DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '03 I => Topic started by: TERRY308 on May 27, 2003, 10:57:57 PM
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Well today was what you call a perfect moment. Angelique leaves Sky (thank goodness), runs to Barnabas' house, right into his arms. [luv]
That was breath taking. Than, Barnabas, for some unknown reason, slightly pushes her away. It probably had something to do with Maggie.
Well, not only did you ruin this perfect moment, but, now you've made her mad again. [witch]
Look out Quentin and Maggie, she's coming, and she's not happy. [furious3]
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That quick run to his arms and embrace has to be one of the best DS moments. I think, in a way, Barnabas does love her, but is (as of yet, or maybe just not realizing) not in love with her.
Although I wish they would just end the Barnabas/Maggie thing at this point (since Josette already made it clear to Barnabas - get over it and move on already, buster!), it did allow Angelique to have Maggie and Quentin see little hearts. For me, the Quentin/Maggie thing is one of the best couplings on the show. I can't wait until PT1970!
Gerard
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Barnabas has a habit of destroying the best moments. ..i mean the other day he's sitting with Julia before the fire, inches from her lips, confessing all his bad boyness and nada. . . that was such a mean setup for the writers/director to do. . .
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Such a tender, romantic moment for Angelique and I'm sure Barnabas also felt what Angelique's embrace was telling him, that is when he turned away... this is one of my favorite romantic moments...sigh
Sarah's [ghost]
by the by.. does anyone know what happened to Connie? her wonderful story is also missing... thank you for any help..
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by the by.. does anyone know what happened to Connie? her wonderful story is also missing... thank you for any help..
I believe the story was posted on AOL, which she got rid of a while back. Since she's no longer a registered cousin, you'll have to contact her off the forum to ask if it's available online, or IM LoveAtFirstBITE and ask her to pass it along.
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by the by.. does anyone know what happened to Connie? her wonderful story is also missing... thank you for any help..
I believe the story was posted on AOL, which she got rid of a while back. Since she's no longer a registered cousin, you'll have to contact her off the forum to ask if it's available online, or IM LoveAtFirstBITE and ask her to pass it along.
Thank you very much Midnite. I am sorry to hear we have lost a cousin ???
Sarah's [ghost]
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Such a tender, romantic moment for Angelique and I'm sure Barnabas also felt what Angelique's embrace was telling him, that is when he turned away... this is one of my favorite romantic moments...sigh
Yes! Thats one of my favorite Leviathan story moments!! I loved the way she just ran into his arms, like he was the only man she ever truly loved!! I found it hard to believe anyway, all that stuff about loving Sky and being a happy housewife and finally being in love. It just didnt fit her. Also I like Ang's hair the way she's been wearing it now, long and hanging down instead of all done up like a Star Trek maiden.
Deb
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I found it hard to believe anyway, all that stuff about loving Sky
Well, don't even get me started on how a woman like Angelique could have ever loved a piece of cardboard like Sky! I could go on for days (and have ;)) about how improbable THAT was!! [lghy]
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Shouldn't you first have had the conversation about whether or not Angelique was actually capable of loving anyone or anything at all?
I vote with the nays, myself.
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I'm a bit surprised to see that so many people considered the hug to be a gesture of romance.
I think that this moment was one of the most poignant of the show and one of the saving graces in the Leviathan period (which really isn't that bad.) As I saw it though, Angelique had just lost her husband and watched the peaceful life she worked so hard to achieve crumble. Understandably, she would be upset. When she ran to Barnabas, it was because she needed support after what she had been through and he was there to offer it. Rather than seeing it as her trying to seduce him, I considered it a moment of pure friendship; after all these two have done to each other over the centuries, I was impressed that she was able to turn to him in such a vulnerable moment. Of course it didn't last long because in the very next scene, Angelique was up to her old tricks, but oh well...
ProfStokes
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I have to agree with the Prof here. It was not what I would consider romantic. Plus, the writers had to have some way to set Angelique up into her coniving ways again. ::)
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It was definitely old friendship...but I wanted romance.
Patti
PS...Quentin & Maggie make a very good looking couple.
I'm trying to picture who Ang would look good with...any ideas?
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I'm trying to picture who Ang would look good with...any ideas?
Nickolas Blair!!! Thought they were pretty good together in a sexy sort of way!
Deb
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Nickolas Blair!!! Thought they were pretty good together in a sexy sort of way!
Angelique & Barnabas had good onscreen chemistry together but you're right, Nick & Angelique were good too. Their's seemed more sexual than anything. I can't see these two becoming friends at all or even having a "decent" conversation together, whereas with Barnabas I can.
Cassandra
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I'm trying to picture who Ang would look good with...any ideas?
Willie?
Hey! As Judy Tenuta says: It could happen.
Gerard
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???Willie ???
No, I just couldn't imagine Angelique and Willie! As much as I really like Willie, he's much to wimpy for Angelique.
Strangly enough, I think that Nathan Forbes would've been a good match for her. He's a gorgeous looking man and she's certainly beautiful and their temperments are quite similar. >:D
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Angelique and Willie? Please! There'd have been nothing left of him but a puddle on the floor!
Willie and Angelique almost never interacted at all, if memory serves. I can only think of the time he went to Collinwood shortly after his release from Wyndcliff and met "Mrs. Cassandra Blair Collins".....and the time she summoned him to the garden outside the French doors to pick his brain about what Barnabas was up to.
Were there any others? ???
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Were there any others? ???
I don't think so - which makes WHL's, uh, "fascination" with her 1970PT counterpart all the more interesting.
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I don't think so - which makes WHL's, uh, "fascination" with her 1970PT counterpart all the more interesting.
Snicker.....you make it sound downright lewd! [9341]
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I agree--Angelique went into Barnabas' embrace for comfort. She had just suffered a devastating loss and he was her reminder/anchor of a different (and still tumultuous) life.
I was just disappointed she pulled the same love spell nonsense on Maggie and Quentin that she'd pulled on Jeremiah and Josette. I had hoped that after all the years she's lived, everything she's been through, she'd have grown wiser. Sadly, that wasn't the case. After all, Angelique had moved on, why shouldn't Barnabas receive the same privilege? Or was it the fact that Maggie was a Josette clone that raised the former Mrs. Barnabas Collins' ire?
Love, Robin
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I don't think Barnabas ever loved Angelique. The whole point of their relationship in terms of the story was that she was a quick, easy lay who came back to haunt him in spades.
I do think his "declaration of love" in 1840 makes a weird kind of sense for the character. He basically suffers from some sort of romantic ADHD--I have no idea what a qualified counselor would call it, but it's sort of like the more helpless and pouty the girl, the more Barnabas "loves" her.
In recent years I've come to think it would be cruel to think of Julia yoked to this befuddled boor for the remainder of her years. I do love Connie's vision of a romantic triangle between Barnabas, Julia and Quentin a few years down the line from the end of the series. In real life, what probably would have happened is that everyone else would have deserted poor old Barn except for Willie. He would have stayed on, keeping the coffin hinges oiled and the bats out of the belfry. or so I've thought.
G.
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I don't think Barnabas ever loved Angelique. The whole point of their relationship in terms of the story was that she was a quick, easy lay who came back to haunt him in spades
sort of Jessica w. and Clint in Play Misty for Me maybe barnabas should have pushed Angelique over a cliff!.
I do think his "declaration of love" in 1840 makes a weird kind of sense for the character. He basically suffers from some sort of romantic ADHD--I have no idea what a qualified counselor would call it, but it's sort of like the more helpless and pouty the girl, the more Barnabas "loves" her.
maybe it was all those years cooped up in a coffin i'd like to see a counselor work with that!
In recent years I've come to think it would be cruel to think of Julia yoked to this befuddled boor for the remainder of her years. I do love Connie's vision of a romantic triangle between Barnabas, Julia and Quentin a few years down the line from the end of the series. In real life, what probably would have happened is that everyone else would have deserted poor old Barn except for Willie. He would have stayed on, keeping the coffin hinges oiled and the bats out of the belfry. or so I've thought.
G.
i like the idea of J with the Jennings boys living on some island
or is that my dream! ;)
jennifer
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i like the idea of J with the Jennings boys living on some island or is that my dream! ;)
I think that might be more than a few of this forum's posters' dream. [wink2]
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Hell, I like the idea of *me* on a desert island with those Jennings boys!
trying not to pant too heavily as it fogs up me screen,
G.
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???Willie ???
Strangly enough, I think that Nathan Forbes would've been a good match for her. He's a gorgeous looking man and she's certainly beautiful and their temperments are quite similar. >:D
I can't imagine these together because Lt.Forbes was too much a flirt and womanizer to be loyal to just one woman. And Angelique is definetely a "one man woman" she would never put up with that stuff!
Deb
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i like the idea of J with the Jennings boys living on some island or is that my dream! ;)
I think that might be more than a few of this forum's posters' dream. [wink2]
I suppose i fall easily into this category .. .look to your left. . . But back to the issue of Barnabas loving Angelique. . i think i go with Steve here. . .he loved whomever he couldn't have. And really, Sam Hall's storyline and my own near-obsessive love of Julia aside, B would've ended up with Julia. . sure he would've strayed the *ss and she would've injected him with something nasty but still .. . they would've ended up man and wife.
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Although I wish they would just end the Barnabas/Maggie thing at this point (since Josette already made it clear to Barnabas - get over it and move on already, buster!), it did allow Angelique to have Maggie and Quentin see little hearts. For me, the Quentin/Maggie thing is one of the best couplings on the show. I can't wait until PT1970!
I agree that at this point it was high time the writers got off the Barnabas/Josette tragedy and let Barnabas move on...pairing him up with Maggie wasn't the way to do it. Not only did Maggie's resemblance to Josette still played a major role in Barnabas' interest in her, demonstrating he STILL wouldn't move on from Josette, but their past history [spoiler] kidnapping her in 1967 and tried to brainwash her into being Josette [/spoiler] really puts a sour taste in any potential pairing between them.
They did drop the Barnabas/Maggie angle once Barnabas went into Parallel Time and (gag!) discovered Roxanne Drew. They should have explored his feelings for Julia because I just could never warm up to Roxanne because she was so dull, personality wise in 1970PT time anyway. At least in the regular time she managed to spark up some excitement and in 1840 she did have a lot more spunk in her.
As for Quentin and Maggie, I always felt the opposite...I always thought they were one of the worst pairings on the show (along with Barnabas and Parallel Roxanne) especially in Parallel Time. Maybe because I found them both annoying during that storyline.