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Hi Frank!  I also received my copy of the book yesterday, and it came just in time to take with me on a trip I'm going on in a few days.  I look foward to reading it!  All best wishes!

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Oh, I forgot to answer about Jayne Wisener (who played Johanna in Sweeney Todd).  She's a beautiful young woman, but Sweeney Todd was her first professional job, and I believe she was cast because of her singing and not acting.  Besides singing one song, she only had maybe a half dozen lines, so it's very hard to tell if she could handle a larger role.  Her usual speaking voice is a very thick Irish accent... she was able to sound more or less British for the film, but I don't know if she'd be able to swing an American accent.  She has presence, though, and she was very lovely in the interviews she gave. 

My guess is they'd use someone with more experience for Vicki, but that's just a guess.

Cathy

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This type of information leak actually seems pretty typical to me.  As (I think) I've mentioned in the past, the filmmakers and studios are not always forthcoming about where things stand regarding a film, especially early in development.  I don't know if it's outright "tell our secret and you'll die" secrecy, or just that they would prefer to keep things under wraps until they're further along.  So many times in Hollywood, things fall through.  They have no reason to go out of their way to let the public or the fans know what's going on at an early stage (before the script is done, or a location chosen, or a timeframe for filming is set), because things might very well change anyway.  I don't really think there is any advantage to them spilling any beans until such a time as the film is officially announced to start filming.  At that point, of course, they'll want to start advertising.  On the other hand, little remarks made in passing, like that director did, is a great way to hear little tidbits now and then.

Now that the info has spilled, they might consider making an official statement, just to confirm or correct it.  I hope like you all do that there will be something official said at the Fest.  However, I wouldn't be too surprised if whatever they were to say would still be vague, for now.  I'll be crossing my fingers, though!

Hugh Jackman would seem a great choice for Quentin (if there is one in this film).  I've been rooting for Cillian Murphy all this time  [ghost_smiley]

Cathy

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Current Talk '08 I / Re: Night of Dark Shadows
« on: June 02, 2008, 08:24:05 PM »
I didn't see either movie in the theaters, but rather came upon them while I was rediscovering the show on SciFi channel in the 90's.  I bought one and think a friend taped the other for me.  I like both films.  For HODS, I didn't mind the more sinister and gorier aspect, though it did shock me a little bit.  (I have a pretty high tolerance for dark and gory stories  [ghost_smiley] )  As for NODS, it was being so badly knocked by the folks on the forums I was in at the time that by the time I saw it, I was expecting it to be really terrible.  While I didn't think it was great, I liked the atmosphere and liked that the story was something new.  I guess it helps not to have high expectations!  Realizing that the film was butchered, I always hoped that a restoration might improve it further.  I guess we'll see!

Cathy

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I think that IESB has been pretty reliable, in my experience.  And ComingSoon usually only reports pretty reliable info.  Since this came from a named director, though I haven't seen the actual interview yet, it feels like solid information.  (Flimsy rumors are usually reported by unnamed "insiders".) 

Great point MB about keeping an eye on August's blog-- he may not give too many details in it, but we might be able to get a feel for the general status if he starts to discuss it.  I didn't realize that August wrote the Charlie's Angels movie   [ghost_grin]  I didn't see that, but I'll try not to hold that one against him   [ghost_wink]

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: New Dark Shadows Movie
« on: June 02, 2008, 04:34:33 PM »
Good point, bb, and I didn't mean to sound as negative about Burton as I did above.  I do love Tim, it's just that he wouldn't have been my first thought for director of DS, other than that Johnny absolutely loves working with him.  But that last point is key-- they do make a great team, and I think they will really push each other hard to make a great film. 

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: New Dark Shadows Movie
« on: June 02, 2008, 12:14:17 PM »
Hey folks, some news (I think).  According to IESB.net, John August is writing the script for "Tim Burton's Dark Shadows."  This is certainly the first I've heard of Burton directing the film, though I know there has been speculation about it.  August wrote the screenplays for both Charlie And The Chocolate Factory and Corpse Bride.  I'm still not totally sure I am happy with Tim's involvement, though I feel better after having seen Sweeney Todd, which is darker and less "fanciful" than most of his other work.  But I'm sure glad to see progress being made on the film!

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4997&Itemid=99

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Wow, this sounds like too much fun!!  I'm a scientist in real life (though a biologist and not a physicist... hopefully not TOO much of a mad scientist  [ghost_wink] ) and really go for this kind of stuff!  Thanks for the info Prof Stokes, and I look forward to your preface!

Cathy

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I remember this movie!  I remember loving it.  I will have to look for the DVD to watch again- thanks for the heads-up!

Cathy

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Thank you cousin madscntst for your encouraging post. I guess by now you know that DS fans have been let down many times through the years with rumors of DS revivals that never materialized outside of the 1991 mini-series and the 2004 pilot. My question is, if you know, is it common in past Johnny Depp's movies that there is no announcement that a screenwriter or director has been made and they wait to release all details all at once?  I mean is it possible that the DS script has already been written and we don't know it? I have no frame of reference with Depp's movies. Any input from you would be greatly appreciated.

Uhhhh.... I dunno [ghost_smiley]  Well, there's no established way that Johnny's people or now his production company update the Depp fan community.  So we sometimes find out about things as they're happening, but more often we hear things in spurts.  Occasionally (though not often) it's all at once, but usually there are *some* kinds of murmurs going on.  We hear things in announcements in trades like Variety, or from remarks by actors, screenwriters, directors, producers etc. that happen to get reported.  And even then, sometimes it's not completely accurate- for instance the Shantaram author Greg Roberts announced on his blog at one point that his screenplay for the film was done... but then we found out awhile later that Johnny was unsatisfied with it as is and had another screenwriter come in to revise it.  But I didn't know about that until after it happened.  I don't mean to scare you, but it's just to say that no matter how hard the fans go searching for news (and believe me, Depp fans will scour the net and other media quite thoroughly!!  Just as I'm sure DS fans do!!) there's a lot going on that the public just never finds out about. 

I've been rather hoping that the DS community may find out about some of the proceedings first!  I've been hoping that the fest discussion will somehow have some kind of progress report, though maybe that is optimistic of me!

All this said, I seriously doubt that a script has been finished.  Last we heard (and I think I posted this), a screenwriter had not yet been selected, and if I recall correctly, that was in the middle of the writers' strike, so no further progress could be made during that time, anyway.  Perhaps one is being written now that the strike is over, but I just don't think a good quality script could be finished in such a short time.  So... we may be in for the long haul.  I wonder if we'll even get any feedback about what the movie is going to be *about*  [ghost_wink]  Will it be basically the HODS story, or will it incorporate more of the characters from the show, or will it go off in a new direction??  Do we even know that much yet?  I don't think we've heard anything about the plot from the Depp side, other than that it will include Barnabas!

Cathy

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By the way, I agree that it was a daring topic for the time.  But that was a key aspect of the show at that time- corny as the show was, it would address things like child abuse, AIDS, gang wars, teen pregnancy, and drugs.  Fox was a new network at the time, and I remember it trying to be very cutting edge.  KLS was great in this!!

Cathy

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Ah, I was going to come back to answer this and see it's already been done!  I vaguely remembered KLS being on Jump Street, so I checked out her IMDb page and saw that her episode was called Change of Heart.  Since I have the DVDs, I checked out the ep last night.  I didn't know it was on YouTube  [ghost_smiley] 

Anyway, the episode was from Season 4 (aired in Jan. of 1990, I think IMDb said), and Johnny was on his way off of the show by that time.  He'd actually been trying to break his contract for a couple of years and they finally let him go, and by season 4 he was only in about half the episodes.  In some of them, like this one, he would only appear briefly in the "precinct." IMDb didn't even list Johnny as being in this episode at all, and when I mentioned the episode title to other Depp fans yesterday, nobody recalled it  very clearly offhand.  We wondered how KLS and Johnny would ever have interacted if he wasn't in the ep (or only in one scene).  But some guessed that perhaps she visited the set in preparation for doing her ep, or perhaps the show shot scenes from more than one ep simultaneously.  Or maybe they even did some promos together for the show.  Who knows?

Either way, I think it's so cool that they got to cross paths all these years later, and it was so gracious of her to send him her books! 

Cathy

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Wow, the mention of KLS sending Johnny the books is great news!  It means that even if we don't hear day to day progress (or even month to month!) things sometimes do get done behind the scenes that we never hear of.  In the Depp fan world, we haven't heard of much going on with DS in the last few months; he's filming Public Enemies in Wisconsin and Illinois and seems to have a very full schedule. But the guy is a great multitasker- he was preparing for Sweeney Todd while still doing Pirates, and so on.  Oftentimes, we'll suddenly find out about some project that we had no idea he'd been involved in- for instance I just found out yesterday that he did some voice work for a Showtime show called This American Life that will apparently air this Sun.

I can't say for sure that Johnny is going to succeed in getting this movie made.  And even though I'm chomping at the bit for it, I realize that it will probably take years.  (Shantaram, which someone mentioned, has been in the works for 3-1/2 years, and The Rum Diary for even longer).  However, what I will say about him is that he is passionate about the things he does and wants to do, and never takes them lightly or on a whim.  I think he's going to do his darndest to get this made.  I'll be waiting and hoping!!

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Thanks so much for stopping by, Mr. Frid!   [ghost_smiley]  I loved running home from school every day to see what you and the DS gang were up to, and loved rewatching it for a time while I lived in NJ and again on Sci Fi Channel.  Love your website too!  Best wishes, and I hope you can visit again!

Cathy

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Nothing too new here, but at least there's a mention on "Ask Flick Chick". 

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Question: Is the Dark Shadows movie dead and, if not, is Johnny Depp still going to be in it? -- HCRD

FlickChick: Dark Shadows, a joint project between Johnny Depp's Infinitum-Nihil production company and producer Graham King's GK Films, is still in development, but it doesn't look as though a lot has gone on since mid-2007.

That's when they secured rights from the estate of Dan Curtis to base a movie on the 1966-1971 supernatural soap opera; Curtis developed the series, made two feature films based on it in the 1970s, and later went on to produce and direct a slew of supernatural films, mostly for TV. At this time, there's no screenwriter attached to the project, but it does have a distributor: Warner Bros.

Dark Shadows was briefly and unsuccessfully revised as a 1990s TV series, but there is a loyal fan base who could make a theatrical film successful, if – and only if – it got the tone and characters right. Depp is a longtime fan of the original series and would star as tormented vampire Barnabas Collins (originally played by Jonathan Frid), the show's most popular character. For my money, if anyone could make sure Dark Shadows got done right, it would be Depp. Fingers crossed.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tvguide/356538_flickchick26.html?source=rss

Well, at least the film has a distributor, if not a screenwriter...  [ghost_smiley]

Cathy

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