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Title: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: jennifer on January 23, 2005, 03:22:01 PM: We are buried here in Boston and i'm so thrilled that i don't have to work today (have been on all the last major
snow storms!) i always thoght it funny that it never snowed in Collinsport which i believe was in the heart of MAINE!
they wore winter coats but you never saw vicki or carolyn in LL Bean attire guess the cold never bothered
Barnabas LOL! i plan to watch a few DS DVDS in between a few million loads on landry before the Pats game!
hope we don't lose the power as i hear batteries are sold out a lot of places! Bring on Spring training PLEASE!

take care everyone and stay safe!

jennifer 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gothick on January 25, 2005, 09:26:22 PM: Hey Jennifer, hope you guys are OK out there! My landlady's son did the sidewalk with his snowblower so all we had to do was dig out my roommate's car which only took about an hour on Sun.

I haven't gotten hold of any of the DS DVD's. I may get the set with Julia's vamping by Tom on it just to try out the format. I really need to replace all of my Cassandra tapes--a couple of those have not worn well, probably because I play them more frequently than most of the others.

I love watching Patsy Stone on "Ab Fab." As a small child my Mom's best friend was named Patsy, so I always smile when I see all the signs around town that say "Go Pats!"

here I am in a world of my own,

G.
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Heather on January 25, 2005, 10:23:04 PM: Quote from: Gothick on January 25, 2005, 09:26:22 PM
I haven't gotten hold of any of the DS DVD's. I may get the set with Julia's vamping by Tom on it just to try out the format. I really need to replace all of my Cassandra tapes--a couple of those have not worn well, probably because I play them more frequently than most of the others.

DVD set #9, Steve - it's a MUST-HAVE {squeal}!!

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I love watching Patsy Stone on "Ab Fab." As a small child my Mom's best friend was named Patsy, so I always smile when I see all the signs around town that say "Go Pats!"

Holy s****, my sister and I LOVE that show...oh... ;D

We're digging out fine in W. PA, but now half the people I know are sick, so it all evens out in the end, ya know? ::)

Hugs,

Feverish minx [homework]
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gothick on January 25, 2005, 10:28:37 PM: Pats in that photo looks like Laura Collins in her 2005 return to Callanwood: "Eat THIS, Barnabas!"

Heather, you and your sister have SUCH good taste--have I mentioned that before??? Yup, I think set 9 of those DVDs has my name on it.

xo, G.
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 26, 2005, 07:50:44 PM: The only reason this topic was moved from CE/A '05 to Current Talk, unlocked and uncensored (you might recall that on CE/A '05 the system had transformed its title to "**subject-I-shouldn't-be-posting-about**!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"? [wink2]) was because jennifer wrote us to say that she'd mistakenly posted it on CE/A '05 and what she'd really wanted to talk about was the strange lack of snow in Collinsport (and not this past weekend's storm). Current Talk is the board to discuss "DS storyline related topics or those directly related to the show itself" after all. ;) Unfortunately, though, discussion went in directions that seemed to be about everthing but the lack of snow in Collinsport, or even about DS itself, and that required some posts to be completely removed and others to be trimmed.

Any discussion about the strange lack of snow in Collinsport will be more than welcomed. However, further off topic discussion will more than likely result in those posts being removed...

Midnite, MB & dom
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Raineypark on January 26, 2005, 08:32:04 PM: Never mind the lack of snow.....where the heck was the RAIN?

Yes, Collinsport is in Maine and it snows in Maine.....but there was never really much said or done to indicate what season it was.....so the lack of snow could be forgiven.

But there were thunder and lightning storms galore.....where were the sheets of torential rain?

Where I live we get thunder and lightning storms all Summer long......and it's VERY odd to have them without tons of rain.
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 26, 2005, 08:55:15 PM: Quote from: Raineypark on January 26, 2005, 08:32:04 PM
Never mind the lack of snow.....where the heck was the RAIN?

I've posted about this before, but I was honestly surprised to see that in Chris Jennings' first episode (#627) Don Briscoe had wet his hair to indicate the rain. Thankfully, though, someone must have taken him aside afterward and told him not to bother doing that again because I'm pretty sure he never did.

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Where I live we get thunder and lightning storms all Summer long......and it's VERY odd to have them without tons of rain.

Same here. In fact, I have friends who live at the bottom of some of the city's high hills and the sump pumps in their cellars can often keep working for days and days after a storm. But apparently in Collinsport most if not all the rain drops evaporate before they ever hit the ground. And the same must be true of the snow flakes. [b003]
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dom on January 26, 2005, 09:13:23 PM: If Chris Jennings hair had not been mentioned (by MB) I would have said that one time I saw rain on Quentin's

[spoiler](as Grant Douglas?)[/spoiler]

trench coat. I know that somebody came through the front doors of Collinwood and had water (rain) dripping off the back of their coat. It was so odd to see an actual sign of rain that I had to do a double take. Perhaps it was Chris instead.
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on January 26, 2005, 09:48:52 PM: Quote from: dom on January 26, 2005, 09:13:23 PM
I would have said that one time I saw rain on Quentin's

[spoiler](as Grant Douglas?)[/spoiler]

trench coat. ... Perhaps it was Chris instead.

The scene with the trench coat was definitely Quentin. I don't remember if it was wet, but...

Quote from: Raineypark on January 26, 2005, 08:32:04 PM
but there was never really much said or done to indicate what season it was

...that was the episode in which David actually mentioned wanting to go Christmas shopping! Probably the one and only time Christmas was ever mentioned on the show. ;)
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: PennyDreadful on January 26, 2005, 11:25:20 PM: I seem to recall Adam dripping wet with rain in one episode, but I can't recall which one. I might be mistaken though as I haven't watched those eps in awhile.

- Penny Dreadful -
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: onyx_treasure on January 27, 2005, 12:38:50 AM: Barnabas always wore his coat even when the ladies were in short sleeves. I live in Maine and we have had sub-zero temperatures. My 1920 house is drafty and cold as the radiators are steaming away. I can only imagine how a cold, uninsulated mansion on a hill next to the ocean would feel. The ladies should all be wearing turtlenecks and wool sweaters in the house. I know oil was cheaper back then but I bet Collinwoods fuel bill would be enormous not to mention the fire wood. I wonder who split the wood, brought it into the house, and kept the fires fed. Mrs. Johnson? Tough old bird, isn't she.
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Miss_Winthrop on January 27, 2005, 02:42:42 AM: Julia's rain coat was spotted with rain once at the Old House. She came in and stood by the fireplace for awhile talking to Barnabas. When she left to go back out, the coat still had the same drops of rain on it.

I think that I heard over this past weekend that Bangor had temps of 34 below zero!
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dom on January 27, 2005, 08:31:36 AM: Now you guys got me wondering. Was there always a fire burning in the fireplace in the drawing room?
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Raineypark on January 27, 2005, 11:30:53 AM: I have no idea if there was ALWAYS a fire burning in that fireplace.....

But I'll bet that all of us always REMEMBER it that way..... ;)

One thing I don't remember, regarding Collinsport weather: I don't remember anyone EVER walking through the house, mopping their brow or fanning themself, and complaining of the relentless hot weather. :D
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Philippe Cordier on January 28, 2005, 06:47:09 AM: One thing I liked about Mark Rainey's "Labyrinth of Souls" online DS novel was his realistic depiction of the snow at Collinwood.
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: jennifer on January 29, 2005, 02:36:01 PM: i'm going to pull that episode of don briscoe that you mentioned MB to see guess i never noticed!
i always thought it was funny that they always wore the same type of coats year round
in Collinsport never heavy ones or boots as if the weather always was the same year round
they did seem to have a fire going all the time too dom i know they were near the ocean
but they do get summer in Maine how far up was Collinsport suppose to be??

jennifer
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dom on January 29, 2005, 03:05:06 PM: You know, someone mentioned in one of the WB pilot threads that this type show needs to have a "not of this world" type of feel to it. But I've always taken it for granted that the time of year on the show matched the real world. I guess it would be easy enough to prove because specific dates have been used on the show at times. So I guess one would only have to locate the episode number that is date specific and match it to the airdate. One might also take for granted (I am trying desperately not to use the word assume) that Vicki wasn't wearing those sleeveless numbers in the dead of winter.

Then there are those pictures (my all-time fave DS stills) of Barnabas outside the old house with snow at his feet. I wonder if that was a photo/promo type session or if they are stills from a location shoot that would have been used on the show? I would have to guess that fake snow back then would have been too much of a bother to use to show winter in Collinsport. Every outdoor scene would have to have had it in it, etc. Too messy, too time consuming to clean up, <insert lame excuse of your choice here>. Or perhaps they felt that it just wasn't necessary or essential to the plot to convey the seasons.

Of course, I stand by my belief that they just didn't give a crap to go that little extra.
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gothick on January 31, 2005, 01:51:46 AM: Hi Dom, the photos of Barnabas outside the Old House were taken at the Spratt Mansion (the original of the Old House) at a publicity shoot, which I think must have happened during the winter of 1967-68. As I am sure you know, the house burnt to the ground in a 1969 fire.

One of the fans once posted about her excitement (and briefly, I think, terror) when she drove past the house and saw "Barnabas" in the flesh walking on the grounds that day.

As for fake snow in the studio, my guess is that given how tiny the studio was, it really would have involved too many technical difficulties, and cleanup would have been a nightmare. I've wondered just how late into the wee hours the staff were up cleaning up the leaves whenever they had to stage the woods for the numerous scenes shot there.

xo Marsha
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Connie on January 31, 2005, 04:15:07 AM: Hi dom! [wave]

Hi Marsha......MARSHA? :o ((have you undergone some sort of change over the last few days that I should know about??)

Quote from: Gothick on January 31, 2005, 01:51:46 AM
I've wondered just how late into the wee hours the staff were up cleaning up the leaves whenever they had to stage the woods for the numerous scenes shot there.

If they were up late cleaning up leaves, imagine how late they were up fixing the 1995 mess!
I can't even figure out how they would have done all the fake snow and made it look halfway real. [hdscrt]
Yeah - the place was so small that if they attempted to blow snow all over the "woods", a good portion of it would probably have ended up in the Old House basement. [heh]

[hiding]

PS What's the sentiment behind these? ------------->> [icecream] [iroc]

(uh oh...I clicked on the additional smilies window again. LOVE IT.) [salute]
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Heather on January 31, 2005, 05:00:26 AM: Quote from: Connie on January 31, 2005, 04:15:07 AM
Hi Marsha......MARSHA?   :o   ((have you undergone some sort of change over the last few days that I should know about??)

I was wondering the same thing, sweetcakes... >:D

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Yeah - the place was so small that if they attempted to blow snow all over the "woods", a good portion of it would probably have ended up in the Old House basement.

And on top of Barnabas' coffin... the impudence! (mimicking ole Barn. there, kids)   ;D

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PS What's the sentiment behind these? ------------->> [icecream] [iroc]

[icecream] = 2 scoops is better than one. To quote the divine Julia Hoffman: "You can take that ANY way you like..." ;)
[iroc] = Nice ride... >:D

I love the new smileys too. Muy delicioso, MB (that's spanish for very delicious, for the uninitiated... chortle)

Methinks I should start a topic about demystifying the language of 'Heather, that odd chick/grasonphile from W. PA'    ;D
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Midnite on January 31, 2005, 04:45:08 PM: Quote from: Heather on January 31, 2005, 05:00:26 AM
Methinks I should start a topic about demystifying the language of 'Heather, that odd chick/grasonphile from W. PA' ;D

Heather, no one has said there's ever been a problem with your language. The issue, as I explained to you privately, was that the cryptic references you've made to fan fiction, games, and discussions on other lists aren't always understood by forum visitors that aren't on the Julia list or whatever other list or board you were referring to, and that posts containing captures that aren't from DS should include the name of the movie since not all the visitors to this forum can recognize one of Grayson's movies from a screen grab. Also, while NoDS, for example, is a generally understood acronym on a DS forum, SIHH, as another example, may cause some to scratch their heads if the acroynym is taken out of context on a general DS board. That is not at all a slam against the way you write, nor does it overshadow your many other contributions to this community.

I know you were making a joke with the above quote, but quite honestly, sarcasm leveled toward us on the boards isn't appreciated when our only intention is to make the forum a pleasant experience for all DS fans who visit here, and MB's intent in posting the internet abbreviations was merely to be helpful. I love reading about Grayson and it's wonderful that she's well represented here by her fans, but the fact is that sometimes a little extra explanation by a poster is needed-- for example, if a story is mentioned, the post might state where it can be read. Otherwise the references are a discourtesy to cousins and guests and may be better served in a PM. Thanks.
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Nancy on January 31, 2005, 11:20:22 PM: Quote from: dom on January 29, 2005, 03:05:06 PM
Then there are those pictures (my all-time fave DS stills) of Barnabas outside the old house with snow at his feet. I wonder if that was a photo/promo type session or if they are stills from a location shoot that would have been used on the show? I would have to guess that fake snow back then would have been too much of a bother to use to show winter in Collinsport. Every outdoor scene would have to have had it in it, etc. Too messy, too time consuming to clean up, <insert lame excuse of your choice here>. Or perhaps they felt that it just wasn't necessary or essential to the plot to convey the seasons.

Of course, I stand by my belief that they just didn't give a crap to go that little extra.

Dom, the photos you are speaking of were part of a scheduled shoot in Tarrytown at the Spratt House which served as the exteriors for the Old House. It had indeed snowed and was quite cold. There is a funny story that goes with that location shoot too that Jonathan Frid told a few times at festivals and in a video he did for the festival back in 1985. Jonathan and the photographers headed up to Tarrytown on a day after there had been quite a snow. Jonathan was just wearing the 1796 get-up and the cloak. They got on the Lyndhurst property where the Spratt House was located and while in route down the small hill to the house, the car either got stuck or there was some other problem with it, I don't remember. The photographer and driver got out and walked back towards town to get some help. They left the car on to keep JF warm. He was concerned about getting asphixiated (sp) and turned off the car after awhile. When he started getting cold, he got out of the car and started walking briskly around - remember, he only had on that 1795 costume and the cloak and that's all he had with him for the shoot. He was walking back and forth in an effort to stay warm and pass the time.

Meanwhile, some young kids found out that the Spratt House was near where they lived and being DS fans they wanted their older brother to drive them to see "Barnabas' House." The brother didnt want to and attempted to disabuse them of the notion that Barnabas even existed, let alone actually lived at the Spratt House. Finally just to get them to leave him alone, the brother agreed to drive them over warning them they were going to be disappointed when they got there. As the brother's car made the approach (and came upon the stuck car JF and the others had been in) he and the kids saw JF striding up and down in front of the Old House in full regalia. As Jonathan told the story, you could hear the kids whooping it up in the car - they had expected Barnabas to be there. It was the brother "who was ashen" when he saw JF as Barnabas in front of the house. Jonathan said when he came over to the car and the brother had time to collect himself and explain why they were there, JF explained why he happened to be at the Spratt House that day. Jonathan said that the kids were excited to see him so to pass the time and stay warm he "spooked" the kids all over the lawn swirling his cape around When the photographer and driver did return, evidently it got all over town Barnabas was at the Old House and numerous other cars started coming down that little hill on the Lyndhurst property to get a look.

Anyway, Dom, yes, the photos you see of Barnabas in the snow outside the Spratt House was a shoot. The reason for the shoot was to take photos for upcoming promotional items and the book covers for those awful novels.

Nancy
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Philippe Cordier on February 01, 2005, 04:31:22 AM: Thanks for sharing this story, Nancy. :)

It brings back memories of being a kid when DS originally aired, and how exciting it must have been to live near the "real" locations, not to mention seeing "Barnabas" in person!
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: PennyDreadful on February 03, 2005, 04:06:52 AM: Quote from: Vlad on January 28, 2005, 06:47:09 AM
One thing I liked about Mark Rainey's "Labyrinth of Souls" online DS novel was his realistic depiction of the snow at Collinwood.

Would you happen to know where I can find this online? I did a google search and couldn't track it down. Thanks! :)

~PennyDreadful~
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Midnite on February 03, 2005, 04:26:01 AM: Quote from: PennyDreadful on February 03, 2005, 04:06:52 AM
Quote from: Vlad on January 28, 2005, 06:47:09 AM
One thing I liked about Mark Rainey's "Labyrinth of Souls" online DS novel was his realistic depiction of the snow at Collinwood.
Would you happen to know where I can find this online? I did a google search and couldn't track it down. Thanks! :)

The search feature on the forums (our best kept secret ;)) brings up the link to WebBox where Mark most recently had it online, but unfortunately the story is no longer there. You could PM the author-- Mark Rainey-- or contact him through the website in his profile. Good luck!
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: PennyDreadful on February 03, 2005, 04:03:11 PM: Thanks Midnite! I'll PM him.
Title: Re: SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Countess on February 19, 2005, 06:45:29 AM: Had to laugh reading the posts about Collinwood's lack of snow, rain, etc. When I was a kid and watched DS faithfully with my best friend, we had pondered this very question and arrived at a conclusion that, to this day, satisfies me - at Collinwood it's ALWAYS Halloween! Although specific dates are mentioned throughout the run of the show, to me there was always a sense of suspended reality. Collinwood and its residents existed in their own world with, apparently, their own weather. Could you imagine how BORING the weather forecasts must have been? But the mood of the show felt like Halloween - dark, gloomy, stormy and a bit chilly with a good chance of dangerous lightning and absolutely no rain. [Wolfie] [Witch_Potion_Animated]. Ah, does it get any better than this?

Countess