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Maggie Escapes
« on: December 18, 2008, 05:25:44 PM »
I was watching the episode where Maggie escapes from Barnabas' cell in the basement of the old house and wondered how others felt about the conclusion. Maggie successfully escapes and makes her way onto the beach but drops to the ground exhausted. Barnabas finds her and is about to kill her when Sam hears Maggie's screams. Barnabas runs and hides as Sam finds Maggie.

Only a few episodes earlier Barnabas was ready to kill both Willie and Maggie. It has been explained that Barnabas has superhuman strength (tearing apart the bars in Dr. Woodard's offfice) in addition to his vampiric powers, so why didn't he just kill Sam and then Maggie? Why did he run? I think it would have made more sense if Sam had been with Sherrif Patterson and his men, or Barnabas thought they were with him, but this was never mentioned. Is there a logical explanation for Barnabas running away and allowing Sam to rescue his daughter?     

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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2008, 06:40:11 PM »
Maybe Barnabas believed Sam WAS with the sheriff and his deputies, or at least thought he could have been. Why he didn't follow Sam to see one way or another, I don't know. Maybe he was hoping Maggie would die on her own before she could tell Sam anything.

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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2008, 07:21:09 PM »
certainly a possibility. Another one being that the human side of Barnabas stopped him from killing both Maggie and Sam. He could have done the same to Willie and Maggie earlier but he appeared to hesitate, listening to Willie's pleading, perhaps looking for an excuse not to kill them.   

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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2008, 09:16:25 PM »
I know it's unfair but ...

The pacing of this scene really doesn't work for me.  Given the strength of the Undead, Barnabas would have had plenty of time to just snap Maggie's neck and then dematerialize.  Instead he just hovers melodramatically over her body until you hear Sam's shouts.

Perhaps it was some secret bit of remorse that kept him from killing her.  Or, perhaps, David Ford was just a wee bit late catching his cue.

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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2008, 02:20:59 AM »
I tend to think it was his constant internal struggle with his conscience. He was often cruel to Maggie in those episodes (making her stay in a coffin? Ewww!), but he still had to contend with the human side of himself that kept dangling morality in front of him. Again, the genius that Mr. Frid brought to the character.
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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2008, 07:42:31 PM »
Early on the character of Barnabas became conflicted and not the typical monster. In the Jason storyline he takes an interest in his cousin Elizabeth's problems and offers assistance when she is prepared to jump from widow's hill. The introduction of Sarah helped to futher humanize him. It was a combination of the qualities of Jonathan Frid and the writers recognizing what they had to work with.   

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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2008, 12:55:05 AM »
When I first saw this episode, I was under the impression that while Barnabas was hovering over Maggie (and then later while watching from the bushes), after hearing Sam, that he was using his powers to hypnotize Maggie into forgetting what had happened to her, or at least attempting to block out her memory some way.  It always seemed to me that Maggie needed a little help forgetting the events that had happened to her, and I always thought Barnabas supplied that help.  The reason he showed up at the hospital later on was because he wanted to see if his little trick had worked.

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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2008, 07:51:12 AM »
I don't think Barnabas could have caused Maggie's memory loss, because if he could have done that, then later on he wouldn't have been dependent on Julia's hypnotizing skills to keep Maggie quiet.

I haven't seen this episode since it came up in the Watching Project over a year ago, but it seemed to me then that Barnabas had no problem with the idea of killing Maggie.  If I remember correctly, my impression was that at that point he had pretty much outsourced his conscience to Sarah, but it was never very clear-cut.

There's got to be an answer, but I don't have it yet.

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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2008, 08:49:19 AM »
Well, going off of my theory, which is probably far fetched, but plausible nonetheless, Barnabas was able to control Maggie's memory up to a point, just like he was able to control Maggie up to a point.  Her will was strong (as evidenced in the story), and so Julia's expertise was needed to control the situation. 

The writers couldn't really kill off Maggie, and they couldn't really off Barnabas.  I think that was the problem they ran into at the end of this storyline.  They were probably intending Maggie to escape and tell everyone Barnabas was her kidnapper, but they couldn't let her do that.  If they killed Barnabas, they would have killed the ratings.   [santa_tongue]

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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2008, 10:03:42 AM »
Maybe Barnabas thought it would be bad luck to murder the man who did his portrait.

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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2008, 10:28:04 PM »
Maybe it was because she was close to the entrance to the tunnel that went to the Old House which would point to Barnabas.  I think that he didn't really want to kill her.
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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2008, 04:52:12 AM »
And there's always the theory that since Maggie resembled the beloved Josette in appearance, Barnabas just couldn't bring himself to do away with her as Sam appeared on the scene.


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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2008, 10:18:01 PM »
I like both of the above replies, but if he didn't do anything to Maggie's memory, he would still get caught.  Would Barnabas just sit around and hope for the best?  Was the life of Maggie really worth his own life?  I've always needed something more to answer these questions, which is why I explain it all away with hypnotism.  If you watch the scene, the way Barnabas is looking at Maggie, you can definitely infer that he is doing something to her mind.  Like I said, this is just my theory, but it closes a lot of loopholes:  Why Barnabas didn't kill Maggie, why Maggie lost her memory and needed a specialist to get it back, etc...

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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2008, 04:25:31 AM »
i just watched this episode last night in fact, or was it today? no last nite, late last nite which is why i had trouble remembering. anyways, i don't think he was trying to make her forget, if you remember he didn't know sarah was around than. if my memory serves me right, he did know there was a little girl around the area buut NOT his little sister. i admit i forget this part so i may be wrong. please correct me if i am indeed incorrect. anyways,

as for him not killing Sam, i don't think he had a reason TO kill him. yes he had earlyier threatned to kill him if she made any noise. buut that was than, also if you look at "David Ford" he's not a skinny little thing for him to pick up. maybe if Willie was with him he may have killed him soo than he can have help moving both the bodies.

another guess is simply this, he was debating on what to do with her, he was one minute threatening her.

& he hadn't yet decided on HOW to kill her. if you remember Barnabas had told her he'd kill her slowly. or something along the lines of that. or he just didn't want to bodies to have to have removed. cause for one thing   "Maggie" was in a way considered dead by the police.  buut "Sam" will be missed. killing Jason later on was a guy that nobody would miss. he was to leave town anyways.  well i'm out of guessing for the time being. everyon here has good idea's on why he just didn't kill them both.

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Re: Maggie Escapes
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2008, 04:11:27 AM »
I don't think Barnabas killed either Sam or Maggie because it would not have made any sense to the storyline. If Maggie or Sam would have died where would that story have gone?  I know Barnabas with his strength  would not have had a problem killing Sam as he (Sam) was so preoccupied with seeing  Maggie after all the stress of her kidnapping but maybe he thought there were others around as already stated so why risk it?  I'm glad he did not kill them.  Barnabas would have been left as a truly vicious monster with no guilt for the sadness he caused those that cared for Maggie.
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