For those of you who are new, after Don left the show the first time, people picketed the studios demanding his return!  Fortunately for us, this was one occasion when TPTB paid attention to fan input!

I'm not exactly new, but I sure did not know about that. Thanks for the info. And yes, it does get a little steamy with Briscoe on the scene....

Well, my younger son is named Gabriel, so that is obviously way up there for me! When I was younger, I swooned over the name Quentin (as well as the actor playing him), but now it sounds rather affected to me. My least favorite male names? A tie between Bruno and Jeb.

There are many female names I truly love, Beth, Elizabeth, Abigail... I think Angelique has such a melodious sound. My personal favorite would be Naomi, though, it is a name I very well might have chosen for a girl.

Well, their relationship was complex and as has been said, we really don't know much about the beginning of it. When Angie first appeared on the scene, Barney acted truly shocked to see her. As though he didn't know she was a servant to Josette OR the Countess DuPres. Unlikely? Yeah, unless he had never seen her in their service and she seduced him (or he her) apart from that home in Martinique.  Which would explain something, I have always said that if you are madly in love with the young woman of a house, you don't seduce her maid! People here seem to think that was common, but I don't think so. It was not unusual to seduce one in your OWN household, but not when you are wooing someone else and on her turf. Oh sure, Nathan Forbes, would have. But Barney was an idealistic and romantic young man, NOT a conniving womanizer.

According to the Mars/Venus guy and my own personal experience (alas, I came of age in the seventies sexual revolution), if a man does not love you before sex takes place, he never will. There IS such a thing as being too easy and it does not inspire romance. Add to that the fact that Angie is EXTREMELY controlling and strong willed, while Barney likes his women vacuous and meek. They could have made it as a couple IF he could have pulled his head out of his own keister, and if she could have been less murderously maniacal. Since neither was quite willing to do that AT THE SAME TIME, they just didn't have a chance.

I think it was more a comment on the actions than the mental state? It has been rather common to use the term moron as a insult since it is no longer used as a level of intellectual capacity. I am quite willing to assume the poster simply used a poor choice in words.

Personally, I wish the mentally ill received the same level of understanding and compassion that the intellectually challenged typically get today. But, that's my own soapbox and it is because I have a mentally ill son that looks quite normal, but isn't. Even still, I have been known to say to him: "What?! Are you CRAZY?" Let's face it some patterns of speech are more ingrained than we realize.....

If you study the Collins family tree, you notice that David's mother is also his great grandmother.  You see,  Roger married his own grandmother.

That's funny, I never heard it put it that way and I never thought of it! Wow, poor kid! POOR ROGER!

Sadly, yes, I do remember. It was a terrible time and a betrayal of the "peace movement" type of hippie. Manson and his tribe were cruel examples of the combination of a psychopathic lack of conscience, mental illness and drug use.

I had a hair stylist in Kansas City, who had moved back from Calif. after the murders. He said he had been Jay Sebring's partner and the police took him through the house to gage his reaction, as he was, very temporarily, a suspect. He did have a picture on the wall of him cutting Paul Newman's hair on the set of "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" and this was decades before Photo Shop. I looked look it up in the book and there was a reference to an unnamed partner of Sebring's, as I recall anyway. So, all in all, I believed him.

Julia: "David, try to remember...what was on the tape?"

David: "I can't! I can't remember! I can't think! I'm just a stupid kid! AND, I've been...."

Julia: "...stricken by the dumb soap opera character disease???"

David: "Yes!" (Eyes glaze over, drool forms at lips.)

Julia: "GASP!" (Eyes widen in surprised look of shock. She  then gets a look of steely resolve.) "YESSSSSS, this is obviously going around. I must be careful".

David: "Grgggllleeeahhh...."

Julia: "Let me get you a sedative, David."