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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0982
« on: September 25, 2015, 11:59:50 PM »
Well, Mrs. Johnson does the meals and the cleaning. And way back in 1966, we got a shot of Matthew Morgan trimming shrubbery with some wicked-looking hedge clippers. And Willie looks after Barnabas, somehow.

But aside from that, all those other mundane things just seem not to happen.

Just had a thought of Barnabas arriving on the island of Yap in the South Pacific, where they used to use big giant stone wheels as currency. I'm sure he'd have a few of those too.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0981
« on: September 25, 2015, 11:56:21 PM »
Yes, perfect!

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0983
« on: September 25, 2015, 08:14:03 PM »
Yes, I guess this must be Don Briscoe's last VO.

Quentin barks out orders at Chris. I think when he's talking to Maggie, Chris is [spoiler]trying to be diplomatic even while his comments are totally ironic. I suppose Angelique must have tried and failed to add his name to her Little Black Book. But poor Maggie can't see the irony and takes everything he says literally. [/spoiler]

Yes, Quentin does glare at the mention of Angelique's name. [spoiler]But we won't find out why for a long time.[/spoiler]

Nice Lydia 2010 comment about PT opposites! Very apropos.

I don't remember if the cliffhanger of the invisible hummer was ever resolved. [spoiler]It might have been something the writers threw in, figuring they'd work it out somehow later. I always assumed it was some manifestation of Angelique.[/spoiler]

Sorry about all the spoilers! The two kids are having fun, aren't they! It seems that Hoffman has been giving Daniel extra hating lessons. The whole "conferring with the gardener" business is straight out of Rebecca. I wonder who did the actual humming--it sounded like an adult voice.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0981
« on: September 25, 2015, 08:05:01 PM »
Ha ha, yes, MT! And Vampire Portia would have given Barnabas quite a run for his money!  [ghost_grin]

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0981
« on: September 25, 2015, 03:37:11 PM »
We'll find out more about all the flowers a little ways down the line.

I liked Portia, and I wished she had had more to do, but I guess the actress got a better offer elsewhere in RT, if not in PT.

I guess Maggie is the designated Heroine no. 1, so she gets the biggest hair--?

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0982
« on: September 24, 2015, 11:41:34 PM »
Maybe Barn has a couple hundred on him. Presumably in PT, he didn't have to hide Naomi's jewels in the basement of the Old House

Funny how Carolyn thinks Barn is treating her like a one-night stand!

I suppose what Will does at the end could be interpreted as saving Carolyn. But at least this early in the story, nobody is quite what they seem, and everyone has lots of different and even conflicting reasons for doing what they do. Well, okay, maybe not Hoffman. Or Barnabas. But almost everyone else.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0982
« on: September 24, 2015, 07:39:15 PM »
Maybe in PT, 1897 Quentin and Jenny had twin boys instead of a boy and a girl. Or else the twins were still a boy and a girl--she would have married out and left. But if Quentin and Jenny stayed together, they could have had another boy, younger than the twins. That way, Chris and Amy would be Collinses.

I suspect that Will developed writer's block and took to drink because it wouldn't go away and then Carolyn gave up on him.

Welcome, strange gold windowpane plaid jacket of Quentin. Those 1970 clothes!  [ghost_cheesy] And he breezes right out without even seeing that Maggie needs his help.

Will warns Maggie about the dangers of tannic acid and also--much more to the point--about not trusting Hoffman. Later, Maggie hears Hoffman laughing about her to Angelique's big giant portrait. Hoffman quickly hustles her out of the sacred precints and reminds her that dinner will be ready soon. I assume you’re going to change, she adds as she bundles Maggie down the hall.

So PT Will knows about vampires! Who would have thought! It takes him no time at all to make the connection between Carolyn's fainting fit, her scarf, and their parlor boarder. Farewell, JF, for now.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0979
« on: September 23, 2015, 06:39:04 PM »
I feel your pain! I once had a crown come out in my hand. I stuck it back in but had a very suspenseful day or so, hardly daring to chew till I could get to the dentist.

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0981
« on: September 23, 2015, 06:34:40 PM »
I remember that scene, actually. I guess there was no time for a reshoot if KLS had to race up to Tarrytown for the movie. In fact, [spoiler]soon Maggie will leave for NYC in a huff so KLS can be in the film.[/spoiler]

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0981
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:37:04 PM »
Great post, MT. I posted some thoughts about Barn in PT in the previous episode, but I suppose you're right. Barn will have to learn all over again that inevitably he'll get involved with people just by being with them.

This is the first full episode in PT. Grayson seems to having a blast channeling Mrs. Danvers.

We get our first inkling of PT Elizabeth's status when she frets to Hoffman that the checks haven't arrived.

So PT Quentin is married to PT Maggie! In our time, Maggie Evans is an only child. She probably would have liked a sibling, poor thing. Elizabeth talks about the two Evans girls and concludes, It will be odd having one of them come back as Quentin's wife. (Evidently parallel Sam Evans was successful enough to move to New York.) Hoffman agrees concisely, but looks very displeased. Not noticing, Elizabeth continues, I’ve been worried about Quentin since Angelique died. I hope he will be happy now. He was happy before, Hoffman says sourly, happier than he will ever be again. He had everything. Did he tell you what room he wanted? Elizabeth asks. No, Hoffman replies, I will take care of it. Elizabeth watches her stalk out of the drawing room and up the stairs.

Ever the gentleman, Barn apologizes to Carolyn and is concerned when she feels faint. And we also get an inkling of Carolyn and Will's financial status. Carolyn will tell her husband that Barnabas is a kind of parlor boarder. With a smile she says, I can tell him you rented a bedroom; we have talked about renting rooms. We are not rich as others are. Barn has to hide when Hoffman returns to glare at Carolyn. Carolyn asks Hoffman if she can sit for a few minutes. Hoffman stares at her, not bothering to hide her disbelief or her disapproval. Carolyn says irritably, Even when _She_ was alive, I was allowed to sit here. Hoffman tells Carolyn, I’ll be opening the suite down the hall, as Mr. Collins will be returning tonight. With his bride? Carolyn says with a big smile at the portrait of Angelique. Hoffman hesitates, then says yes and offers to look in on Carolyn later. That won’t be necessary, Carolyn replies. After Hoffman leaves, Barn is amazed to learn the name of Quentin's bride.

In their Boston hotel room, Quentin broods about returning to Collinwood. Even though she has never been there, Maggie is doing her best to fit in by wearing a smart pale green suit with an amazingly short skirt. She says gently, You used to sit this way in London when we first met--as if you were thinking about things I couldn’t possibly understand. You haven’t spoken since phoning Collinwood. Maybe we should have stayed away longer, Quentin says. You wanted to come back, Maggie reminds him. I think I made a mistake, he replies. Why do you hate going back to that house so much? Maggie asks. I didn’t say I hated it, he answers. It’s obvious that you do, Maggie says. Is it Angelique? Quentin starts at the name and walks out onto the balcony. I’m sorry, Maggie says contritely. Is it me you’re worried about? His distant look changes to a rueful smile as he turns toward her. I promise, I’m not as inefficient as I look, she says with a smile. I’ll be very good at managing the house. Offhandedly, Quentin tells her, Don’t worry about that--Miss Hoffman is very good at that. Then what is it? she asks. Oh, Quentin, please love me! I do love you, he tells her. I know you do, Maggie answers, staring into his eyes. You must never forget that--never, he says and they kiss passionately. Maggie suggests, If you don’t want to go back tonight, we could stay here in Boston and go to a concert. No, we leave tonight, he answers but softens the stern reply with a smile. As he holds her close, she can’t see the worry in his eyes.

At Loomis House, Barnabas gets his familiar basement room back to sleep in during the day. Carolyn is surprised when he brings her there. I never knew this room existed, she says. My husband still doesn't. Now I must find a coffin, Barnabas says. How do you know so much? Carolyn asks. He explains about parallel time and the different choices people have made in each time band, but she only stares at him blankly. He tells her, I came here hoping to escape what I am--but I failed. What choice did I ever have? Carolyn asks bitterly. In my own time, Barnabas tells her, you are the heiress of Collinwood. I would like that, Carolyn says. But Barnabas explains that our Carolyn's happiness is somewhat marred since her husband has just been killed. If he was expecting parallel Carolyn to feel sorry, he's disappointed--apparently there's little love lost these days between Carolyn and "Will" Loomis. He also tells her that Julia Hoffman is a doctor. Perhaps she is happier there, Carolyn comments. How did she come to Collinwood?Barnabas asks. Carolyn says, Hoffman came to Collinwood with Angelique. Sometimes it was hard to know who was in charge of the other. What do people know about Angelique? Barnabas asks. Everything, Carolyn replies. Ever since she was a little girl, Angelique always wanted to marry Quentin. She was Tim Stokes’s daughter. (Barnabas reacts to the name. Presumably in parallel time Ben Stokes married Angelique Bouchard, who came from Martinique with her mistress, Josette DuPres, in 1795.) Carolyn adds, Angelique outgrew her father when she became a Collins. Barnabas marvels at how much the same everything is, but how different. I’m starting to believe what you said about parallel time, Carolyn admits, but I don’t want to think about it right now. Did you like Angelique? Barnabas asks, but Carolyn whirls away from him with a frown. Barnabas notes dryly, You have answered my question. They leave for the cemetery to find a coffin before dawn.

Up in Angelique’s room, Hoffman addresses the portrait of her late mistress. So, _He_ is coming back--bringing _her_ with him. Even he must know that there can only ever be one Mistress of Collinwood.

In full Mrs. Danvers mode, Hoffman completely sabotages the bridal couple's return to Collinwood. Quentin storms out in a perfect fury--and not for the last time either, leaving an utterly bewildered Maggie to fend for herself. I’m afraid that coming back to Collinwood has upset Mr. Collins very much, Hoffman comments with a pleased smile. Suddenly alone in a great house that now seems dark and forbidding, Maggie watches Hoffman walk upstairs.

And we get our first dead-wife note[spoiler]--but far from our last![/spoiler]

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0980
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:12:23 PM »
Poor Carolyn! And poor Elizabeth, with her mother's heart, having to watch her only child suffer.

Now Carolyn will never learn that Jeb killed her father. But she'll never have those dreams again, so I suppose that somewhere in the afterlife, Paul has decided that Jeb has made up for it.

I have to say that I enjoyed watching Barn doing revenge killing. He's probably the most frightening winner ever. This case is particularly good. But Barn has to drop everything when the urge for blood overtakes him. In PT, won't it bother him that he'll be drinking the blood of people who look just like those he loves in RT? Or maybe he was hoping that he could find random strangers in PT.

Jeb's last dream message to Carolyn is sad but enough already. Here endeth the tale of the Leviathans.

In the East Wing, Barnabas is standing in the parallel time room, with The Life and Death of Barnabas Collins in his hands. (In the closeup, we can see he wears a small gold pinky ring on his left hand--did Jonathan forget to take off his own ring?) Why do I feel I belong in that other time? he wonders. Perhaps because my life was so different there? I must talk to you, Julia calls to him as she hurries down the hallway to the double doors. In dismay he covers his eyes. You shouldn’t have followed me, he tells her. When he looks up again to tell her to leave, the room has changed, and the music-box version of Ode to Angelique starts to play. Julia arrives just in time to see Barnabas in the parallel world. She tries unsuccessfully to break through the invisible boundary. Barnabas calls to her, and she can hear him, but he calls again, apparently unable to hear her as the bridge between the time bands starts to close. Once more she tries to breach the barrier, but she can’t. Almost in tears, she realizes he may be lost to her forever. No longer able to see or hear her, Barnabas turns away from the door and looks around him. How did it happen? he wonders. Why did the room suddenly appear? And what am I going to do now? Suddenly Carolyn Loomis asks him harshly, Who are you? And what are you doing in this room? He has no explanation.....

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0979
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:00:00 PM »
Yes, great Nick death! I don't remember Jeb getting ahead of the theme music, but there you are.

Hope your teeth stay firmly where they belong....

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0979
« on: September 22, 2015, 05:06:53 PM »
I never thought of it that way either until I read Uncle Roger's thoughtful post.

But knowing Angelique, there LITERALLY would have been hell to pay!   [ghost_grin]

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0979
« on: September 22, 2015, 03:42:43 PM »
"a spoiled version of Richie Rich"   [ghost_grin] [ghost_grin] [ghost_grin]

I always miss HAA when he isn't in the story. But [spoiler]luckily for us, he will be back in two more story lines![/spoiler]

Yes, it's lovely seeing the scenes with Carolyn, Roger and David. The actors have real connections here.

Uncle Roger, I had never noticed that Roger seemed to know Angelique. I wonder if he did meet Mrs. Rumson off camera. Or maybe it was just a big goof by the writers. Interesting to note that [spoiler]in the show at least, Roger is the only one of Angelique's various husbands who survives her.[/spoiler]

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Current Talk '15 II / Re: Laura 1785/1897
« on: September 21, 2015, 11:29:34 PM »
Very cool, Gothick. And yes, TD is wonderful here, especially in the finale, even as the whole story goes right off the cliff as usual!