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Sorry, but I can never watch NoDS without laughing at Tracy's last line, Quentin, you're limping! Why are you limping?!

HoDS has some rather jolting moments but is somewhat better. I gather that it's closer to what DC  wanted for the TV show, but I'm not sure where I heard that. Good thing he didn't get his way.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0344
« on: November 17, 2012, 01:08:49 AM »
Good choice, dom! I think we only hear him. Starting with the Quentin story, many ghosts in the Collinwood universe are either seen or heard--but almost never both at once.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0344
« on: November 16, 2012, 10:35:11 PM »
Very nice work by young DH in this episode, which largely revolves around him. Sarah does her best to cheer him up, but even she gets scared when Dave guesses that Dr. Woodard was murdered and leaves him alone. Even now, she won't tell on her big brother. Later, David uses her exact words in talking about Dave Woodard's death with his aunt.

Not even the fact that Carolyn says she believes David--and that they BOTH hear Sarah's flute--is enough to make him feel better. She confides in him, telling him about her (imaginary?) childhood friend Randy. They've both come a long way from the days when Carolyn referred to her cousin as the "little monster." David seems to have second sight, predicting that something terrible is going to happen--far away, but it will make a lot of people unhappy.

Later, he bids Burke a somber, fatalistic farewell, even though Burke promises to take him on another fishing trip. It’s all settled, David echoes in a monotone. No one can do anything about it. Goodbye, Burke, he says formally and goes back to his room, leaving Vicki, Burke, and Elizabeth baffled.

Later, when Burke and Vicki are on the terrace, the wind picks up, and it's clear that the widows are wailing….

A wonderfully atmospheric, spooky episode! Many more of them should have been like this. Dom, which other DS episode gave you the chills? Just curious.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0343
« on: November 15, 2012, 04:18:23 PM »
This episode has a few firsts:

Welcome, Julia's basement laboratory! Though the equipment seems to run on electricity, torches in sconces provide the lighting. Perhaps Julia has gotten a portable generator. She uses tongs to lob what looks like a chunk of dry ice into a small kettle. A chair stands nearby, but seems unconnected to the apparatus even though it’s part of the equipment.

Also for what I think is the first time, Barnabas appears without his usual heavy eye makeup. Perhaps this is a result of Julia's treatments.

Julia wants to stop the experiment, but Barnabas torments her by reminding her of her part in Woodard's murder. He orders her to begin, then he picks up a chunk of dry ice with his cold, undead, bare hand and adds it to the pot.

Later, for the first time Julia sees the ghost of Dave Woodard.

The last scene is one of Julia's most painful moments. For the first time, she all but says out loud that she loves Barnabas and accepts him as he is. Talking about a supposedly hypothetical someone, Julia says, She might accept you, even love you. What good is that if I can’t accept or love myself? Barnabas replies bitterly. Julia warns him one last time, Remember, Barnabas, human beings don’t often love without destroying. Seating himself in the chair, he replies, Remember what I said earlier: I’m willing to take the chance. Begin. Julia reluctantly starts up the apparatus again and chucks more dry ice into her kettle.


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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Mysteries of the Real Life Collinsport
« on: November 15, 2012, 01:02:42 AM »
I read somewhere that Barnabas Collins originally was going to be called Jared or something similar.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0342
« on: November 14, 2012, 11:02:56 PM »
Interesting observation, Joeytrom. Does anyone have any idea as to why most of the male characters fall off the Collins planet for a while?


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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0341
« on: November 14, 2012, 10:58:56 PM »
Well said as always, MB!

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0342
« on: November 14, 2012, 08:01:09 PM »
A very busy episode for both Barnabas and Julia: Barnabas because he is flying everywhere in bat mode, eavesdropping on the investigation and people's conversations; Julia because she has to act shocked at the news of her old friend's death.

In another example of the Collinsport constabulary's fine police work, Sam and the sheriff ransack Dave's office looking for Julia's red notebook. Sheesh.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0341
« on: November 14, 2012, 12:54:17 AM »
When I first saw this episode back in the 1980s, I found it extremely disturbing. One does have to give the writers credit for taking Julia's moral dilemma almost to the limit. It would have been too much for Julia to kill Woodard herself. But as Magnus points out so well, she did prepare the injection and failed to do anything to prevent the death of her old friend. So by almost any standards, she is Barnabas's accomplice and just as guilty as he is in the eyes of the law.

In light of the later relationship between Barnabas and Julia, [spoiler]I always wondered whether or for how long this unalterable, vile deed united them or stood between them. Much later, when Barnabas saves the Collins family bacon over and over again, is he trying to atone? Too bad the writers never thought to explore those possibilities. In fact, after Vicki goes back in time, Dave Woodard, his courage and his death are all forgotten.[/spoiler] Oh well.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0341
« on: November 13, 2012, 08:48:36 PM »
I don't think Sarah needed to create Dave's voice for Julia to hear. I'm sure it was her own conscience.

And I still think that Sarah is a free agent who was awakened, so to speak, when Barnabas was freed from his coffin.

I don't think we're meant to feel sorry for Barnabas and his pain. I think his mentioning it shows us the big reason that Julia is in love with him and why she's trying to cure him: She somehow sees the humanity that is hidden far, far beneath his vampirism.

We get another example of the Collinsport police department's exemplary detective work when Sam Evans and Sheriff No. 3 rummage around in Dave's office.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0341
« on: November 13, 2012, 06:00:58 PM »
Farewell, Dr. Dave Woodard--all three of you!

Although we have only a kinescope for this crucial episode, it does contain some of Barn's most memorable--and horrific--lines.

As Dave’s lifeless body falls to the floor, Barnabas delivers a memorably angry yet poignant line: Loathsome I am and evil. You can mock me for that, but leave my pain alone!

At the end of the episode, Barnabas tells Julia, You no longer have any friends. And she doesn't--except for him. So he has accomplished his dreadful purpose. But Sarah seems to have seen and heard everything, because we can hear her sorrowful flute music as Julia groans in despair.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0340
« on: November 11, 2012, 10:39:07 PM »
One reason he might be getting more evil is that the writers want to show the contrast between now--well, 1968, anyway--and 1795. They have to maximize the difference so that we see the real horror of the change that happens in 1795.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0340
« on: November 11, 2012, 05:54:23 PM »
The way this turns out, I never expected when I first saw it (as far as I remember) about ten years ago.  After the "event", I still could hardly believe I'd seen something like this happen on TV.

Me neither, MT. And that was daytime TV. [spoiler]I've often wondered whether the anti-clerical attitudes we will see in future episodes would have passed muster today.[/spoiler]

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0339
« on: November 11, 2012, 05:51:31 PM »
I think Julia's attraction to Barnabas started when she eavesdropped on him and Vicki talking by the fountain. They both leave, and the last shot in the scene shows us Julia's shocked expression. Maybe it's just my overactive imagination, but I've always thought that was the moment when Julia realized that Barnabas was more to her than a scientific experiment.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0340
« on: November 10, 2012, 11:43:00 PM »
I think Barnabas feels he has to bind Julia to him more securely. He can't do it by friendship or trust, so he seizes on the one thing that she has insisted she'll never do. He thinks that if she's as guilty as he is, she is less likely to expose him.

I guess the special effect at the end is a bit tacky, but I love the power of the scene!