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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0444
« on: April 26, 2013, 07:07:24 PM »
After supposedly rescuing Millicent from the alleged Collinsport Strangler, Nathan asks Naomi for a moment alone with Millicent. Naomi reluctantly retreats. It’s difficult to leave you, Nathan tells Millicent, because I love you and always have. You seem changed, Millicent observes. I warn you, I’m the same man I’ve always been, Nathan declares with perfect truth. Having snared Millicent completely, he tells her, I love you very much. He kisses her on the forehead and hands the pistols back to her. Naomi takes Millicent (now in tears) back to the house. Nathan grins at their retreating figures.

Later, when Millicent visits Nathan in his conveniently two-doored room, she says, I realize now that your first concern was for me. After a great deal of dithering on her part and some subtle coaxing on Nathan's part, she finally admits, I have misjudged you--and I want you to stay. You were right to be hurt and angry, Nathan tells her. But I swear I love you. She falls into his arms, but since her head barely comes to his shoulder she can’t see his triumphant, wolfish grin. Nathan needs to take just one more step for his plans to come to fruition.

I always thought that Millicent is mentally unstable. The world she inhabits is almost entirely imaginary.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0443
« on: April 25, 2013, 11:50:31 PM »
I also liked the kinder, gentler Natalie. She almost certainly is thinking of Josette as she tries to steer Millicent away from Nathan. Maybe she's hoping Angelique will come back so she can confront her.

As for the earlier Natalie, I think she was concerned about what kind of family her beloved niece was marrying into. As a woman who seems to have traveled greatly and is greatly cultured, she probably didn't have much use for a family of people who had never left Collinsport--except for Barnabas, who as we all know, went to Martinique. But she always treated him with great fondness.

Bradford going to Salem doesn't make sense, but it does keep him out of the show for a few eps. [easter_wink]

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0442
« on: April 25, 2013, 09:32:02 PM »
MB, it was very interesting to see what you said about the response to this episode when it first aired. I've always thought that DS had a surprisingly strong anticlerical streak, and I always wondered what people thought about this episode. Thanks.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0443
« on: April 25, 2013, 09:29:08 PM »
Yes, I did like Natalie in this episode. Besides her finally coming to realize that Angelique--whom she always thought of as totally ordinary--was the witch, I liked how she appealed to Millicent's sense of propriety in attempting to talk her out of seeing Nathan (gasp!) ALONE at the gazebo. Nonetheless, Millicent goes anyway, schlepping the box with the pistols with her.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0442
« on: April 25, 2013, 03:39:48 PM »
I don't find it so odd that Nathan tries to talk Trask out of going to the Old House. Trask has promised to help Nathan in his career in exchange for his perjury, so I suppose Nathan has some vested interest in keeping him alive. And who knows, Nathan may have some tiny trace of good left in him, or at least a nagging conscience.

After Nathan finds out from Trask that Millicent looked as if she wanted to stop Naomi from tearing up his (N.'s) letter, he warns Trask one more time, You must not go to the Old House! Then Nathan leaves, never to see Trask again.

Barnabas tells Ben, "I am planning some entertainment for my guest, to be followed by a "reward" for his treatment of Victoria Winters." The "entertainment" line is pretty good too. Ben looks sick with dread, but Barnabas clearly is enjoying himself. For some reason, he's not wearing the famous onyx ring, but maybe he just didn't want to get mortar on it. From this point on, Ben has no part in the proceedings, and we have to assume he's off drowning his sorrows somewhere.

After Nathan leaves, Trask hears Abigail's summoning voice. Come to the Old House, she tells him again. He picks up a candle and looks around the room fruitlessly for the source of the voice. I will obey your summons, he calls out. Setting the still-burning candle down, he leaves his room at the Three Bells for the last time. After he does, some unseen agency blows the candle out.

Yes, how DID Trask find out that Barnabas had died? Did the doctor blab? That doesn't seem likely, though, especially since Barnabas supposedly died of a plague. 

I think Barnabas was so bent on revenge for Vicki that he didn't want to waste time trying to persuade Trask that Angelique was the witch. I think it might have been more effective for him to show Trask some incontrovertible proof (I don't know what) and break his spirit. But I suppose DC couldn't resist the opportunity to steal yet another plot (from "The Cask of Amontillado").

When I first saw this ep., I thought it was pretty strong stuff for daytime TV.

 

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Who Watches Orig. Series....
« on: April 24, 2013, 07:04:03 PM »
Ep. 160 is earlier than when I started (very occasionally) watching. They began with the arrival of Barnabas, which is somewhat later. Sounds like you've got the Phoenix story too. I don't know how far they go up to, though.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0441
« on: April 23, 2013, 10:57:11 PM »
"A woman" vs. "such a woman"--I'm afraid I don't have the episode available to watch, so you might be right. On the other hand, as I mentioned on another thread, wouldn't he have felt obliged to fulfill the biblical order to "be fruitful and multiply"? [spoiler]Remember, we do know that he had a son (1840) and a grandson (1897).[/spoiler]

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0441
« on: April 23, 2013, 09:04:45 PM »
This supernaturally busy episodes (two ghosts and a disembodied hand!) does have a comic moment when Nathan comes to visit Trask. After hastily covering Maude with a sheet, Trask opens the door. He tries to keep Nathan from coming into the room, but Nathan gets a glimpse of Maude's hand sticking out from under the sheet. Nathan finds the whole business incredibly funny and apologizes: I would never have intruded if I'd known you had a guest, he says, adding, You’re a man after my own heart! She was there when I arrived, Trask replies with massive understatement. To Trask's consternation, this actually raises him several notches in Nathan's eyes. With a grin, Nathan marvels, I’ve never found them waiting for me when I come home! I would never have anything to do with such a woman, Trask huffs, adding flatly, And she's dead.

I love Naomi (1) in that gown; and (2) in protective mother lioness mode when she defends Millicent against Trask.

Trask actually owns one garment that isn't black--his brown dressing gown. The whole dream sequence is pretty scary.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0440
« on: April 21, 2013, 09:19:14 PM »
If Maude's fireplace has fake blue Delft tiles around it, then yes, it's the one from Vicki's room at the Old House.

If I remember, Maude's room above the feed store is right up under the eaves. And a very sad and shabby little room it is, littered with Maude's pathetic scraps of finery but totally devoid of any sort of cane whatever.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0440
« on: April 21, 2013, 04:37:35 PM »
Barnabas comes home from not killing Maude Browning to find Ben breaking every rule in the Collinwood servants' handbook. He is actually sitting in a chair by the fire in the drawing room.

In his room (the fire still smokes) Trask is trying to peruse a large tome when the candles in his room suddenly go out (the stage lights go out first), and stay out despite his best efforts to keep them lit. The scene with him and Nathan is very good, comic in some ways.  Nathan listens intently as Trask describes the black onyx ring--the very ring Nathan used to see on Barnabas's first finger--and that Maudie saw on her attacker’s hand. But luckily for Barnabas, Trask is so panicked that Nathan can't make him listen when he insists that Barnabas is responsible. Trask insists his visions are Vicki’s doing.

Maybe Barn's powers are the result of his vampirism. He has a(n admittedly limited) number of options in the shape-changing department, and he can Dematerialize at will. But he thinks more about revenge than about the consequences for Vicki if he kills Trask. That could very well be one more side effect as his humanity recedes further and further into the past.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0438
« on: April 21, 2013, 04:29:53 PM »
I think the hatch is an oven for baking bread or whatever. They would have piled more wood directly onto the fire.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0439
« on: April 21, 2013, 04:24:39 PM »
Why didn't Ben leave? For one thing, he knows that Barnabas would hunt him down without mercy. For another, as Barn suspects, under Ben's revulsion at Barn's actions is a deep sorrow and even pity for the man who, after all, taught him to read and write. Ben knows that Barn doesn't want to do the things he does.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0439
« on: April 20, 2013, 05:34:17 PM »
I'd have a hard time choosing my favorite Barnabas-Ben scene, but this one is right at the top!

You’ll go on with me then, says Barnabas. There’s nothing either one of us can do. Ben leaves, knowing his life will be spared but also knowing he must obey.

Barnabas orders Ben to get a brass ring, but an iron one would have been more practical.

Welcome (I guess), Craig Slocum. Vala Clifton (Maude) does the opening voiceover because she is the only female in this episode. Tarty fashion note: Maude wears a rather trashy Incroyable-style gown in pink and white striped damask, with a pink underdress, along with the inevitable 1960s banana curls.

And yes, JC was terrific as Nathan in this episode!

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0438
« on: April 19, 2013, 06:41:20 PM »
Now that I think of it, you are probably right, and Trask probably has stayed at the Three Bells since his arrival. Joshua wouldn't have wanted Trask at Collinwood (Old or New) because of the (all together now) scandal that would arise if the town knew that a witch finder was a guest at Collinwood.

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Current Talk '13 I / Re: Discuss - Ep #0438
« on: April 19, 2013, 02:23:16 PM »
Yeah, he's staying at a rooming house in Collinsport. [spoiler]In a couple of episodes, Nathan will visit him, which he couldn't have done if Trask were still at Collinwood.[/spoiler]

Presumably Trask had to leave Collinwood after Abigail died, since he was her particular guest. Maybe Naomi threw him out after the scene they just had, but if she did, it's too bad it happened off camera!