When I was younger, I'd have to say I was more than a bit like Carolyn, and shared her taste for bad boys.  These days, I'm a bit more like Julia, as I am also unswervingly devoted to one man.

Maybe Willie suffers from Stockholm Syndrome.

That's the only way the whole scenario makes sense, something like that.  But as MB says, maybe that makes sense psychologically for this character: he's been beaten down and abused for so long that he actually feels an affinity with his former tormentor.

Plus, there's the whole blood slave thing.  Since Barnabas is once again a member of the undead, does that 'reactivate' Willie's enslavement?

Let's face it, there were times when DS got SERIOUSLY cheesy.  I guess I love it all the more for those moments when they just went OUT there, come hell or high water.

Yes, the fact that they laid on the cheese sauce rather heavily at times plays no small part in my admiration for the show!  Where else can you get comedy (albeit sometimes unintentional), melodrama, horror and high flown fantasy all at once? 

Okay, last night I finally sat down after a long holiday weekend to watch my tape of last Friday's episodes.   When I got to the end of the second of those eps, I about jumped out of my chair (not to mention my skin) when Jeb opened Paul Stoddard's coffin to find that dumbass picture of Dennis Patrick inside.

WHAT was up with THAT?  Surely even when this show first aired, they HAD to realise how utterly STUPID that looked!!!  Were they HIGH when they filmed that?

Of course, once the shock of first seeing that scene wore off, I rewound the tape to watch again, and was that time overtaken by a fit of laughter from which I'm not sure I've yet recovered.   

Any other thoughts on this, which has to be one of the weirdest things ever seen on this show?

Chiming in with the majority here, which I ain't always known for doing.   

Can't STAND Roger Davis as any character he plays.  He is least objectionable as Peter Bradford in 1795, but still...

Chris Pennock gets off to a rocky start as Jeb Hawkes, who is way annoying and arrogant, but does have a sexy body.  His acting got lots better by the time the Leviathan storyline ended, and he was quite good as Cyrus/Yaeger and as Gabriel Collins.

And yes, the "hairbrush scene" is riveting in it's own sick way.  [shkdy]

That was a brilliant assessment, Luciaphil!  When you look at Carolyn's men one by one like that, the relationships do seem like something that might happen in the real world, particularly Carolyn hooking up with Jeb when she was at a low point in her life.  That is a time when it's easy to make the wrong choice about lots of things, particularly romantic relationships.

Now, I'm with everyone else - I can't stand Jeb, and don't like the two of them together but it does make sense, given the circumstances.  Aside from that mickey in her drink yesterday, I don't think he really had to work any of his hoodoo to get our Ms. Stoddard.  And has anyone noticed that the two have something in common?  Jeb said in a recent ep "I always do what I feel."  That could be Carolyn's motto, too.

But it is too bad that Tony Peterson didn't happen to come back into the storyline, he and Carolyn weren't much alike, but complemented each other quite well.  And unlike many of the men she chose he wasn't a loser.

I think everyone has a good point here.  ProfStokes is spot on about the 1840 Angelique not knowing anything about the other timelines save for 1795, and therefore not being as far down the road to redemption as we might think.

But I think Vlad has a point too, the writers seemed to have been moving us emotionally in the direction of sympathy towards Angelique because of her 'helpfulness' in 1897, and what she did for the gang in 1970.

Dr. Lang you could be right - maybe the 1840 Ange IS the one from the original 1795, or she could be from even another thread of time.  Who knows why Barnabas forgave her, that's never made a lot of sense to me...unless he thought the forgiveness would help her to rest in peace, so that she wouldn't come back to wreak more havoc in his life. It reminds me of a line from Buffy "Forgiveness isn't given to a person because they deserve it.  You give it because they need it."

And of course, Jennifer I have to agree with you too.  All this time travel stuff can make my head spin like I'm on nitrous oxide at the dentist's office, lol!