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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0092
« on: November 09, 2011, 03:39:15 PM »
Nice points about the food, guys!

Mr. Garner Senior tells Vicki that Collinwood used to have a full staff of servants--two chauffeurs, three cooks, an upstairs maid, a housekeeper, gardners, a handyman, and a butler. But no downstairs maid?

I like young Frank--he's very personable. He and Vicki would have had a nice romance if fate had allowed it. But I guess Vicki--who wanted to be a circus acrobat when she was younger--secretly wanted to walk on the wild side.

But Vicki is really naive if she thinks she can tell her whole story to Richard Garner without realizing that he'll promptly retail the whole thing to Elizabeth. Sheesh.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Brian Sturdivant
« on: November 09, 2011, 03:28:13 PM »
I liked him too. I thought having the bellhop was an inspired idea, and he grabbed the part and ran with it, once again proving that there are no small roles, only small actor.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0091
« on: November 08, 2011, 07:20:35 PM »
Well yes, Elizabeth's dress IS nice. I remember those print patterns.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0091
« on: November 08, 2011, 04:25:45 PM »
Unfortunately, I can't say anything about Vicki's dress, but I will take Lydia's word for it that it's nice.

Also unfortunately, my old notes say I couldn't ID the piece that Elizabeth is playing on the piano--while the clock is striking! It might have been Liszt, so more proof that she had pianistic chops. But I think this may be the last time we will every see or hear her play.

Vicki tells Elizabeth that David asked her to stay. Elizabeth thinks that's odd. Perhaps she thinks it’s extremely odd, and that’s why she gazes at the ceiling as Vicki and Carolyn are about to leave the drawing room.

Thunder begins to rumble as Carolyn orders coffee at the diner for herself and Vicki. It continues throughout the episode, especially when Carolyn tells her mother that Burke drove Vicki to Bangor, and she's probably spilling all the Collins family secrets to him.

And yes, Vicki probably should have taken the bus to Bangor, but I do like it that her answer to Burke is always that she stands on her own two feet.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0090
« on: November 06, 2011, 05:33:21 PM »
I'll bet he hasn't--although he might have staged one for the kitten he drowned. As a cat lover, I find that horrendous, but at least it was only a pretend kitten. Unfortunately, people were much more casual about cruelty to animals back then.

Elizabeth and Roger's father died before David was born. Nobody seems to mention his grandmother.

On a lighter note, Vicki finds the ledger page in her former prison, and Carolyn mentions the Garners, her family's lawyers.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0088
« on: November 06, 2011, 05:29:30 PM »
In those days, any self-respecting heroine wore only tulle nightgowns!  [hall2_smiley]

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0087
« on: November 06, 2011, 05:21:22 PM »
We will find out eventually that [spoiler]Sam didn't exactly blow the fifteen grand.[/spoiler]

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0089
« on: November 04, 2011, 02:59:32 PM »
Interesting thought, joeytrom!

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0089
« on: November 04, 2011, 12:13:13 AM »
CRISIS AT THE CANNERY! CRISIS AT THE CANNERY!

The Collinses have NEVER had any competition, so any competition at all would look like a shot across the bow. And because they have no competition, I'm sure they don't offer any of the perks that employees get (or used to get), such as health insurance, paid vacation days, paid sick days, etc. I get the impression that Maine's economy was kind of depressed in those days, so I'll bet anyone in Collinsport who had a job with Collinsport Enterprises considered him- or herself lucky.

Here's a link to George Matthews's (Amos Fitch) bio at IMDB. He played a lot of tough guy.

And yes, John Baragrey was wonderful. Too bad he didn't get more screen time on the show.

MT, are there really no more sardine canneries left in the U.S.? How sad indeed.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0088
« on: November 03, 2011, 02:56:44 PM »
I wasn't surprised to see the seaweed on the floor--the writers had to make sure it was still there so Roger and Elizabeth could find it later. 

Spoooooooky story, Lydia! It reminds me of the one--no seaweed, however--in which a mysterious young girl hitches a ride with a guy, who lends her his sweater. She gets out of the car at a deserted house, but the young man is so smitten that he forgets to ask for his sweater back. After asking a lot of people about her, he finds out that she died years before--and finds his sweater, neatly folded, on top of her tombstone.

Okay, I'm willing to concede that Vicki's robe looks like something from John's Bargain Stores (if anyone remembers those). At least Elizabeth's caftan had a few stylish features, however unfortunate they were.

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0088
« on: November 03, 2011, 12:36:08 AM »
Vicki's robe is pretty awful, isn't it? But not more awful than Elizabeth's yellow caftan thingy.

If David is an incipient psychopath, maybe he should be institutionalized, not just in therapy.

I think Elizabeth is treating Vicki's ordeal more seriously than Roger is. Maybe she's too dignified to use the secret passage--which I'm sure she knows all about--but she was the one who made Roger go with her to the room where David trapped Vicki.

And yes, Carolyn's reason for wanting Vicki to stay is that Vicki is the only person she can talk to about Burke--but you'd think she'd want to sympathize with Vicki for even just a nanosecond.

Well, at least Vicki has decided to confront David--which is more than his family seems willing to do....

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0087
« on: November 02, 2011, 05:40:58 PM »
My husband, who is highly knowledgeable about nautical matters, says that Maggie got the sail names right but didn't specify the rigging. But her main goal was to impress Joe, and she certainly accomplished that. And she plies him with enough coffee to to keep him at the cottage till after 2:00 a.m., even though he probably has to get up for work at something like 4:00 a.m.

In her terror, poor Vicki has doubled the number of rooms at Collinwood from 40 to 80, possibly reflecting her fear that whoever is looking for her will take quite a long time to find her.

Before Roger opens the secret panel (hooray!) in the drawing room, he carefully turns out all the lights--but leaves the fire burning merrily away. Later, Carolyn comes downstairs and is surprised to see that the drawing room is empty--but surely she knows about the secret panel herself.

We also see the spiral staircase for the first time, I believe. It will figure prominently in two other storylines that I can remember.

Once again, Roger shows his cruel streak, maybe so he'll look like more of a hero when he finally releases Vicki from her prison. But then there's that seaweed....

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0086
« on: November 01, 2011, 12:15:08 AM »
Have fun with your little visitors, Lydia!

I think David is clever, but also only 9 years old, so he doesn't have much future-planning smarts. I don't think he would think about the wrench or the key.

And yes, Vicki blew her chance when she didn't try to push the door up.

Burke marrying Carolyn--wotta concept!  [hall2_shocked]

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0086
« on: October 31, 2011, 09:06:36 PM »
Almost forgot that the last scene contains a classic (at least to me) blooper. There must have been a lot of spy novels in the orphanage library, and Vicki must have read every one of them. She very ingeniously uses a hairpin to push the key out of the lock on the outside of the door. So far, so good, but when the key falls out of the lock and onto the floor, the prop person laid it down below the middle of the door, not off to the side where the lock is!

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Current Talk '11 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0086
« on: October 31, 2011, 08:55:14 PM »
I can't get over how callous Roger is about Vicki. He really doesn't care what happens to her, and it just proves that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Very cute exchange between Burke and Carolyn about the chiefs of Carolyn's "tribe."