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Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« on: June 14, 2008, 03:31:26 AM »
[spoiler]Technically speaking, Roger Collins married his grandmother? Obviously the writers didn't seem to care, but I think it would've been slightly more sensible to have a son of Quentin/Carl/Judith be the father of Roger and Elizabeth. This need not be featured prominently in the plot, he could be away at boarding school during 1897 much the way Gabriel and Edith's kids are in 1840. [/spoiler]
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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2008, 04:17:10 AM »
I never thought of this.... it just makes things creepier and more unsettling.    Creepy subtext under the overt creepiness... good going, DS!
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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2008, 04:21:45 AM »
Yeah but poor David!! Maybe in like 1996 he developed a genetic disease having to do with the fact that he has inherited several genes where he had two copies identical by descent (since Roger clearly shared some genes, approx 1/4 of them, with Laura)

Hopefully, since she's a phoenix genetics principles don't apply to her and her offspring.
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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2008, 05:19:11 AM »
Puts a new light on Loius Edmund's blooper, doesn't it? lol

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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2008, 02:02:08 AM »
the fact that laura marries into the family and bears children every hundred years certainly does open up the possibilities for inbreeding doesn't it?i never thought of that before.yuck.

because of the constantly changing timeline when is the family next due for some drama with laura?

2066?2095?2097?
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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2008, 06:24:39 PM »
If one believes Isaac Newton's prediction, The Collinses won't have to worry about Laura trying to lure her child(children) into the flames again in any of those years because the world is going to end in 2060.  [ghost_wink]  Too bad, Laura - it looks as if, aside from David Radcliffe, you weren't very successful.  [ghost_cheesy]

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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2008, 08:57:34 PM »
If one believes Isaac Newton's prediction... the world is going to end in 2060. 

Eh?    I'll be 102, and dead, so I don't care, future generations, feh.... but what's this?
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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2008, 12:13:34 AM »
Dang, I won't have senior citizen benefits for nearly as long as I'd like if the world's going to end in 52 years. >_>

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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 12:18:58 AM »
That possibility has plenty of ick in it, as far as I'm concerned...
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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2008, 04:44:55 AM »
[spoiler]David is Burke's son.[/spoiler]

I know that's hinted at, but I doubt the show would have really gone there because it would have effectively [spoiler]ended the Collins family line forever![/spoiler]

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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2008, 12:53:36 PM »
I tend to believe that it's a little more than hinted at, especially considering the way Roger puts it, [spoiler]"David was born almost 8 months after we were married!"[/spoiler]
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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2008, 05:58:44 PM »
Though there is such a thing as a real [spoiler]premature baby.  [ghost_wink][/spoiler]
And one thing that writers love to do is put an alternate spin on what's real just to keep the audience guessing until the actual truth comes out, which in this case most likely would have been that [spoiler]David was indeed Roger's son.[/spoiler]
We especially should believe that when there was never any real evidence otherwise beyond Roger's remark (and he and Laura exchanged barbs with each other as often as most other people exchange pleasantries) and what Laura may have hinted to Burke (but Laura was a master manipulator when it came to Burke because all she was interested in was getting him to do her dirty work - she would have implied anything and everything if she thought it would motivate Burke, so anything she may have done with him is highly suspect).

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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2008, 03:39:52 AM »
True, true. But DS is a soap, and which outcome is more interesting and, well, soapy? :P Although, seeing as how Laura's a supernatural creature, [spoiler]David could very well be Burke AND Roger's son. DC only knows what kind of births phoenixes have.[/spoiler]

But, yeah, as far as the main topic here goes, Roger [spoiler]married his grams[/spoiler], and that is something the writers really should have looked at before writing it into the story. Wonder if any daring fans have mentioned it to the surviving writers? [ghost_rolleyes]
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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2008, 06:20:45 PM »
I know that's hinted at, but I doubt the show would have really gone there because it would have effectively [spoiler]ended the Collins family line forever![/spoiler]

Well we know that David happens to look identical to the Collins' little boys of the past. So either he is roger's son, or Burke was somehow related to the Collins family. (unless it was one of those inexplicable resemblances, such as Sebastian Shaw and Jeb Hawkes, lol...)
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Re: Has anyone ever mentioned that ...
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2008, 06:50:25 PM »
Imagine if Burke had turned out to be a Collins! Whoa!  [wow]  That would have turned so many things on their heads - especially if it had been revealed when Burke and Roger/Liz were at the height of their feud!