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You may have already noticed and have been asking yourself why the slideshow for the '91 DS has returned to the BoardIndex page. Well, it's not quite the slideshow for the entire series because this year we're going to be focusing on the pilot script for the series because, for one, 2015 is the 25th anniversary of the shooting of that pilot (which began shooting on March 19, 1990). And for two, just as was the case with the script for the '04 pilot, the script for the '91 series' pilot contains dropped lines, extended bits of scenes, completely dropped scenes (meaning not even restored for the MPI VHS tape), scenes in a different order in the script, scenes that were never even shot, and scenes that were shot for the pilot but held for subsequent eps of the series.

And considering that the forum didn't exist back in '90 (hell, there wasn't even such a thing as a Web page or a way to display images on the Internet back then - plus Midnite, dom, and I weren't even on the Internet back then (I didn't first log on until '94)), we'll also be sharing press releases and articles detailing with the buildup to the series. In fact, even though the deal for the pilot was made in October of 1989, news of it didn't leak until December, making for a great Christmas gift.

So, enjoy the ride. It should definitely be fun...

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2015, 06:22:28 PM »
Thanks, MB. Looking forward to it!

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2015, 06:49:37 PM »
That sounds absolutely fascinating!! [8_2_76] [8_2_76]
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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2015, 11:00:03 PM »
Here's how the script details the initial set up:

DARK SHADOWS

Show 1
    FADE IN:

1   EXT. RAILROAD TRACKS - DUSK

    It’s a cold, grey October day. An old Amtrak diesel looms out
    of the fog.

    As it roars by CAMERA, its lonely whistle ECHOING, PAN WITH IT,
    revealing in its wake, the rock-bound, unforgiving New England
    coastline.

2   INT. TRAIN - PASSENGER CAR - MOVING

    VICTORIA WINTERS, a beautiful, dark-haired woman of twenty-five,
    sits quietly by the rain-spattered window, staring out at the
    stormy Atlantic.

    A beat, and then the SOUND of her VOICE begins to FILTER IN:


And that's where today's quote -

Page 1/Scene 2 - Vicki (V.O.): 'My name is Victoria Winters ... My journey is just beginning ... A journey that I am hoping will somehow begin to reveal the mysteries of my past ...'

- comes in.

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2015, 06:38:04 PM »
I forgot to mention yesterday that until I first read the script I had no idea that Vicki was supposed to arrive in Collinsport in October (I don't believe there's any indication of it in the actual pilot) - and then I completely forgot about it until I reread the script for this topic. But I wonder if that's where the '04 pilot and the Depp/DS film got the same idea?

Also, it's interesting that along with Steve Feke and Dan Curtis, Hall Powell and Bill Taub get credit for the script in the credits of the pilot, though Powell and Taub don't get credit on the actual script itself - not even for the rewritten parts (which we'll point out as they come up).

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2015, 08:52:07 PM »
Today we're sharing the first wire release:

'Dark Shadows' returns

Burbank, Calif.-"Dark Shadows," the super-
natural daytime serial that appeared with more
than 1,000 episodes on ABC from 1966 to 1971,
will re-emerge on rival NBC in the form of a two-
hour made-for-TV movie. Slated for production in March, the movie
will serve as a pilot for a possible prime-time series and marks the
return of the original "Dark Shadows" producer Dan Curtis to the effort.

                 Electronic Media 12-25-89


Future press releases and articles will be shared on the date they were issued/published...

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2015, 03:16:47 AM »
The script instructs that -

    CAMERA BEGINS A LONG, SLOW TIGHTEN to her.

- before today's quote -

Page 1/Scene 2 - Vicki (V.O.) (CONT'D): 'It is a journey that will bring me to a strange and dark place ... to a house high atop a stormy cliff at the edge of the sea ... a house called Collinwood'

- and then continues with:

    CAMERA CONTINUES in:

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2015, 09:44:33 PM »
Before we deal with today's quote, there's info on some preface pages in the script that I want to share - and some of the info will certainly give some clues to scenes that do not appear in the pilot (and will also point to the fact that Daphne was intended to be a Stoddard - and not a Collins - and how that production design person screwed up):

Revised 2/28/90 ================================================

DARK SHADOWS

Episode #1

CAST LIST


BARNABAS COLLINS

VICTORIA WINTERS

ELIZABETH COLLINS STODDARD

ROGER COLLINS

JULIA HOFFMAN

CAROLYN STODDARD

WILLIE LOOMIS

JOE HASKELL

DAVID COLLINS

PROFESSOR MICHAEL WOODARD

MRS. JOHNSON

SHERIFF PATTERSON

DR. HYRAM FISHER

MAGGIE EVANS

SAM EVANS

SARAH COLLINS

DAPHNE STODDARD



PARAMEDIC #1

PARAMEDIC #2

MUSCLES

(MORE)



Revised 2/28/90 ================================================

DARK SHADOWS

Episode #1

SET LIST


COLLINWOOD

         STUDY

         KITCHEN

         DRAWING ROOM

         DINING ROOM

         GREAT HALL

         FOYER

         SECOND FLOOR HALLWAY

         VICKI'S BEDROOM

         VICKI'S BATHROOM

         DAVID'S BEDROOM

         SCHOOL ROOM

         DAPHNE’ S BEDROOM

         THIRD FLOOR HALLWAY

         STUDIO ROOM

         JULIA'S LAB

STABLE

         WILLIE'S GARRET ROOM

         STAIRS

         STALLS

(MORE)



Revised 2/28/90 ================================================

SET LIST (Cont'd)


FAMILY CEMETARY

         MAUSOLEUM

         CRYPT

         SECRET ROOM

OLD HOUSE

         FOYER

         DRAWING ROOM

         BASEMENT

         UPSTAIRS CORRIDOR

         JOSETTE'S ROOM

COLLINS PORT HOSPITAL

         DAPHNE'S ROOM

         CORRIDOR

         SEROLOGY LAB

STOKES' COTTAGE

         STUDY

BLUE WHALE

NYU

         SEROLOGY LAB

         HALLWAY

         JULIA’S OFFICE

COLLINS PORT INN

         JULIA’S ROOM

WILLIE'S PICKUP

(MORE)



Revised 2/28/90 ================================================

SET LIST (Cont'd)


JOE'S CAR

CAROLYN'S CAR

ROADHOUSE

TRAIN PASSENGER CAR


EXTERIORS

COLLINWOOD

         GROUNDS

         MAIN HOUSE

         FRONT DOOR

         WOODS

         STABLES

         DRIVE

         COURTYARD

FAMILY CEMETARY

         MAUSOLEUM

OLD HOUSE

COLLINSPORT

         HELICOPTER SHOT

         STREET

WIDOW’S HILL

         ROCKY COVE

BLUE WHALE

ROTOLO'S GAS STATION

WOODARD'S COTTAGE

(MORE)



Revised 2/28/90 ================================================

SET LIST (Cont'd)


TRAIN STATION

         PLATFORM

RAILROAD TRACKS

ROADHOUSE

         PARKING LOT

COLLINSPORT INN

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2015, 02:20:06 AM »
After today's quote -

Page 1/Scene 2 - Vicki (V.O.) (CONT'D): 'To a world I've never known, with people I've never met people, who tonight, are still only vague shadows in my mind, but who will soon fill all the days and nights of my tomorrows.'

- the script instructs -

And as HER EYES FILL THE SCREEN, we HOLD a beat, and . . .

- however, the interesting thing about the conclusion of Vicki's voiceover is that in the script it's completely contained within Scene 2, but in the pilot, though it begins in Scene 2, it actually plays completely over Scene 3 and into Scene 4. And here's how the script describes those two scenes:

3   EXT. COLLINWOOD - NIGHT

    An isolated English Manor House, atop a rocky coastal cliff
    known as “Widow’s Hill”, overlooking the dark Atlantic and the
    small Maine fishing village of Collinsport.

    A STORM is brewing. The WIND HOWLS, rushing up the rocks off
    the sea to MOAN LIKE A BANSHEE between the Manor’s many gothic
    turrets and spires.

    A large stone structure, built in the 1700s, the house is three
    stories in height, with dark, deserted wings extending in both
    directions ... Mostly closed-off now, it is overrun with vines
    and leaves -- shrouded with tall, dark, forbidding trees.

    The sole remaining members of the Collins family ... walk like
    ghosts through its dark corridors.

4   INT. COLLINWOOD — SECOND FLOOR HALLWAY - NIGHT

    As MRS. JOHNSON, the family housekeeper of forty years, early
    60s, high-necked long black dress (“Rebecca’s” Mrs. Danvers)
    walks TOWARD CAMERA carrying a pile of fresh towels.

    In the b.g., a tall GRANDFATHER CLOCK CHIMES the hour. 8:00p.m.
    HOLD as she turns into an open doorway by CAMERA.


Though as anyone who has actually seen the pilot knows, the camera does not go in far enough for Vicki's eyes to fill the screen, nor is there a clock in the hallway at Collinwood that strikes the hour of 8:00p.m.

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2015, 03:36:43 AM »
Okay....okay....I can't catch my breath....

1st, MB....how/where did you get actual script(s) for '90/'91??

VICKI'S BATHROOM.....BATHROOM PEOPLE...DID YOU READ THAT!!!???

Also, on the cast, it's a Dr. (Male Name), and also, Julia Hoffman; when I saw the rooms, I see Julia has a lab.

Why would Julia Hoffman, and not Dr. (Male Name) have a lab?

A BATHROOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!

MB.....you have to give MAJOR MAJOR WARNINGS for anyone here over the age of 40!!!!

.....ick.....'Daphne'........ick

So, in this version, Barn is introduced right away???

Was the first airing a 2-hour tv movie, or (2) 1-hour eps?

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2015, 03:50:48 AM »
I was thinking about bathrooms at Collinwood for some reason today and I realized that in hoDS, there is a scene where Carolyn has just come out of a bathroom, presumably one equipped with a shower, if I recall correctly.

Granted, the bathroom wasn't actually SHOWN.

G.

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2015, 06:08:30 AM »
1st, MB....how/where did you get actual script(s) for '90/'91??

Mysterious benefactors have their ways.  [santa_wink]

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Also, on the cast, it's a Dr. (Male Name), and also, Julia Hoffman; when I saw the rooms, I see Julia has a lab.

Why would Julia Hoffman, and not Dr. (Male Name) have a lab?

He does have a lab - it's just that his is at the hospital. But if you notice, Julia has two labs...

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MB.....you have to give MAJOR MAJOR WARNINGS for anyone here over the age of 40!!!!

I'll try to remember that.  [santa_cheesy]

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So, in this version, Barn is introduced right away???

Well, at least part of him is seen fairly quickly.

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Was the first airing a 2-hour tv movie, or (2) 1-hour eps?

A 2-hour movie.

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2015, 05:44:25 PM »
Before we get to today's quote, the script continues with Scene 5 and the start of Scene 6:

5   INT. BEDROOM

    As she enters TO REVEAL ... ELIZABETH COLLINS STODDARD, the
    mistress of Collinwood ... arranging a vase of fresh cut
    flowers.

    Middle 60s, still attractive, with a proud aristocratic bearing,
    Elizabeth is a woman of great strength and determination
    yet one can see a fleeting echo of pain etched in the sharp
    lines around her mouth.

                        MRS. JOHNSON
              I've done everything I can to make
              it comfortable.

    She crosses into the bathroom to put the towels on a shelf.

                        LIZ
              Those Turkish pillows in the
              storage room. Perhaps a few of
              them on the sofa --

    Mrs. Johnson crosses back into the room, looks it over.

                                            (CONTINUED)




    Revised 2/28/90

5   CONTINUED:

                        MRS. JOHNSON
              I hope she likes it ... a young
              woman from New York.

    Elizabeth sets down the vase on the dresser.

                        LIZ
              It will feel odd having a stranger
              in the house.

                        MRS. JOHNSON
              Forgive me for saying so, Mrs.
              Collins, but I’m sure you made
              the right decision.

                        CAROLYN (O.S.)
              You can say that again.

6   ANOTHER ANGLE

    TO REVEAL CAROLYN STODDARD, Elizabeth's young (18), pretty,
    blonde daughter entering the room.


Though,again, as anyone who has seen the pilot knows, Mrs. Johnson doesn't go into the bathroom - she puts the towels down on a chair. Also, Carolyn doesn't deliver her first line from off screen - that bit moves to Scene 6 as we see Carolyn entering the room, which brings us to today's quote -

Page 3/Scene 6 - Carolyn: 'I can't wait for this lady to get here. Because if I have to chase after David one more time, I'm gonna lock the twerp in a cage and nuke the keys.

- which is not what Carolyn actually says in the pilot. She says "I hope she brings a whip and a chair... that's the only thing I haven't tried with David."

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2015, 09:54:03 PM »
After Liz is scripted to respond with -

          LIZ
Oh Carolyn, you don't really mean
it.


- though she actually says "Carolyn, you don't really mean that", today's quote comes up -

Page 3/Scene 6 - Carolyn: (a beat) 'You're right. Wasting the keys doesn't solve anything. It'd be just as easy to blast the little fruit-loop into never-never land cage and all.'

- however, what Carolyn says in the pilot is "You're right, Mother ... I haven't tried ... wringing his neck."

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Re: The Return of Yet Another New Slideshow (Sort of)
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2015, 11:10:13 PM »
Today we're sharing a blurb:

    # NBC had ordered a two-hour movie
based on "Dark Shadows," the 1970s cult
soap opera with a gothic horror theme. No
word yet on whether or not any of the original cast
will return.

        The Tampa Tribune 1-5-90