Is Eve just desperate or just plain stupid? I really don't understand her logic in all this.
If you were saddled with Adam - especially the Adam at that point in the storyline - wouldn't you be desperate to find a new man? [wink2] :D
[spoiler]once Jeff/Peter did remember the past, I'd think he'd also remember she was a cold-blooded murderess, no matter what her motives were, she stuck a knife in a guy's back![/spoiler]
Also, Jackie you brought up a great point about Eve not looking the same as she was
[spoiler]when she was Danielle. That would definitely be another strike against Jeff turning to her. And also
once Jeff/Peter did remember the past, I'd think he'd also remember she was a cold-blooded murderess, no matter what her motives were, she stuck a knife in a guy's back![/spoiler]
And while we're on the subject of Eve, what was up with her silky black evening lounge wear?? Not exactly the thing to go traipsing around the woods in during Fall in Maine... or when you're hitching a ride from Collinwood back to Nicholas' house by the sea.Heh, I thought it was awfully thoughtful of Julia, once she finished stitching the old girl up to make sure she was fully dressed and perfectly made up. (I wonder if she just used the dress one of the bodies Willie dug up had on?)
And while we're on the subject of Eve, what was up with her silky black evening lounge wear?? Not exactly the thing to go traipsing around the woods in during Fall in Maine... or when you're hitching a ride from Collinwood back to Nicholas' house by the sea.
1. Peter/Jeff was in love with Vicki, no matter which person he was.Why should Eve accept that reasoning any more than Angelique accepted the "Barnabas is in love with Josette" reasoning?
2. Eve looks NOTHING like Danielle, so why would he instantly fall in love with her again? Why would he even believe her in the first place? Just proving to him that he's really Peter and not Jeff wouldn't make him automatically believe that she's Danielle.Eve may not look like Danielle, but her soul is the same. And she believes that Peter is her soulmate. As for Jeff believing her....she's working on that.
3. Peter wrote her that letter saying that he was in love with someone else.Too bad. Peter and Eve are soulmates. They belong together. And so on. Peter just needs to be brought to his senses. She's working on it.
4. He had to know how evil and nasty she was!She wasn't evil and nasty. She was just pragmatic. Just ask her!
And that green sweater Carolyn gave Adam, he never took that off either!
If you were saddled with Adam - especially the Adam at that point in the storyline - wouldn't you be desperate to find a new man? [wink2] :D
Adam's not so bad. I liked him until Nicholas got a hold of him. While he was under Professor Stokes' influence he was becoming a nice guy. Enter Nicholas and all that changed, he became a jerk. He wasn't bad looking other than the scars. Give me Adam any day over Jeff Clark or any other Roger Davis character.
Well, obviously, I agree completely with that, Alondra -- LOL!
wasn't danielle as well as eve played by marie wallace?if i'm remembering this correctly except for the clothes eve and danielle looked exactly alike.
Adam's not so bad. I liked him until Nicholas got a hold of him. While he was under Professor Stokes' influence he was becoming a nice guy. Enter Nicholas and all that changed, he became a jerk. He wasn't bad looking other than the scars.
And that green sweater Carolyn gave Adam, he never took that off either!How quickly you forget Adam's PJs:
And the plaid shirt:
I was surprised that Eve did not remember more of her past life. I thought it was Nicholas' express desire for Eve to have the life force of someone evil that he could control. It makes no sense (to me anyway) for Eve not to be alive with all the memories of Danielle/Leona.
Is Eve just desperate or just plain stupid? I really don't understand her logic in all this.
I agree, if the experiment had worked as Lang dictated on the recorder, she should have remember her previous life. In which case why does Nicholas think he can control her? She was uncontrollable during life in the past, she certainly wouldn't be controllable in the present. What's to keep her from killing Adam and running away? She certainly wasn't afraid of Nicholas nor beyond defying him.
Let's not forget that Nicholas was on a "mission" from his master, Diabolos. I think that's why he felt he could control her. He was the more powerful of the two. Silly man! He should have known he couldn't control a woman -- LOL -- just like the disaster with Angelique. He couldn't even control her when [spoiler]she was a vampire, even though he made her that way.[/spoiler]
How quickly you forget Adam's PJs
Oh, so for once he didn't sleep in it either.
Oh, so for once he didn't sleep in it either.Once that we know of. But even though we never saw it, somehow I feel we can infer that while Adam was living with Nicholas, he didn't sleep in PJs as simply a one-time thing. After all, in his own twisted way, Nicholas was schooling Adam to be a proper man. One may think that might have also included buying Adam some other clothes. But let's be serious about that - Nicholas wore the same suit day in and day out, so why would he teach Adam any differently? ;D
I couldn't understand Eve's obsession, thought process and motivation at all, which was probably another reason why I never liked that whole Adam story line. She was obviously an intelligent, highly self-serving woman, so instead of hanging around there, allowing herself to be put through all the crappola she had to endure in order to find some way to make things work for her favor, why didn't she just pack a bag, snitch some money from under Nicholas' mattress, and catch the first bus out of there? I mean, would you put up with having to pretend you like some guy that would cause the cast of Extreme Makeover to scream, take the condescending attitude and bullishness of Nicholas, and why-oh-why would you want to get some wus to like you?I tend to agree. They did almost nothing with Eve. She was there as a prop for the Adam story and I don't think the writers gave her much thought beyond,"hey wouldn't it be cool for Adam to have "Eve?" Though based on her behavior she ought to have been called Lilith (Adam's first wife).
Actually I was speaking about Adam not sleeping in that "green sweater" but I don't mind imagining him not sleeping in his PJs or anything else for that matter. haha
I love Eve. I can't keep a straight face when she's in a scene. I am laughing now just thinking about it. At this stage of the game the show may as well be a comedy (as far as I'm concerned). It's the only way I can get thru it. Personally, I think it's this portion of the show that earned DS it's 'camp' reputation.Oh, I love Eve, too. Marie definitely has fun with the role, and I so love here story about how she got the part, deliberately waiting to be the last one at call backs, seeing what it was that DC wanted and teasing up her hair! LOL
It's everything else in the storyline that ruins DSs reputation, except C Blackburn and J Karlen, who kept acting like real actors no matter what, and added a lot of reality in the few moments they were on. I think Marie Wallace's appearance started to turn things around. She had real life and presence, and seemed to want to be there. And at no time was the character "weak and womanly and dominated by men". She knew her own self-interest and was biding her time so that she could leave in a better state than some woman in a black nightgown thumbing a ride or asking for handouts. She didn't even know what a bus was, had no money, and knew better than to fumble her way into a completely unfamiliar world on her own. Was she going to get a job someplace?Good points all, and to be fair she was much stronger (or at least more defiant) than Ang of that period (Ang in whiney voice - "master, he's being mean to me...make 'im stoooooopppppp!")
I love Eve. I can't keep a straight face when she's in a scene. I am laughing now just thinking about it. At this stage of the game the show may as well be a comedy (as far as I'm concerned). It's the only way I can get thru it. Personally, I think it's this portion of the show that earned DS it's 'camp' reputation.
I can see why some see the show as camp, but I never did seeing as how I NEVER stopped being emotionally involved with the characters and stories no matter how silly they may be at times. But hey that's just me.
The person who pretty much thought people like stupid because they are stupid was actually someone who worked within DS. And that person was constantly battling with the writers over the content of the show and often threatened to fire them if they didn't follow his ideas. [wink2] And many fans have often opined that DS was often successful in spite of this person rather than because of him...
Perhaps some people should be spoken ill of, whatever their life status.Veering off onto another subject entirely...the whole "Don't speak ill of the dead" business must be tough in Dark Shadowsland. "I'd like to say something uncomplimentary about Quentin, but I can't remember: is he dead today or not?"
I have to agree that eve period is horrible. Marie Wallace is such a good actress but i dont like her as eve. The whole adameve period was so boreing. the only thing i like was that my fav character of all time was on Nicholas Blair. [spoiler]I was very sad lolll when nicholas died.[/spoiler] I have said this before Dan Curtis did not use Humbert Allen Astredo talent enough on dark shadows. I like adam in the begining to when he is just learning to talk and all. but as much as i love nicholas he did ruin adam!!
It's a common misconception that Curtis preserved the DS episodes, but that's not actually true. Curtis has never owned them. ABC did and then ownership was transferred to Worldvision. ABC is who should be thanked for preserving them. ...
But let's be serious about that - Nicholas wore the same suit day in and day out, so why would he teach Adam any differently? ;D
Actually, Nicholas had about three suits. One was light grey, another was a darker grey, and then he had another which was light brown, which he looked especially handsome in by the way.
HAA is the only person that could have played Nicholas Blair. The chemestry was great with a lot of the actors it seamed so real. GH, MW, LP did put out fireworks when working with HAA. That is the only thing that I liked about 1968 story line was not the story, but the fireworks with all the actors. Besides the flubbed lines, you can see that the actors really got along.
He did?! Apparently I need to pay much closer attention the next time I watch the '68 storyline because they've all looked nearly identical to me for all these years...
Well, when it comes to Astredo, I pay very close attention ;)
You will see the light brown suit in the episodes that follow the scene where Nicholas get's into trouble with the "D" man downstairs.
BTW, text must appear between the 2 color tags for them to work ... though black doesn't show up well with the current default board theme. :)