Quote from: Pansity on June 14, 2006, 12:31:15 AM

I liked McCoy and Spock's father, Sarek, the best.

OMG!  Me too!  McCoy was da shit!  And Sarek, well, I don't have a limited edition, signed pencil sketch of him on my wall for nothing!   

That artwork of Sarek sounds cool.  Mark Lenard (rest his soul) -- boy does that bring back memories.  I was involved with his fanclub way back in the days when the dinosaurs roamed fandom.  Again, the kneejerk reaction.  I saw when I joined that the club had an outdated credit list, so I hauled my little teenage self down to the Lincoln Center Library of the Performing Arts and did a search -- the old fashioned, pre internet way.  Documented everything in this really cool scrapbook that I still have.

And (to keep this at least peripherally on topic) I am probably the only theater wonk who would really like to get their mitts on David Selby's Doctoral thesis on the history of the American Place Theater.  And Selby being the author is just the added bonus --pipe dream as I know it is,  I would REALLY like to read the work on the company, since Mark Lenard and so many of the Trek stock company of stars and guest stars worked with them in their NY theater days.

Quote from: Pansity on June 14, 2006, 12:31:15 AM

Same with many other fandoms over time, especially Star Wars.  Luke was the hero, the one all the publicity materials focussed on -- Han was the scoundrel with the sarcastic sense of humor (similar type to Quentin come to think of it).

Again, I totally agree, you can have your Luke, give me Han! 

Han, Indy, Quentin: all in all Scoundrels DO have more fun!   

Happy belated birthday!!   Sorry to have missed it -- can I wuss out by saying it was cause I celebrated MINE that day too? 

Jeannie

Interesting thread as I have been reading through the posts.  One thing I didn't see mentioned, though, was the fact that the main characters, Quentin, Angelique Maggie and Hoffman were STRAIGHT out of DuMaurier's Rebecca. I think a lot of the weaknesses of the plot come from that: Quentin has to be a bullying jackass, Maggie has to have a backbone of limp linguinini (Keep in mind that the 2nd Mrs. DeWinter didn't even have a NAME) Hoffman/Mrs. Danvers is an obsessed psychopath in love with Angelique/Rebecca, who is rotten to the core beneath the veneer of adoration and perfection.

The thing that makes PT  interesting to watch is how they took is how they combined that plot and Jekyl and Hyde and threw in the original things and it still all worked.

You raise some very interesting points here.  I'd never thought about the parallels ( no pun intended) between Barnabas and Yaeger, but once you mention it it really does seem obvious.  And especially so in the Maggie obsession that you use for your example.

I remember  having come in as a kid with Chris the werewolf and the NICE Barnabas.  Then, the first time I saw the series through, I was totally shocked by seeing Barnabas as a psycho stalker.  Had he stayed that way, I don't think I would have had the same sympathy for the character.  Even at that, seeing it straight through did change the wholehearted sympathy I had had for him at first.

As to whether anyone would have cared if he was dispatched?  Probably not.

Good thing Dan Curtis DIDN'T get what he wanted, else DS would probably have been cancellled on schedule.

Just some thoughts on the various and sundry posts on the badges.  I've been attending and working Science Fiction and Media conventions since the 70s and have been on a few concoms.  This is MY educated guess on why they do it this way (I have NO connection with the Fest, so this is just my opinion and doesn;'t mean I am right!)

My experience is all cons of this nature do the badges at the event itself, with a registration process of some sort.  Why not mail them out?  Well, for starters, expecially with a bi coastal committee like this one, maybe those who process the incoming registrations don't have access to the equipment etc to run up the badges.  Those might be done on site right before the con, when you have all your dogsbodies (read committee members and volunteers) handy to make up packets and print out badges and put them together. And that's the other factor -- the hands and sheer time to make up all those badges. As Nancy points out, this is NOT a paid job, the organizers do this around jobs, families and REAL LIFE.  So, they are looking for the most time effective way to do things.

Then, if you mail them, there's the inevitable losses to the Pest Offal-- not to mention all the people who wont even bring their receipt with them  -- no matter HOW many times you ask them to -- because they don't read the instructions.  So, you have to make the things up again on site, which is more time and money to essentially do the job twice.

Oh, and as to the issue about late mailings -- don't know how many people here go to Science Fiction or Media conventions, but late mailings of con materials tend to be a standing joke.  Mediawest, a nearly 30 year old media con (sort of like a writer's convention, with panel discussions, etc. as opposed to actors speaking and performing), has a running rep for being late to the point where people are waiting for the day when the progress reports are handed out at registration.  It's par for the course, like the sudden schedule changes, at any fan run event.

My heavenly viewing this weekend was seeing Selby in the Saturday night movie, then Frank Langella and James Naughton on Sunday's Tony Awards-- 3 of my '70s heartthrobs. 

Thank you, MB, for getting the Forums back intact!  

Ditto on the thanks to MB!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I dont want to THINK about how hard it is to get something like this board whipped back into shape.  Must admit I felt like a jinx -- every time I had gotten over here  for a bit, next thing I knew the board had gone down.  Can we get Magda to put a curse on your server?

As to the movie, haven't seen it all the way through yet (got a phone call halfway through from someone I'd been in eternal phone tag with, so have to have time to watch the tape for the last half).  Seemed to me that it was better than average Sciffi fare -- watchable, with a standard SF -plot with some inspiration from Forbidden Planet and various and sundry disaster movies.

Ah, Frank Langella -- boy does he bring back memories.      I remember seeing him in his last performance of Dracula on Broadway (back when tickets to Broadway didn't cost a small fortune, oh those were the days!).  FYI he was even better looking on stage -- or when he came out afterwards from the cast party, shirt half undone......

LOL reminded me of a thought recently, of 70s hunks with their lovely long hair.  Look at pics of Langella, Selby and Harrison Ford then -- and look at the super short cuts they all favor NOW.

I know she's been unable to get over here for a while due to computer issues (long story; she can get on line but has problems with this board, which a few of us have been trying to help her with). So please know she's not being rude by not thanking everyone.  If it's not too presumptuous I'd like to thank everyone for her.

I talk to her on IM so will convey everyone's good wishes.