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Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« on: October 04, 2008, 02:00:06 AM »
For those who may have missed it the first time around, here's the montage for Eps #2 and #3 that we created in the forum's VantageNet days to celebrate the '91 series' 10th Anniversary:


And here are the commercial bumpers for Ep #3 that give a peek at what's to come in the next act:

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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2008, 04:10:57 AM »
If I haven't mentioned this before, I LOVE the model of Collinwood.  I just wish it better fit with the actual location.

Also, while on the opening credits, I don’t like the theme all that much.  There is something … tinny and insubstantial to it and the florish at the end is rather cheesy IMO.

Technical nitpick:  I’ve had blood drawn before.  The position of the needle in relation to the arm and even the vein were totally wrong.

Barnabas certainly has a romantic way with words the way he describes his every physical sensation throughout the stages of the experiment.  Then we discover, that he wrote poetry to Josette.  How sweet.

Willie cleans up pretty good.  If only something could done about those billy bob teeth…  I liked how he described himself to his Aunt as Barnabas’ amanuensis.  Willie seems to feel very close to Barnabas.  I would guess with his power’s fading as his blood turns more normal, that his supernatural hold over Willie would fade, but Willie has seemingly become quite fond of Barnabas, with all his talk of going fishing and water rafting and teaching him to drive…

And at last a hint.  Mrs. Johnson’s comment to Willie about his father “God rest his soul” Mrs. Johnson's brother? Brother-in-law?

David’s nightmare was cool.  And I have to comment again.  He’s gone from hellion to angel in 2-3 eps.  I accept that Victoria is a phenomenal teacher, but it still jars that David has affected such a change and formed such a rapport with Vicky without the viewers having seen so much as a single scene between them to communicate this change.  It all happens off screen and we are told about it.  The writer in me keeps screaming that his is wrong.   [hall2_grin]

Carolyn is much more tolerable when she doesn’t act as if she is going eat every other character alive.  It was nice seeing her show some genuine tenderness toward Joe and finally, a hint of some back story that isn’t just told us as a fait accompli.

Ten weeks?  Wow, and Julia is still around and Joe too apparently (since that is the excuse she is using to Michael to still be hanging around).  If this story was being told today, the HMO's would be screaming bloody murder that Dr. Hoffman is still treating a simple case of blood loss after ten weeks!  [hall2_tongue]

The blood exploding into dust reminds me of a certain other supernatural show that would have quite a cult following in a few years  [hall2_wink]  though after the first sample exploding like that, why could Julia not have contained subsequent samples so she doesn’t have to clean up broken glass and powdered blood every time?

Julia is quite beautiful, in her own way more so than Vicki or Carolyn.

Ah, our first glimpse of the new Josette painting.  Much better, IMO and much easier to see the resemblance between Josette and Vicki.

As far as the locals knowing and believing there is a genuine vampire around, at least they are smart enough to make the logical connection between the murders and the only new face in town….the confrontation at the old house with Sheriff Patterson and Woodard was tense. Even I was on the edge of my seat…

I’m curious. The Sheriff and Julia remark that all either Barn or Willie need to do if they need anything is to call makes no sense.  Call using what?  There is no phone and no electricity.

Dang, but Woodard is a sloppy snoop.  And despite actually believing there is a vampire loose and learning that his trusted friend and colleague is shielding this creature of the night, he seems to go from cool as a cucumber to dotty scary old man.  Did he not think that the first thing Julia would do when she saw the mess he’d left behind was warn Barnabas?  Why did he not go immediately to the sheriff’s office and wait?  I certainly wouldn’t want to be alone after having learned what I had and not have stakes and crosses and holy water nearby, if not on my person at all times….tsk.tsk. 

The vampire love story moves on a pace and is okay as far as it goes.  The show continues to grow on me, with some real suspense in the several Barnabas scenes during his treatment.  Some of the peripheral characters get some more fleshing out but there is still frustrating lack of character development for most of the cast that aren’t directly part of the vampire story.  Barnabas, Julia and Willie are still the center of the story and are written best.  Victoria, only insofar as she is suspected to be the reincarnated soul of Josette,  is still on the periphery.  So far there is no evidence pointing toward that other than her resemblance.  Apart from that, she had no character and is just a cipher ingénue. 
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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2008, 01:47:33 PM »
I too like the Carolyn and Joe background hint.  When she reached out to him and he pulled away from her and stared off into the distance was good.  Perhaps small town residents are more suspicious than most but I'm surprised that the scene with Barnabas and prof Woodard at the Old House didn't do more to lessen the tensions between them. So far I'm not defnitely not sympathetic towards Barnabas.  Perhaps thats a good thing.  It seems that at one time there was something going on between Woodard and Julia and maybe his feelings for her are overspilling into what he sees is a potential relationship between her and Barnabas and he's not liking that at all.
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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2008, 08:49:18 PM »
Julia is quite beautiful, in her own way more so than Vicki or Carolyn.

I concur.  While I believe in the Deep movie Julia needs be a bit dowdy and really into her profession. I don't understand why people think Julia can't be beautiful?  Can we mention the Deep movie?  I hope.  I personally beleive she can be striking, gorgeous, and attractive the traits I thought that Barbara Steele possesd perfectly!   Julia just isn't a SYT!   [hall2_rolleyes] GOGGLE some of the pictures from her yonger years! STRIKING is not the word! I am off to capture and review the last 30 minutes!!

And Joanna is one SCARY vamp IMO!!  Sexy too!
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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 12:33:31 PM »
I agree with Nelson Collins on too many points to repeat them.  One possible disagreement, however:

Barnabas certainly has a romantic way with words the way he describes his every physical sensation throughout the stages of the experiment.
I disliked that part a lot.  If he was really feeling the sensations so intensely, how could he think clearly enough to put them into such fancy words while they were happening?  Anyway, the more I hear Ben Cross's voice, the less I like it.  It's so harsh!

Its amazing how flat those wide old Collinwood floors are.

I like Joseph Gordon-Levitt.  His David such a down-to-earth kid.

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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 11:39:38 PM »
I just want everyone to know (and out mods) I hadn't  give up on posting my reviews.  It's been a crazy last two weeks with me physically.  I hope everyone hasn't given up either.  I miss everyone's posts on DS '91! I am gonna edit tonight and hopefully have it posted in the next two days!

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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2008, 12:03:35 AM »
I haven't had the chance to watch Ep #3 yet.  [hall2_embarrassed]

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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2008, 12:08:23 AM »
I understand people have lives and they are busy.  NO problem MB!  Watch when you can.  I do look forward to your review though!  [128]
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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2008, 12:49:43 AM »
I read what Nelson Collins wrote and thought he gave a very fair review of the episode.  I absolutely agree about the sloppy writing.  The whole thing with Woodard was handled so shoddily, and in the next episode, it all slithers into gratuitous, embarrassing schlock.  I really wonder whether the influence of the network suits to have more typical Eighties style horror elements inserted into the production was already making itself felt at this point. 

I loved Barbara Steele's scenes, as mentioned previously, but Nelson has a really good point about our beloved Dr Hoffman's  dodgy lab methods.

I can't get over Julia's manicure.  Every time I see those nails, I wish there had been a sequel to the Natassja Kinski Cat People with Steele as an older Cat Matron, perhaps similar to Elizabeth Russell's character in the original Cat People from the 1940s.  Meeee-OWWW!

Watching it again last year, I confess I was intrigued by Ely Pouget's performance as Maggie.  I thought that character needed to be more fleshed out and Pouget's energy made me want to see more.  Why on Earth was she banging Roger?  Was this ever explained?  Forgive me if I'm not sticking close enough to the actual action of this specific segment here.

Now where's that shot of Joe Haskell's bared butt cheeks? 

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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008, 12:52:08 PM »
Now where's that shot of Joe Haskell's bared butt cheeks? 
WHAT?!?!?
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Is there an outtake somewhere I am not aware of?  [hall2_tongue]
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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2008, 02:19:57 PM »
I dont' recall any ass cheeks hanging out Gothick. I am sure my 14 year old hormoned body would have forged that into my head! HHHHUUUUM....Lord knows all of his other hot scenes were seared into my noggin! ;)
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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2008, 02:52:03 PM »
I'm a little more sympathetic towards the Roger and Maggie relationship now that I've thought it over.  He's lonely, he's a man and not quite ready for celibacy despite what is going on with his wife Laura.  Maggie is very attractive, not of his class and he doesn't have anything to lose or so he thinks, so why not, eh?  [skull_winks]
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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2008, 03:26:07 PM »
Lord knows all of his other hot scenes were seared into my noggin! ;)
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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2008, 04:35:37 PM »
Well Nelson I was just saying that at 14 being gay and in a small town raised in a religious family MTW shirtless scenes were like porn I could get away with.  I also point you to JEFFERY if you have never seen that one.  MTW kisses another man and it is HAWT!  WHEW!  Plus~~Great MOVIE!

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Re: Discuss: '91 Series - Ep #03
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2008, 04:06:12 AM »
Previews:

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