Author Topic: Discuss - Ep #0710  (Read 1705 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Watching Project

  • Guest
Discuss - Ep #0710
« on: January 16, 2009, 11:24:41 PM »

Offline Lydia

  • The Tattooed Lady
  • FULL ASCENDANT
  • ********
  • Posts: 7945
  • Karma: +21178/-65913
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Discuss - Ep #0710
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2009, 04:18:10 AM »
Isabella Hoopes looked as though she was having a ball haunting Quentin.  Funny, I clearly remember not liking Edith much in 1969.  I didn't know much back then!

Humbert Allen Astredo has a difficult job to do.  Just a few weeks ago, he was a minion of the devil.  Now he's a human being who was dealings with the devil, and he's got to make this human being a separate character in the eyes of the audience.  His face is much less mobile as Evan Hanley.  His mouth barely moves, and we never see Nicholas Blair's big smile.  But when he starts performing the Satanic ceremony, he becomes as commanding as Nicholas was.

So Quentin hoped to use Jamison in the ceremony without harming him?  He's kidding himself.  I once watched a documentary whose exact subject I can't remember.  A convicted murder was saying that anyone could end up committing murder.  He had taken a gun with him to rob a gas station with no intention whatsover of using the gun, and lo and behold, he ended up using the gun and killing the gas station attendant.  It could have happened to anyone!  And here's Quentin taking Jamison with him to conjure up the devil with no intention whatsover of harming Jamison.  Well, it looks as though Jamison may have gotten off scot-free, but if he has, that's pure luck.

IluvBarnabas

  • Guest
Re: Discuss - Ep #0710
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2009, 08:18:51 PM »
I too am appalled that Quentin was willing to use Jamison in his and Evan's black magic ritual. They ARE dealing with the devil after all. Lucky for Quentin Edward never found about this or he would have wrung Quentin's neck and I wouldn't have blamed him one little bit.

 I don't doubt that Quentin adores Jamison, but unfortunately he's not above using the boy for his schemes, even when it involves Satan.

I am also surprised that it never occured to either Quentin or Evan that once their forged will was read, naming Quentin as master of Collinwood, Edward and Judith would both fight to break the will. Maybe it did, and they both thought that it would be a losing battle, which I'm not so sure it would have been. One thing I do know is that Hell would have to freeze over before Edward and Judith ever accepted Quentin taking over Collinwood without a fight.

Offline Midnite

  • Exec Moderator /
  • Administrator
  • SENIOR ASCENDANT
  • *****
  • Posts: 10716
  • Karma: +717/-4900
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Discuss - Ep #0710
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 08:23:30 AM »
Whoa.  Evan revealed his plan to summon help from the flames of netherworld, and even after Quentin watched him call somebody or some *thing* forth from the darkness of the earth, it wasn't until something actually began to happen that Quentin realized they had gone too far.  DUH.  Does this mean that Quentin went along with it because he didn't believe it would work?  Evan did indicate once or twice that it might not.  Cuz if Quentin doubted it right up to the end, it might explain why he sanctioned Jamison's participation in the ceremony.

I, for one, am glad to be rid of "The great house at Collinwood stands deserted; the living have sought refuge elsewhere," etc. in the intro.  It was really getting old.

Offline EmeraldRose

  • Senior Poster
  • ****
  • Posts: 1587
  • Karma: +15965/-26143
  • Gender: Female
  • I Love DS!
    • View Profile
Re: Discuss - Ep #0710
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2009, 01:18:35 PM »
This was the episode when Quentin said, "There is someone who suspects us, the man who claims himself a cousin –– Barnabas Cousin... Collins" [signerror] One of the few times that David Selby made a mistake. [milestone] Hilarious. 

I'm warning you now.. I'm going to be repetitious and say "I loved..." many times in this post. There were so many things I loved about this episode! [snow_cheesy]

I loved it when Quentin heard Edith's heartbeat, saw her smiling in the coffin, and her ghost haunted him in the dream! It was thrilling, exciting, and funny all at the same time! When I saw the expression on Edith's face, I laughed so hard! [snow_laugh] It was so hokey!...And when Quentin said, "You're Dead!" Oooh! It was great! Excellent! It isn't surprising to me at all that he would be so scared of Edith's ghost. (I still wonder if it was really Edith's ghost or if Barnabas caused it to happen.)

I loved to see Sandor at work, negotiating the price for his expert calligraphy. I love the way he said, "calligrapher". I also loved it when Sandor told Jamison, "It's going to be DARK soon!" to scare him away.  Oooh! [snow_smiley]

Another thing I loved, was when Evan was performing the satanic ceremony. It was so exciting! HHA does an excellent job on those incantations! I loved the bug-eyed expression on Evan's face as he looked into the flames when the skeleton head was coming out of it. [snow_wow]

I agree with Midnite... Quentin probably figured that the ritual wouldn't work, so Jamison wouldn't have been harmed. I wonder who Even thought they were going to conjure up? [snow_huh]

-----  Sally -----
 [snow_bigglass] [hippy2]
----- Sally -----
[snow_bigglass] [hippy2]

Offline dom

  • Long Lost Cousin Returned
  • Global Moderator
  • SENIOR ASCENDANT
  • *****
  • Posts: 12188
  • Karma: +591/-43347
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Discuss - Ep #0710
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2009, 07:59:25 PM »
I also loved it when Sandor told Jamison, "It's going to be DARK soon!" to scare him away.
I really got a kick out of this DS moment! I remember laughing out loud the first time I saw it. Didn't Jamison scream as he ran out the door? (Or am I guilty of DSFMS?) I remember thinking that it was so uncharacteristic for DS but so wonderful and so "real". It's one of my favorite DS moments.

Offline Pansity

  • Senior Poster
  • ****
  • Posts: 700
  • Karma: +3280/-104
  • Gender: Female
  • Who's Sorry Now?
    • View Profile
    • Jeannie's David Selby Site
Re: Discuss - Ep #0710
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2009, 11:54:11 PM »
I have to add another one to Sally's "I loved" list. 

I loved Quentin have the you know what haunted out of him by another vindictive spook.  Poetic Justice for 1969.  [evily]

Quentin the gravedigger, lol.  Anyone else wonder if that's the first time he's ever done an honest day's work? In his dreams.

As to Jamison's invovlement, I think at that stage Quentin beleves what he wants to, Evan says the boy won't be harmed, he wants to believe  it, so he goes ahead.  I do agree that he's pretty sure that nothing will happen, so he doesn't think of real danger being involved.  I don't think he would have reacted as he did at the end, "We've gone too far!" if he had really believed they would invoke something.

Jeannie


My David Selby Fansite (performance & book reviews): http://jwmediafanfiction.com/jeanniesdavidselbysite

My Dark Shadows Fest Pictures site:
http://jwmediafanfiction.com/dsfestpics

Offline EmeraldRose

  • Senior Poster
  • ****
  • Posts: 1587
  • Karma: +15965/-26143
  • Gender: Female
  • I Love DS!
    • View Profile
Re: Discuss - Ep #0710
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2009, 11:44:51 AM »
I have to add another one to Sally's "I loved" list. I loved Quentin have the you know what haunted out of him by another vindictive spook. Poetic Justice for 1969. [evily]
Oh, yeah, Jeannie! I loved that, too! [snow_wink]

----- Sally -----
[snow_bigglass] [hippy2]
----- Sally -----
[snow_bigglass] [hippy2]

Offline MagnusTrask

  • * 100000 Poster!! *
  • DIVINE SUPERNAL SCEPTER
  • ***************
  • Posts: 29355
  • Karma: +4533/-74802
  • Gender: Male
  • u r summoned by the powers of everlasting light!
    • View Profile
    • The Embryo Room
Re: Discuss - Ep #0710
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2009, 03:49:42 PM »
It occurred to me, what if Q were still spooked by ghosts in 1969 (original 1969)?  He's just finished terrorizing David for that day, then Beth comes up to him and he jumps back ten feet because he's still scared of ghosts....
"One can never go wrong with weapons and drinks as fashion accessories."-- the eminent and clearly quotable Dark Shadows fan and board mod known as Mysterious Benefactor

Offline Pansity

  • Senior Poster
  • ****
  • Posts: 700
  • Karma: +3280/-104
  • Gender: Female
  • Who's Sorry Now?
    • View Profile
    • Jeannie's David Selby Site
Re: Discuss - Ep #0710
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2009, 02:07:33 PM »
Oh I like that!  A spook spooked by spooks!  What a fun story idea it would make.  Would be an interesting take on Casper.  [snow_wink]

Jeannie


My David Selby Fansite (performance & book reviews): http://jwmediafanfiction.com/jeanniesdavidselbysite

My Dark Shadows Fest Pictures site:
http://jwmediafanfiction.com/dsfestpics