[spoiler]I assume Barnabas being in 1897 is supposed to have changed history, but how did HE actually do that?? I don't see how his being there brought Petofi there. Didn't Petofi show up because he was looking for his hand? (LOL - oy vey)[/spoiler]
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[spoiler]Barnabas sent Magda in search of a cure for Quentin. That journey resulted in her stealing the hand, which led to Petof's presence in Collinsport.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]However, we know the engagement came after Angelique cured Jamison, but would Jamison have been possessed in Petofi's absence? Ouch. [/spoiler]
This raises another point however...
[spoiler]Can Quentin be killed despite the portrait? We know it keeps him from aging, but does it prevent him from being killed? I ask this because during Summer 1970, Gerard buries Quentin alive. The portrait saves him through its "heartbeat" warning, but would Quentin have died if he had stayed buried? They certainly played it off that way in the show. Therefore, if Quentin CAN be killed, and if the portrait was in fact there the first time around, then perhaps he was killed despite the painting, and the image in the portrait turned permantly into the image of a werewolf according to the DS werewolf rule mentioned above. So, does the portrait completely protect Quentin from physical harm?[/spoiler]
Right, I don't recall if there's ever been any evidence in the show to support the idea that the painting actually prevents Quentin from being killed. Then again, maybe it does? I don't think they were particularly definite about it either way.
~Penny Dreadful~ of GSWASBDDS (Grad Students Who Avoid Studying By Discussing Dark Shadows)
Aha! I thought I remembered some scene involving a bloody Quentin portrait. Here is some evidence that the portrait protects Quentin from harm:
[spoiler] In episode 844 Petofi slashes Quentin's cheek with a broken glass and the portrait absorbs the cut and starts bleeding. Quentin himself remains unharmed.[/spoiler]
....according to an episode in the Leviathan sequence, if a werewolf is killed while in human form it will turn them into the animal forever (ep. 944).
Quote~Penny Dreadful~ of GSWASBDDS (Grad Students Who Avoid Studying By Discussing Dark Shadows)
LOL Is there such a thing as MWADDBDDS? (Moms Who Avoid Doing Dishes By Discussing DS) :D
Right, I don't recall if there's ever been any evidence in the show to support the idea that the painting actually prevents Quentin from being killed. Then again, maybe it does? I don't think they were particularly definite about it either way.
Immortal, providing you take care of yourself, I think. Despite that scene that I don't remember myself, with Petofi slashing Q's face, or something, I believe all the other scenes in which Q isn't treated as absolutely immortal outweigh this.
yeah, I know what you mean. At other times in the show it seems Quentin can be killed (the aforementioned Gerard example). I don't think they flat out said so either way.
Penthea, good quote, but "immortality" might also mean that he just won't ever age.
I think the concept of the painting absorbing injury is pretty cool though, and adds to the sickly mangled look of the old Quentin we see in the painting in 1970. My guess is that it protects him to degrees.
Connie, I've never heard about this aspect of lycanthropy outside of DS.
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They probably made it up for the show. If I'm wrong, I'd love to know where else that particular legend comes from.
Jeb was terrified when Bruno said he'd do away with Chris while he was in human form, and explained to him why he mustn't do that.
Connie and Midnite, MWWADABDDS & MWADDBDDS - LOL! There are even more DS clubs than I thought!
Moms Who Will Avoid Doing ANYTHING By Discussing DS
....But if so, in the absence of an enchanted portrait, Beth could not have killed Quentin without a silver bullet in that gun. [scratch]
Moms Who Will Avoid Doing ANYTHING By Discussing DSAnything ? [wink2]
That made me remember something else... [spoiler]Before Barnabas time tripped, Chris didn't return to his hunk, er, human form in the morning, but I don't think the reason was ever explained. Could it be that Chris was killed and therefore destined to remain a werewolf forever, but the mysterious events causing his death were another change in the present caused by the sojourn in 1897?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]However, it seems Angelique was because Beth also told Julia that she shot Quentin after he became engaged to Angelique.[/spoiler]Hmmmm..I'm not remembering this Midnite...could you elaborate?
[spoiler]However, it seems Angelique was because Beth also told Julia that she shot Quentin after he became engaged to Angelique.[/spoiler]Hmmmm..I'm not remembering this Midnite...could you elaborate?
#836But if you meant the actual engagement or attempted shooting, they occur in #829 and #838 respectively.
I believe it is hanging in a museum now.I didn't know that, or the name of the artist. Thanks! I just found this...
I also think it was Quentin's ghost who killed him. [spoiler]For some unexplained reason, he had already tried to murder Chris with poison in an earlier episode.[/spoiler] At this point, Quentin was clearly powerful enough to actually leave the house at Collinwood, so I think he appeared in the mausoleum that morning and murdered Chris, thus resulting in Chris' permanent transformation into the werewolf. This was the second reason Barnabas went to 1897, but this particular story thread got lost along the way. Luckily, when Quentin's death was prevented in 1897, Chris was also saved. The changes in the past though had a strange result though, because [spoiler]Chris started transforming at odd times (even without a full moon) during the Leviathan sequence. This condition stabilized however, and he seemed to go back to changing only during the 3-day cycle of the full-moon.[/spoiler]I absolutely love this theory!