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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0389
« on: February 11, 2013, 04:10:41 PM »
Wow, thanks, Lydia. That's all very cool! The Museum of the City of New York has Dutch period rooms, and I believe at least one of them has a Delft-tile fireplace, although I can't find any links on line.

The idea of faux-Delft tiles featuring scenes from DS is hilarious!

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0387
« on: February 11, 2013, 03:44:23 PM »
always, your comment makes me wonder what the childhood of those three sibs must have been like. Abigail might even have been older than Joshua. If so, she was probably just as bossy in childhood as she tries to be now. In any case, her opinion seems to weigh heavily with Joshua. If I remember, I don't think he ever dismisses the idea that witchcraft actually exists, at least not out loud. So maybe he hasn't sent Trask packing because he isn't really sure….

Jeremiah was lucky in some ways, because he is much younger than his sibs. It seems that Abigail didn't get a chance to boss him around so much. Maybe their parents died soon after Jeremiah was born, and Abigail had to run the house while Joshua ran the business. They do seem to make a team, and it might explain Abigail's resentment of Naomi, whom she probably regards as a usurper, and an incompetent one at that.

Don't mind me--I just enjoy this kind of crazy speculation.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0389
« on: February 10, 2013, 04:10:02 AM »
The tiled fireplace made its first appearance as Vicki's room, also in 1795.

Angelique isn't reluctant at all about hurting other people to get what she wants. She is utterly remorseless. No self-loathing there.

And yes, Barn should see the signs, but he is a thoroughgoing rationalist.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0389
« on: February 08, 2013, 10:47:31 PM »
Ugh. Angelique is particularly cruel, [spoiler]though not as cruel as she soon will be.[/spoiler]

Ben is so brave. He risks his own life to try to save Sarah. But all Angelique wants is for Barnabas to be willing to do anything to save his little sister.

This is one of the very few times we see Naomi and Sarah together. Clearly Naomi is a devoted mother, and the dress she is wearing today is especially pretty.

Angelique removes the pins as Sarah drinks the supposedly curative tea. And now Angelique is ready to collect from Barnabas….

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0388
« on: February 08, 2013, 01:02:30 AM »
I'm very sorry to hear it, MT. I will keep you in my thoughts.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0388
« on: February 07, 2013, 10:38:34 PM »
I hope you will feel better soon, MT. I think that by the end of the scene with Barnabas, Josette realizes that if she blames the supernatural for what happened, then all the tragedy was for nothing. We, the viewers, know that that actually is the case, but I think it's rather noble of Josette to take the blame for everything that has happened.

I forgot one interesting sartorial observation from my notes on the first scene: By the fire in the drawing room, Angelique is giving the depressed and apathetic Barnabas one of her famous headache massages, and we have what counts as almost total frontal male nudity on this show: Barnabas is in ivory shirtsleeves, without weskit or jacket! Anyway, with his headache cured, he puts the rest of his clothes back on. (He’s wearing a pale silk damask weskit in blue tones and the green jacket. We can see that shirt cuffs are attached to it, in addition to the cuffs on his own shirt, hidden beneath the jacket.)

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0388
« on: February 07, 2013, 09:51:05 PM »
I think Trask will stop at nothing, even if he has to fight dirty. The only thing he cares about is a trophy.

Clearly captivated by Josette's beauty, Trask has a field day with the mark on her hand. She concedes that bewitchment may be the reason for her strange behavior, and indeed, she feels clearer-headed when the mark vanishes. Trask decides he must exorcise the evil spirit from her. He is in the middle of his ritual when Barnabas stops him, just at the moment he (T.) has dared to put his hands on either side of Josette’s face (as part of the cure, of course).

I remember that the scene with Barnabas and Josette was almost too painful to watch--beautifully done by both.

Much later, Barnabas is brooding in his room when Angelique arrives. Clearly her attitude has changed. Kneeling at his feet, she asks him, "Why didn't you come to me? I waited for you." There's no sex on this show, not even OFF screen! But by the time she leaves, she knows that he will never, ever come to her willingly.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0387
« on: February 06, 2013, 11:22:21 PM »
Funny about that 15-minute walk, dom. In 1968, Vicki is almost the only person who still walks down the hill to the Old House. Everyone else seems to drive. Sheesh.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0387
« on: February 06, 2013, 08:59:44 PM »
Some good lines in this episode, plus brilliant work by JL as he interrogates the household. He does not ask permission so much as he announces to Joshua that he intends to question everyone in the house, including family members, servants, and guests. Very well, Joshua agrees--as long as you don't create a scandal that would blemish the Collins family name.

André is more than a match for him in what is probably David Ford's finest hour on the show. He declares indignantly, I trust the record, if there is to be a record, will show that I proceeded under duress. And also, we may be fortunate enough to show that I was questioned by a complete idiot.

Joshua is still watching as Trask has much better luck with Angelique herself--at least he thinks he does  (great work by LP here too). We find out that interestingly, she was never baptized, which Trask thinks is a character flaw. My parents died when I was very young, she pleads. I fear the Almighty, and I know nothing of sorcery. The devil has never tempted me because I have such a strong loyalty to my god. Dropping to her knees and clasping her hands, she tells Trask, I want to be a child of religion! I feel closer to God than I ever have before! This instantly gets the Rev.’s close attention. She puts on a brilliant performance. He listens with unwitting, amusingly lascivious rapture when she says, You have filled my being with righteousness! I feel a strange sensation throughout my body! I see a man and a woman conversing in a new, empty house! Is there a new house nearby? Trask asks. Joshua tells him about the New House, which is about fifteen minutes’ walk from the Old House, at the top of the hill. The two men immediately set off. Still kneeling, Angelique smiles triumphantly.

Vicki thanks Nathan for the food. Once more he warns her about her foolish talk. She barely escapes from Joshua and Trask--at least for now….

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0386
« on: February 06, 2013, 08:45:42 PM »
Interesting thoughts, MT, and of course I'm glad you agree with me that the tree thing was just plain silly.

I wonder what kind of reception the Reverend Trask would have gotten from viewers during the heyday of the Moral Majority and the Reagan era. JL does such a great job that Trask pushes all my rabidly anticlerical buttons.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0383
« on: February 05, 2013, 05:10:17 PM »
I should also have mentioned that Sarah probably had a pony. I'll bet Ben taught her how to ride.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0383
« on: February 05, 2013, 04:37:28 PM »
MT, that sounds fantastic! I'm even more jealous of you!

Interesting ideas, Gothick! I suspect that they would also have had a butler and a footman or two. [spoiler]In the last episode of all, in parallel 1840, we meet "Harris, the second footman"![/spoiler]

Ben tells Angelique that he knows all the horses' names, so I imagine he took care of them as well as chopping firewood and carrying buckets of water from the springhouse to the kitchen and any other kind of heavy work that needed to be done. [spoiler]Soon we will learn that he can make simple dolls and knows at least basic carpentry. [/spoiler]

We know that Jeremiah and Josette had their own horses. Barnabas and Joshua would have as well. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the countess was an expert horsewoman, but I can't imagine either Naomi or Abigail riding. Maybe Naomi did as a girl, but once she was married Joshua probably insisted that the Mistress of Collinwood should travel only by carriage.

Too bad we never see Cook, I agree. I'll bet the bad food at Collinwood was also a long-time tradition.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0386
« on: February 05, 2013, 04:26:12 PM »
Even the first time I saw this story line, I thought the tree test was ridiculous. I imagine that if Trask had found Vicki still tied to the unburned tree in the morning, he would have found some excuse for keeping up his accusations of her. People like Trask need someone to be their prey.

Hooray for the countess, who seems to have changed her mind about Vicki.

Trask refuses to answer any of Barnabas’s questions. Furious, Barnabas reminds Trask, We Americans recently fought a revolution for our rights. He declares, I am defending the right of this girl to be judged innocent until proven innocent! (I didn't make this up, Jonathan must have flubbed a line) and stalks out.

My question is, What are the writers trying to tell us by implying that Barnabas's very rationalism turns out to be a dreadful mistake???

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0383
« on: February 04, 2013, 07:22:28 PM »
I'm sooooo jealous! [snow_cheesy]

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0385
« on: February 04, 2013, 03:54:43 PM »
I'm spluttering over your last paragraph, MT!

Possibly in honor of Trask's arrival, Abigail is wearing a second costume. Trask very improperly calls her "Abigail" when he should refer to her only as "Miss Collins."

Maybe it's better that Abigail didn't prick her finger while embroidering--no doubt she would have blamed it on Vicki.

AM is actually pretty good here. At first Vicki is pathetically slow to realize she is in danger of her life, but all Nathan's predictions are fulfilled, and more.