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Discuss - Ep #0853
« on: September 21, 2009, 10:58:26 PM »
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2009, 10:54:49 PM »
Today we get the many loves of Barnabas Collins.  Angelique's line, "She reminds me of someone I loathe."  In the present tense even though Cosette is a hundred years dead.   Does that mean that her pursuit of Barnabas is more out of hatred for Cosette than actual love of Barnabas?   She appears to be over Barnabas but not her hated for Cosette.   
Then there is her scene with Julia where they appear almost friendly, but Angelique must realize that Barnabas would never be interested in someone Julia's age or with her capabilities. 
Is Angelique behind the apparent possession of Kitty?  It seems to make her more appealing to Edward.  Are the writers giving acknowledgement to the boys Jamison's age who had a crush on KLS? 
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 05:16:31 AM »
Quote from: alwaysdavid on September 26, 2009, 10:54:49 PM
Angelique's line, "She reminds me of someone I loathe."  In the present tense even though Cosette is a hundred years dead.

Josette has been dead about a hundred years at this point in time, but I don't think you can use the linear passing of time when discussing Angelique's memories.  From what we've seen so far, Angelique has not spent much time on earth since Josette's death, and that includes the time she came and went as a ghost during Vicki's trial, her time as Cassandra and existence as a vampire, and the brief time she spent after that in 1796 before Ben got rid of her.  Through the rest of her existence post-1795, and up until Evan and Quentin summoned her out of the fire (notwithstanding the revelations of 1840), Angelique has been in hell.  Does time pass in hell?!?
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 08:05:09 AM »
Quote from: Midnite on September 27, 2009, 05:16:31 AM
Does time pass in hell?!?

I'm sure the time just flies by!

Good point about Ang's experienced time, though by 1897 she certainly sounds worldly and seasoned by life.   She talks about she and Barnabas encountering each other in different eras in epic terms, hard to avoid maybe, when jumping around amongst centuries, except that not much time seems to have passed for her personally, except maybe in Hell.
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 05:51:25 PM »
I've been thinking about the way Angelique behaves in 1897 and it seems that [spoiler]she could be the Angelique of the Leviation time where she has moved on[/spoiler]  This to me would explain her change in attiude towards Barnabas and her involvement with Quentin. 
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 02:05:48 AM »
That sounds good in theory, but it doesn't explain why
[spoiler]Angelique bought Q's portrait in 1969. She said that she bought it to remind her of Quentin and Barnabas, and how could it remind her of Q if she hadn't even been to 1897?[/spoiler]
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 04:41:10 AM »
Quote from: alwaysdavid on September 27, 2009, 05:51:25 PM
I've been thinking about the way Angelique behaves in 1897 and it seems that [spoiler]she could be the Angelique of the Leviation time where she has moved on[/spoiler]  This to me would explain her change in attiude towards Barnabas and her involvement with Quentin.

I'm with fanforever on Angelique's chronology, but I also think your example is evidence that she [spoiler]takes a bit of a shortcut between the last sighting of her in 1897 and her reappearance during the Leviathan story.[/spoiler]
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 05:23:18 PM »
That's  interesting that she buys that.  I don't recall that purchase as I have only seen some of 1841 parallel time and some of the Leviathon since fourty years ago.   My theory would give the writers more credit than they seem capable of anyway. One would have to assume there was a long term plan for the show.
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 06:09:04 PM »
Though she didn't buy it; it was given to her [spoiler]as a wedding present from Sky.[/spoiler]
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2009, 05:07:41 AM »
Only because
[spoiler]she insisted on staring at it for hours on end every spare moment she had! It wasn't as if Sky had decided, "Oh, this seems like a nice painting for Angelique . . ."[/spoiler]
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 05:48:32 AM »
Well, she is a puppeteer.
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 07:21:46 AM »
And Sky is wooden.
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 12:25:00 PM »
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2009, 04:52:16 PM »
Didn't Geoffrey Scott beat out the drawing-room doors for Most Wooden Performance in the entire history of DS in a certain competition?

Some of the day players were pretty wooden.  Remember that hapless mortician who called one day and asked to see Mr. Jonathan?

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Re: Discuss - Ep #0853
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2009, 06:41:07 AM »
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