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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0292
« on: September 04, 2012, 08:34:16 PM »
WELCOME, GORDON RUSSELL! According to one trivia page, this was his first script. I do like the voiceover he gave AM, which concerns "those at Collinwood who wear many masks."

Julia and Dave Woodard all but get into a shouting match because Julia won't give him a good reason for her what he refers to as her "unmedical activities." Julia tells him she's on the verge of a great discovery, and whoever helps her will share in the glory. But she is trying to protect not just Dave but also Sam, Joe, and Maggie herself. Please trust me just a little longer, Julia pleads. Lately she seems to be asking a lot of people to do that.

Poor Sarah is crying because she's lost her friend Maggie. Maggie Evans is dead, David tells her. No, she isn't, Sarah insists. I just don't know where she is. David asks her home for supper, but she says, People don't like it when I come. One wonders how many people at Collinwood she's tried to approach in her unique loneliness over the years--and how many of them she unintentionally frightened. With utter matter-of-factness, she tells David, You know all about leaves. I know when people are alive or dead.

Burke and Julia meet for the first time, and he's just as skeptical as Elizabeth was, especially given the yarn that Julia spins for him. She's saved from further questioning by Vicki, who burst in announcing that she's fallen in love--with a house by the sea.

Although she's uneasy, Sarah comes home with David, who leaves her in the foyer to tell everyone he's brought a friend home. But when everyone follows him out to the foyer, Sarah has gone. But Vicki finds her little cap lying on the floor.....



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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0290
« on: September 04, 2012, 03:55:48 PM »
And if I remember rightly, Isaac is wearing a full beard, which would have been okay in the 17th century--but not his 19th-century suit!  [ghost_grin]

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0290
« on: September 04, 2012, 02:55:27 PM »
I also wonder if Julia went out and bought herself some special nightwear for this occasion.

Knowing our Julia, I'll bet she did!  [ghost_grin]

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0291
« on: September 04, 2012, 02:47:09 PM »
I started wondering how Barnabas survived 130 years in his coffin without feeding, which led to the possibility that the coffin has protective qualities for a vampire (which might be why he spoke to Willie of the longing a vampire feels for his or her coffin), and how would Julia explain that?


According to Bram Stoker, Count Dracula needs the coffin--along with a sprinkling of his native earth--to protect him during the day. [spoiler]A long time from now, Barnabas will also make use of the "native earth" thing.[/spoiler]

Stoker also tells us that crucifixes and garlic are the first line of defense against vampires, in both personal accessories and decor.

Anyway, I've never met a doctor who didn't say something along the lines of This won't hurt a bit.  [ghost_cheesy]

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0291
« on: September 03, 2012, 05:18:40 PM »
What an absolutely electrifying episode! The other all-time best one!

Despite the risk she's taking, Julia disdains to protect herself; as she steps out of the shadows, we can see that not a single cross or crucifix is in evidence, now or anytime in the entire scene. But when she tells Barnabas she knows what he is, she gets his complete and undivided attention. As Barnabas moves to box her in against a bedpost, she doesn't waste a word but talks fast and to the purpose. Her hypothesis about why he needs to keep replenishing his blood supply isn't a bad one. Barnabas can't help being intrigued.

At the Old House, Barnabas (a gentleman even now) takes Julia’s coat. There are too many things I don’t understand, he explains. Your room was not the place to discuss them. [I wonder what he did while she was getting dressed!] He asks menacingly if anyone else knows the truth about her He isn’t satisfied until he chokes Dave Woodard's name out of her, but she insists (rubbing her throat again) that he doesn't know anything specific. [As a professional woman, she is so far outside his frame of reference that it apparently never occurs to him to use his vampiric powers on her.]

Barnabas summons Willie, who now has yet another person to worry over. Why not give her a chance? urges Willie. Because that chance may be my last mistake, Barnabas answers. I can’t risk everything. My existence may not be what it should be [LOL!]. But at least I have permanence. No--I cannot trust Dr. Hoffman, I can’t take that chance. I will do away with her--now. [During this fraught scene, a persistent fly is determined to play a starring role and keeps landing on Jonathan’s forehead, even remaining there for almost a minute before he brushes it away, but he gamely continues.]

As Julia prepares to leave, Barnabas blocks her way, telling her, It’s not possible for me to trust anyone. You’re wrong, Julia answers. I’m the one person you _can_ trust. I cannot permit your existence to continue, Barnabas says, coming closer. Barnabas, Julia answers, you’ll have to learn to trust me--I represent your entire future. [From the first, she always calls him by his first name, just as Willie does.] As long as I’m alive, you have a chance at life. Dead, I will be your downfall. How? asks the vampire. You will be named, Julia answers, and everything you have done will be told. Everyone will know what you are. Who? Barnabas asks, going for her throat again. To kill me is to find out, Julia answers. As he starts to choke her, she can’t hold out. Maggie Evans is alive! she cries out. Barnabas lets her go out of sheer surprise, but Julia (rubbing her abused throat yet again) adds, I assure you she is well hidden. Right now she’s suffering from traumatic amnesia, but eventually she will recover and will tell everything. I can see to it that her amnesia is permanent. Looking Barnabas in the eye, she repeats, My life guarantees your security. Destroy me and you destroy yourself.

And so the parameters of the most enduring relationships in DS history are set....

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0290
« on: September 03, 2012, 05:06:13 PM »
Wow, I'm with both of you there! This is one of the all-time great episodes. The last line is absolutely classic.

Dave Woodard meets Barnabas for the first time. Again, I wonder how Barnabas disguises his undead coldness when they shake hands. Maybe I'm making too much of it--or maybe Barn just didn't read Bram Stoker.

We get another very enjoyable verbal duel between Barnabas and Julia. It's diamond cut diamond--two perfectly matched opponents. Julia needles Barnabas by saying that Sarah was the only person the "original" Barnabas truly loved. Barnabas invites Julia over to the Old House--not tonight, but tomorrow evening. Julia drops a few hints about how closely he resembles the portrait of the "original" Barnabas in the foyer.

TONIGHT, Julia, now in her nightgown, turns down the covers on her bed. (This is our first look at Julia’s room, complete with the spindle-post bedstead.) Vicki apologetically tells Julia that she won't be able to help her after all. Julia says it's okay. Suddenly a dog starts howling. Vicki recalls nervously, I heard similar howling the night Maggie Evans disappeared. You’ll be perfectly safe tonight, Julia assures her with complete confidence. Go get a good night’s sleep--things will seem better in the morning. The clock on Julia’s nightstand reads 12:45.

Mrs. Hoffman, wherever she is, didn't raise any stupid children! The foyer clock strikes 2:00 when Barnabas suddenly materializes next to Julia's bed. He leans over and reaches out his hands, prepared to kill without compunction the meddlesome, interfering woman he considers his enemy. He is startled when a voice from the shadows calmly greets him. Good evening, Barnabas Collins, Julia says. I've been waiting for you for you for a long time--a _very_ long time.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0289
« on: September 03, 2012, 04:55:27 PM »
*bows low in awe* Wow, MB! I also have a VCR-DVD player, but neither the software nor the smarts to do frame grabs!

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0289
« on: September 02, 2012, 05:03:02 PM »
Wow, those changes are amazing! How did you get those frame grabs?  [ghost_grin]

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0289
« on: August 31, 2012, 06:58:48 PM »
Best line in this episode is from Carolyn: "Just call me Miss Jitters of 1967."  [ghost_grin]

This time, Barnabas visits Vicki in her own room at Collinwood--but he still can't bring himself to bite her. Instead he settles for the long haul and sets the music box playing.

Julia is now an officially established houseguest at Collinwood. While Carolyn goes to the kitchen for coffee, Julia quizzes Vicki on Barnabas. Vicki plays the music box and praises the music's "tinkling" quality. Once again, Julia is instantly alert. But Vicki departs in a huff when Julia insinuates that Barnabas is trying to recreate Josette.

The music box, Vicki's mention of Josette's jasmine perfume and even Vicki's huffy departure have enabled Julia to put everything together. Now she knows beyond a doubt what Barnabas was trying to do to Maggie--and what he plans for Vicki. She needs just one more piece of evidence to have the complete picture. Still fully dressed past 1:30 a.m., she puts on her raincoat and leaves for the Old House without even a thermos of coffee to sustain her.

With massive understatement, Barnabas tells Willie, And now it's time for me to go downstairs. Conveniently for Julia, Willie has to go to Bangor for supplies.

 I love Julia's determination to wait for as long as necessary to gather the final evidence. I also love, love LOVE her climbing in a window! At least she is smart enough to close it behind her.

For the first time, Julia descends the stairs to the basement. Downstairs, she finds the coffin resting on its plinth. Even though she told Vicki that she is afraid of nothing, she takes a deep breath before she opens it. With a mixture of fear and triumph, she gazes into the coffin. Her eyes widen as she sees-- exactly what she expected to see....

What fun to watch a smart, older woman applying her keen intelligence in the successful solution of a major mystery! I've always thought Julia Hoffman was a character ahead of her time.



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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0288
« on: August 30, 2012, 07:24:38 PM »
Julia rocks! She really isn't afraid of anything, even if she's taking some incredible risks. I can't think of another TV character like her, then or now.

I think Julia is working from the evidence that she herself has collected. Even without Willie's blood sample, the mirror test would prove her suspicions beyond a doubt.

David is scared when Vicki goes into Josette mode while listening to the music box. And we learn that he was named after an earlier David Collins, but since the earlier David is never mentioned again, we don't need to worry about him. Our David tells Julia about his friend Sarah, who looks just like the picture in the family history. Julia is immediately alert when David mentions that he's only ever seen Sarah near the Old House.

Vicki tells Julia about the maniac who kidnapped Maggie Evans. But you wouldn't know about that, she adds, and Julia has to play along. She's even more interested when Vicki says that the only mirror in the Old House is in Josette's room.

Burke really is turning into a first-class tyrant. We can at least hope that the writers have done this on purpose, but it's awfully heavy handed. But I suppose that in the mid-1960s, that was the best they could come up with for a plot twist that would make Vicki turn more and more to Barnabas.

Julia once again boldly goes to the Old House, makes herself comfortable and shows Barnabas the portraits. When she gets to Naomi, Barnabas can't resist taking the book himself, though he turns away from her. She encourages him to turn the page to see the portrait of Sarah, the “first” Barnabas’s sister. As she natters on about how much Sarah’s eyes look like his, in her riskiest move, she surreptitiously takes out her compact, holds the mirror at the proper angle, and sees-- exactly what she expected to see.

Barnabas angrily asks, What are you doing? But she pleads feminine vanity--even historians have to check their makeup. Even in the face of Barnabas's fury, she is utterly unruffled and tells him, I hope we can talk again. I love her self-confidence when she tells Vicki that she's learned everything she needs to know.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0286
« on: August 30, 2012, 05:42:56 PM »
 [ghost_grin] But Josette would have used a chamber pot, I suppose--unless off camera, Willie has discovered he has a hitherto unsuspected talent for installing plumbing.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0287
« on: August 29, 2012, 03:50:20 PM »
Vicki enthuses to Willie about how peaceful her night was, but she is immediately suspicious that he's backsliding when he asks her if she thought anyone was in the room with her. Willie protests his innocence in the strongest possible terms: I offered to take you home last night, remember? You know I wouldn’t hurt you. I wouldn’t want anyone to hurt you. Vicki relents and acknowledges, I actually felt safer in Josette’s room than I’ve ever felt in my life. Somehow Willie manages to hide his reaction.

Meanwhile, Elizabeth strenuously refuses to let "Miss" Hoffman write a history of the Collins family, even though Julia suggests it would give the family--and Elizabeth in particular--control over whatever information  reaches the media. (One wonders what kinds of tweets would be circulating around the town!) But Elizabeth is still haunted by the memory of her own long imprisonment and torment.

Julia watches and listens intently as Vicki describes how safe she felt at the Old House. Later, like Barnabas, she sits back and lets Vicki be her advocate in persuading Elizabeth. Vicki argues that telling the truth about the legends would weaken them--and besides she wants everyone to know what a Great Lady Josette was. Finally, after Julia has left, Elizabeth decides to let her write the history after all. She'll even let Vicki help, hoping that that will puncture Vicki's over-romanticized idea of the past. Vicki thanks her enthusiastically. Don’t thank me yet, Elizabeth says dryly. Up until now, the past has been sort of a dream for you. Now it might become a reality, killing the dream. Has anyone ever thanked anyone for the death of a dream?

This is Barnabas and Julia's first meeting (HOORAY!), but already we can almost see the sparks fly between them. Julia carefully examines the portrait of the "twentieth-century" Barnabas and promises Willie that she'll take the blame for intruding. Julia and Barnabas go through the motions and shake hands. [I suppose he has some way of simulating normal body temperature or otherwise disguising the undead coldness of his touch. Or maybe Julia simply makes a mental note of it without any outward reaction.] Then she sits without being invited to by the Master of the Old House as she offers him various inducements to let her help.  I’m just not interested, Barnabas says bluntly. No one who lives in this house could be uninterested, Julia says, but she finally takes the hint and gets ready to leave. I hope I’ll see you again soon, are her parting words to Barnabas. He stares after her, tension and hostility radiating from his every pore.

I know these are long posts, but these are such great episodes, full of character explorations!

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0286
« on: August 28, 2012, 03:46:21 PM »
Yes, Lydia, JF really shines in this episode. The depth of his portrayal in what might have become a campy, over-the-top role really made me love this show. JK also is brilliant.

And I'll bet Barnabas knows that Sarah has come back. I like the idea of Barn going down to the basement, hoping and dreading to see her. I'm sure she was trying to warn Vicki--or at least befriend her so that she could warn her. But Vicki is too taken with spending the night in Josette's room to be receptive. It was easier for Sarah to reach Maggie because Maggie was on the edge of madness and maybe readier to believe.

Willie really takes some big chances in this episode. I think that at heart he's still as incorrigible as he was up to the moment when he broke into the secret room. That incorrigibility was his weakness before, but now, along with his hard-won compassion, it's his greatest strength, because that's where his will to defy Barnabas resides.


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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0286
« on: August 27, 2012, 07:11:37 PM »
As the storm rages outside, Barnabas and Vicki have a highly interesting conversation about Josette and her lover, the man who pursued her to death. Barnabas almost pleads, He never meant her to die! Vicki says that she doesn't understand the kind of love that leads to death and destruction. With even more feeling, though still keeping his face turned away from her, Barnabas says, Perhaps Josette never understood him or the extent of his love. If he loved her, then he wouldn’t have frightened her, Vicki insists. Barnabas answers, Perhaps not. But I can’t defend everything he did--nor could he. These sad recollections have reactivated Barnabas’s dormant conscience, and he suggests (guiltily), The storm may be letting up. I don’t think so, Vicki insists. I must stay. Shortly afterward, she excuses herself and goes upstairs. Barnabas wishes her a good night and adds, I hope you’ll find everything you need. After she goes, he looks a little worried now that he has what he wanted.

Willie comes downstairs from somewhere and shows Barnabas Sarah's ball, which he found near the coffin. He suggests it belongs to "that little girl," which Barnabas strenuously denies. Meanwhile, while lying in Josette's own bed, Vicki hears Sarah singing "London Bridge." The  it's Willie's turn to be shocked when Vicki comes back downstairs. He offers to take her home, but she insists on staying. After she leaves, Barnabas makes snide remarks to the effect that Willie didn't use to be so thoughtful.

After Vicki goes back up again, Willie is terrified that Barnabas will punish him for his audacity. You can kill me if you want to, says Willie hoarsely, but I don’t want you to harm her. She never did anything to deserve it. Abruptly Barnabas changes his mind and asks Willie to stay and talk. But streetwise Willie guesses what's really going on. You like her, don’t you, Barnabas? he says. That’s why you don’t want to harm her, isn’t it? Barnabas turns and walks away from him. Willie presses his advantage, pleading, Don’t harm her, Barnabas! She never did anything to deserve it! Be quiet! Barnabas orders him, but Willie is persistent. You don’t want to do it, he insists. I can tell you don’t. But Barnabas orders him off to bed. Willie has to obey.

Barnabas enters Josette’s room. He looks longingly at Josette’s portrait, then approaches the bed. He gazes down at Vicki, deep in innocent slumber--and utterly vulnerable....

I think Barnabas is really in love with Vicki--at least as much as he can love anyone. This is not like Maggie, whom he didn't really see as a human being in herself, just as a replacement for Josette. He doesn't see Vicki that way at all.

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Current Talk '12 II / Re: Discuss - Ep #0279
« on: August 27, 2012, 06:54:35 PM »
I suspect Vicki's gown is white or pale cream. Barnabas says it's the one that Josette is wearing in the portrait, and that one is white. However, the portrait gown has long sleeves and Vicki's has little puffy ones. That shimmer is from the satin weave. Very nice.