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Re: Dracula Movies
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2013, 06:14:02 PM »
Steve, I didn't remember the title of, "Deathmaster", but, now that you describe it, I've definitely seen it.

It was far-effing out.... [easter_rolleyes]

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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2013, 06:22:24 PM »
Original Yorga was supposed to be a soft core porn film.  But then through changes, etc, it became a mainstream horror movie.

Blacula -- no comments on these films?  William Marshall was excellent in these films and actually their saving grace.  The Count actually has a great story and a real reason to be pissed off after being stuck in his coffin for many years. It is actually more tragic than Barnabas's story.

These are what vampires were supposed to be.  by the 70's these movies had reached their peak as horror movies then the comic books versions and, yes, politically correct vampires came into being.  Barnabas was a vampire with a soul, but piss this man off and he became the monster that he really was.

Hammer films used the blood and sex in a well balanced way that you did have some good stories and they didn't apologize for the schlockiness of them.  It was entertainment and that was all it was.

One of the best Vincent Price ever did for Hammer (let's put Phibes aside, as the success and cult following was a fluke, I believe) was a sort of Agatha Christie meets Hammer Films in Theatre of Blood.  Magnus, if you like Vincent Price, it is worth it to check this film out.   Also within this kind of genre is Madhouse and Scream, and Scream Again...(okay, who remembrs the radio commercial for Scream.and Scream Again??) I admit that I haven't seen Scream and Scream Again.

Also out of the Hammer realm are other movies that stand out in the Horror genre such as The House that Dripped Blood, Tales of the Crypt and Asylum, Willard.  I am sure their are others that don't come to mind for me at the moment.   When you look at movies like these and ones mentioned through out the thread its a wonder how horror movies today are being made.  They have over the years dropped the ball on what horror truly was/is and seem to want to compliment everyone with gallons of blood for satisfaction.  One movie of today that comes to mind as an excellent horror movie is What Lies Beneath -- a well balanced ghost story that doesn't disappoint and also The Woman in Black, that is a true homage to great horror, but somehow dropped the ball.  As far as vampire movies -- can't think of one that is truly a vampire movie in essence -- the last one that comes to mind is Interview with the Vampire.   There are some cheeky and campy ones and i won't even count Twilight movies.

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Re: Dracula Movies
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2013, 06:39:22 PM »
Willie Loomis, I have never seen either of the Blacula films.  I wonder if I'm confused and Ketty Lester (I think I wrote Wells by mistake in the previous post) actually appeared in one of these.  William Marshall was such a great actor and I am surprised in retrospect that he committed to these, but perhaps they're better than I have presumed sight unseen.

I love the vampire segment in "House that dripped blood."  It's such a cool pastiche on the conventions of the genre and the pairing of Jon Pertwee and Ingrid Pitt makes it such fun.

In terms of more recent films, there are tons I haven't seen--the Blade films come to mind, and so does a John Carpenter film that was supposed to be gore soaked.  I am emphatically not a gorehound so when I hear something is generous in that department, I stay away.  One 1990s film that I did see in the genre was the Coppola version of Dracula which relied heavily upon the Dan Curtis adaptation of the Barnabas and Josette narrative onto the Dracula material.  I did think that was beautifully filmed, with a great performance by Gary Oldman, but the FX just seemed excessive to me--the relentless showboating of FX made it hard for me to take seriously as a story.  Another one I have wanted to see is titled, I think, Shadow of the Vampire, and is set around the filming of Nosferatu, apparently heavily fictionalized.  I read a great novel with this topic some years back.

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Re: Dracula Movies
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2013, 09:06:08 PM »
WL-- Thanks, but by a fluke (and thanks to someone here a few years ago) I do have Theatre of Blood (after having seen it edited on Elvira), and it's good.  I'll watch Diana Rigg in anything.   After having seen Phibes now, it strikes me that people wanted more Phibes films, but V Price didn't want to make another film where he can't speak normally and had to put on a lot of makeup, so this film happened.  It really is Phibes without Phibes.  Just a guess.
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Re: Dracula Movies
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2013, 10:50:47 PM »
Theater of Blood is another favorite of mine.

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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2013, 10:52:02 PM »
Blacula...hmmm...I remember when it was on one night, my mom came home and was disgusted by the title. I had already seen this movie, so I didn't mind turning the channel.

"What Lies Beneath" is a fantastic movie, which I own.

Not remembering House that Dripped Blood....or Theatre of Blood, but, I probably did.

I never realized the Coppola version of Dracula relied on DS...I don't believe I've seen it since having (re)-watched DS.

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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2013, 11:05:02 PM »
Theatre of Blood is great fun, with Vinnie the P chewing all available scenery. And, like Magnus, I will watch Diana Rigg in anything.

The vampire segment in The House That Dripped Blood is equally fun. I think that they wanted Christopher Lee segment, instead of the one with Chloe Franks.

I have a special affection for the vampire restaurant segment in The Vault of Horror, with Anna and Daniel Massey as sister and brother. It manages to capture the feel of EC comics quite well.  And, yes, the fresh is so much better than the frozen concentrate.
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2013, 02:34:58 AM »
There is another four-degrees-of-separation between Hammer Films and DS.  The revitalized studio, in 2010, released the critically-acclaimed Let Me In, starring Chloe Moretz as the lonely, isolated vampire child who is befriended by an equally lonely, bullied human child.

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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2013, 08:26:10 PM »
Theatre of Blood is great fun

Indeed it is. Definitely one of my favorites.

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And, like Magnus, I will watch Diana Rigg in anything.

Same here. I was thrilled when she joined the cast of Game of Thrones.


The revitalized studio, in 2010, released the critically-acclaimed Let Me In, starring Chloe Moretz as the lonely, isolated vampire child who is befriended by an equally lonely, bullied human child.

Another excellent film. And Chloe is outstanding in it. I highly recommend it.

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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2013, 09:15:23 PM »
Last night, I popped in "Dracula Has Risen From the Grave".

(NO PETER CUSHING...waaah!!)

I'm not sure where it's supposed to take place; I kept rewinding when the Monsignor said the town/area, but I couldn't make it out.

Overall, very flimsy film.

Drac has risen; how/who put him in the quasi-grave?

Too rushed.

Only part worth seeing was the 'Roger Daltry-looking lead man'  [easter_shocked].

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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2013, 11:45:31 PM »
Also, in what manner was Dracula buried? Glass coffin, or ice?
When (I almost just posted Barnabas!) Dracula gets the local vicar in his thrall, Drac has Vicar dump some poor dead woman out of her coffin for his own use! (That was pretty nasty.) There was a placard on the coffin that read 1880-1905, so, I believe Drac has risen in the 20th century.

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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2013, 02:17:46 AM »
Hi Patti, I re-watched this movie a few months ago, and I think it's meant to be sometime in the 19th century.  I think the coffin that was robbed actually had dates from the 17th-18th centuries on it.  The movie is meant to be a direct sequel and continuation of Dracula, Prince of Darkness (really a much better movie IMO), at the end of which [spoiler]Dracula, who is supposed to have a traditional aversion to running water, is trapped under ice in the moat outside his own castle.[/spoiler]

There are a number of "rules" given about vampirism in this one that don't apply in the other ones--the most egregious is the notion that somebody has to say prayers when a vampire is destroyed, or else it doesn't work.  Huh?

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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2013, 10:38:26 PM »
There are a number of "rules" given about vampirism in this one that don't apply in the other ones--the most egregious is the notion that somebody has to say prayers when a vampire is destroyed, or else it doesn't work.  Huh?

Yeah, I meant to mention this oddity too. I've never heard that one before!!

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« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2013, 12:34:30 AM »
I now wonder if that's what I saw at the end of the UK TV Dracula with Louis Jordan, prayers to make it work.
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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2013, 12:48:32 AM »
Hammer was also offered, and accepted, the screenplay for the film adaptation of the vampire apocalypse movie The Last Man on Earth, pretty much faithfully adapted from Richard Matheson's novel I Am Legend.  Matheson wrote the screenplays for Dan Curtis' The Night Stalker and The Night Strangler, his first major works after DS.  The British board of censors considered the screenplay too violent and would not allow Hammer to produce it.  The screenplay then went to an Italian production company, starring Vincent Price.  It is now a cult classic.  Despite the low budget, it is well known for being an eerie, atmospheric film.  You can watch the entire film on youtube.  Because of the limited budget, it was done in black-and-white and Italian towns were remotely "disguised" as Los Angeles.  Italian actors and actresses stumbled through English or were otherwise dubbed.  Hammer, if the then prudish British censors would've permitted the movie to be produced, obviously would've thrown every pound into it, making it in color with actual location shots and elaborate sets.  But it's amazing what the cash-strapped Italians did with the screenplay.  The scene where Vincent Price's character's wife returns from the dead as a vampire and attempts to attack him is blood-curdling.  The scene where he has to watch the body of his seven-year-old daughter dumped into a burning pit of infected, dead humans before she "reverts" is mind-boggling.  The scene where he finds a frightened, injured dog that shows up at his doorstep, where he thinks he's finally found another living thing to spend his life with, only to find it infected and he has to euthanize it is heart-breaking. 

Again, another vampire movie/Dark Shadows connection.

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