g. alienating the entire household of Collinwood unnecessarily).  She gets high marks for entertainment value, but if we're handing out superlatives . . . no.

You left out Evan and Charles Dawson.  Of course, the former clearly had no idea what he was doing and Dawson wasn't the most well-defined character.

Judah.  Well, let's look at Judah.  Before it came down to his inexplicable crush on Daphne there, he was doing quite well for himself.  Had established himself at Collinwood.  Was making strides toward establishing a coven.  But does he really have panache?  Or any great style?  Before the "fall" for the drippy Daphne, he was just sort of nasty, greedy and unpleasant and while that  made him fit right in with the 1840 crowd, all that adds up to is a nasty, greedy and unpleasant warlock.

So that leaves us with Nicholas.  Now he suffers from the same big flaw--a mad infatuation--as the rest of them.  But in comparison with the rest of the candidates, he wins hands down.  He knows how to get ahead with or without his powers.  He's got zip, style, flair.  He's a man with a plan.  Plus he's cool  8)

So my vote has to go for Tricky Nicky.

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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2002, 07:37:28 PM »
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"Best" has to include (at least IMHO) competence, intelligence, strategy, thoroughness, as well as ingenuity.

That lets Angelique out (in all of her incarnations), who has some but not all of the above.  She acts without thinking and created any number of problems for herself by haphazard use of her powers that could have easily been avoided if she'd been less petty about everything (e.g. alienating the entire household of Collinwood unnecessarily).  She gets high marks for entertainment value, but if we're handing out superlatives . . . no.

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So that leaves us with Nicholas.  Now he suffers from the same big flaw--a mad infatuation--as the rest of them.  But in comparison with the rest of the candidates, he wins hands down.  He knows how to get ahead with or without his powers.  He's got zip, style, flair.  He's a man with a plan.  Plus he's cool  8)

So my vote has to go for Tricky Nicky.

Considering she is lacking in some of the things you mentioned, Angelique's success rate is quite remarkable. That makes her even more outstanding... Now let me see... She placed and lifted a Vampire curse on Barnabas, saved Nora and Jamison from Lara Collins,  great strategy used with the Barnabas doppelganger, and the list continues...Angelique  gets high marks in my book!

With regards to Nicky,  he made a major blooper when he unleashed Angelique on Barnabas. That had nothing to do with his infatuation with Maggie Evans.  Also, Dr. Hoffman apparently can push his buttons...The "flaw" should be flaws when talking about Nicholas Blair.

I do not consider Evan Hanley or Charles Dawson viable candidates.
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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2002, 01:03:06 AM »
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I do not consider Evan Hanley or Charles Dawson viable candidates.

I don't either they only were interested in the occult and weren't up there with the Top Three you named!

Nicolas did make a major error with Angelique and Dr H was pretty good with him today!Plus i think he does a lousy job with controlling Eve!

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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2002, 01:15:09 AM »
I guess it would have to be Angelique, since she thwarted both Nicholas and Judah Zachary (in 1640). By "Survivor" standards, she won the game.

(Can you just imagine Angelique on Survivor, putting spells on all the other contestants? They'd try to vote her out but they'd be compelled to write someone else's name down instead.) ;D

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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2002, 01:54:19 AM »
If we are talking the characters, then I vote for Little Nicky! He is joyfully gleeful in his evil and wickedly proficient in it. Judah was gross and icky. Angelique is wonderful to watch but too jealous, short sighted  and ruled by her emotions to be successful.

I want to make it clear that I am NOT rating the actors. I think Lara Parker was absolutely great!
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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2002, 04:02:11 AM »
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I guess it would have to be Angelique, since she thwarted both Nicholas and Judah Zachary (in 1640). By "Survivor" standards, she won the game.

I agree.  Angelique survived many times even if her strategy was ruled by emotions & obsession.   Everytime you thought - "goodbye"  she'd come back again.  

Nicholas was ruled through his infatutation with Maggie.  He messed up a few times too.  For being Angelique's superior...?

Judah Zachary - pure evil as "the head" & was a bit scary even through Gerard Styles.  He messed up too.
The human factor is represented throughout all the characters through those emotions.  

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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2002, 04:19:28 AM »
My, this is a tough one. They all have their plusses in the the witchcraft field, but set-backs as well.

SPOILERS:

Angelique- If I remember correctly, Angelique was originally made a witch by Judah Zachary in 1692. She said that he had almost "tricked" her into joining his coven. (using the same techniques he was using with Daphne) She could make a good witch, but her spells are often very rash and she ends up regretting them. (Ex: the vampire curse). Plus, I always got the impression that she wouldn't even use her magic much if she wasn't always chasing after Barnabas. Barnabas could probably have so spared himself so much trouble if he realized he loved her much earlier in the series! She has some good spells, but she is too often blinded by her love.

Nicholas- He was a wonderful warlock before he got involved with Maggie. He had everything down- the evil grin, the gray ensemble, the hand motion when he places spells (I love that!). He seems to be pure evil. He loves torturing people (especially Angelique) and is very conceited. All in all, an excellent warlock.

Judah Zachary- He was quite the evil man. His sneer was the worst. He never cared about anyone, only himself. As some have said, Angelique truly believed she was right in doing what she did, while Judah was just plain evil. Plus, he just always seemed the most evil to me.

Overall, I think Judah wins the award for the most evil. But, Nicholas wins the award for the best sorcerer. Angelique has probably the most human emotions of all of them.

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Re: Charmed ONE
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2002, 04:13:51 AM »
Uh...seems like a couple of others were forgotten:

First, what about Laura Stockbridge Murdock etc?

She's 'supernatural' and sometimes comes close to beating Angelique.

I personally don't like her; to me, it seems her raison d'etre is killing her kids.

But, what about......

PETOFI???

We never reallllllllly know his origins; yes, I know about King Johnny, but, Petofi has great power.

I don't remember anyone else being able to 'inhabit' another LIVING person; plus, look at the  :D fun he has with Edward!!! :D

(Thank God no one mentioned the Leviathan characters.)

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