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Discuss - Ep #0459
« on: May 17, 2013, 05:26:32 PM »
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0459
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2013, 08:30:39 PM »
Thayer David becomes the first male actor to read--and very nicely too--the opening voiceover.

More outstanding work from the all-male cast: LE, JF, TD, and JC. Joshua is utterly heartbreaking in his pride and sorrow.

Now that Naomi is dead, Joshua drops his stoical mask so that we can see the anguish beneath the surface. He is amazed that almost with her last breath, Naomi told him she loved him. He wonders if he's really capable of loving anyone. He tells Barnabas that he has sent Riggs to have six silver bullets made. [But revolvers wouldn't be invented for something like 40 years.] Somehow he brings himself to pronounce the almost unspeakable words, telling his own son that after sunrise, he will shoot him in the heart. But that gives Barnabas enough time to kill Nathan. Joshua protests, but Barnabas reminds him, You cannot stop me. No one can.

Fantastic scene at the Eagle with Nathan and Barnabas--and sad to recall what good friends they were before Angelique ever came to Collinwood. Nathan shoots Barnabas--with no effect whatever. I cannot die because I am already dead, Barnabas says slowly and deliberately. Do I frighten you, Forbes? he asks, savoring Nathan’s terror to the full. I do not plan to kill you--at least, not here and now. Later, Forbes--after you’ve had time to think about it. Nine o’clock, he declares, looking at the clock on the wall, which reads 8:30. When the clock strikes nine, you will die. Then Barnabas simply vanishes.

In a panic, Nathan races back to Collinwood. Showing that he has given tacit consent to Barnabas's plans, Joshua tells Nathan that Barnabas is a vampire. Coldly he tells Nathan that he tried to stop Barnabas--but only because he didn't want any more bloodshed. As the older man rises to leave the room, Nathan pleads, Aren’t you going to stay here with me? I wouldn’t be any protection, Joshua answers. And I don’t want to see what is going to happen to you. He leaves.

Next, Nathan begs Ben to tell him how Barnabas can be destroyed, pointing out that Ben would have his (N.'s) blood on his hands. Ben hesitates, then says, All right, I will. The way to destroy ’im is to drive a wooden stake through ’is heart. With gloating laughter, he continues, Durin’ the day, ’e rests in ’is coffin. If ye go to ’is coffin tomorrow mornin’ and drive a stake through ’is heart, you’ll destroy ’im. With a triumphant chortle, he winds up, Only you won’t live that long. Tomorrow mornin’, you’ll be dead!

Nathan hurries to the study and pleads with Joshua one last time--until he notices the crossbows and arrows mounted on the walls. Of course it wouldn't be a fair fight for Barnabas if Nathan didn't attempt to defend himself. But will he succeed?….




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Re: Discuss - Ep #0459
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2013, 11:52:44 PM »
[spoiler]Strange to think these events will happen "again", differently, because of time travel, "later".  Also, when these scenes play out again, Ben will say many of the exact same things that Joshua said the "first time around".  ***  I have a problem with how this whole storyline is winding up, and it's Barnabas going willingly to his destruction.   Maybe his mother's death could do that, but it's not apparent that that's why.   I'd pictured his being dragged forcibly to the coffin or something, and chained up screaming, unrepentant because he's not human by that point.   Then that leads to 1967 Barnabas.[/spoiler]   

The barmaid is overcome with a need to lie down after looking at a bat for ten seconds, so Barnabas can have an unseen, uncomplicated conversation with Forbes.   I like Nathan's being stunned that Barnabas isn't human.   But what did he think was happening, I wonder.

We hear the third and fourth utterances of the word "vampire", by Joshua and Forbes, respectively.   Melodramatic NO!!! from Barnabas, instead of just stepping out of the doorway and not being shot.
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0459
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2013, 12:30:04 AM »
The barmaid is overcome with a need to lie down after looking at a bat for ten seconds

*dies laughing*

Regarding your spoiler, I would think that simply being chained in a coffin for about 170 years would be enough to make anyone cranky.

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Re: Discuss - Ep #0459
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2013, 07:04:16 PM »
I'm surprised they didn't have the barmaid read the voiceover as it was always done by a woman.

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Re: Discuss - Ep #0459
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2013, 07:33:22 PM »
Ben learns Vickie is gone and suspect Forbes.  The confrontation with Barnabas and Nathan was very satisfying and leaving him to torture over his fate. 
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0459
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2013, 07:47:20 PM »
Regarding your spoiler, I would think that simply being chained in a coffin for about 170 years would be enough to make anyone cranky.

You're probably right, but an anticlimax still.   (And thanks.)
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Re: Discuss - Ep #0459
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2013, 06:45:47 AM »
Naomi is dead. What a waste. Poor Daniel is left without a nurturing mother figure. No happy Hollywood ending here. I like knowing Joshua is willing to help Vicki & Peter escape. Too bad nasty Nathan has to ruin any chance of any happy ending by turning Vicki over to the authorities. I have to say, I am gonna love sweet Joe Haskell all the more when we get back to the future/present. It was heartwarming that Naomi & Barnabas got to have their final conversation. The conversation between Joshua & Barn was emotionally powerful on several levels. And I got my answer as to why Joshua hadn’t succumbed to the curse. I also got my answer as to what Joshua may have meant when he told Naomi he may have found the answer to Barnabas’ curse in Boston – which I believe Naomi thought him amusing her – but that cure is the silver bullet. It looks as though Nathan will get his comeuppance. Why in goodness’ name would Joshua tell Nathan anything regarding Barnabas? Ben is certainly enjoying the Nathan Forbes show - isn’t he - lol.

Ouch! That hurts! What a cliffhanger, eh? Perfect Friday episode – don’t know if it was though.

Random Thoughts: I think I would have realized that this was Thayer’s first OVO since I joined the WP but I can’t say for sure I would’ve realized it was the first male OVO since the show started. In these past two episodes I feel like Edmonds is slightly overacting. Perhaps he’s had enough of this character and storyline. This episode seemed like an hour – not that it was bad or boring.

And finally, it is easy to understand why life/nature did not give the penis eyes.