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Title: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Patti Feinberg on September 08, 2004, 11:19:22 PM: Now, I don't really remember watching much/any of the '91 series (but, IIRC, I did...hmmm).

Why no discussion of it here?

Also...why no montages of '91 series? (Not that I would know who they are, which, of course, is probably the reason why.)

Patti

How long was the '91 run for? When did it premier? I do remember alot of commercials for it in the summer preceeding....(at least I think I do...FDSMS) ;)
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 09, 2004, 08:01:57 PM: Quote from: Patti on September 08, 2004, 11:19:22 PM
Why no discussion of it here?

We've actually had several discussions about it.

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Also...why no montages of '91 series?

Montages were posted on the VantageNet incarnation of the forum for the series' 10th anniversary back in 2001. It hasn't been shown (or released on DVD) since this version of the forum was created, so there really hasn't been any reason to post montages here. But just for you, here's a copy of the montage for the series pilot (though it's sort of squished because the actual montage is 620X542, but the forum's system will resize it to 528X461 for display in this post):

(http://www.dsboards.com/images/1991-01.jpg)

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How long was the '91 run for?

Thirteen hours over a ten week period.

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When did it premier?

Sunday, January 13, 1991.

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I do remember alot of commercials for it in the summer preceeding....(at least I think I do...FDSMS)

Actually, more than 20 different promos, ranging from 5 seconds to 2 minutes long, began airing in mid-December 1990, leading up to the January 13th debut.
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Raineypark on September 09, 2004, 10:06:54 PM: I suppose they won't get around to releasing it on DVD until the entire original series (including the pre-Barnabas episodes) has been released.

Has anyone attemtped to figure out (taking into account how often a new DVD is released) how long it will take to release the entire first series?
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Josette on September 10, 2004, 04:29:31 AM: You're probably right about releasing it on DVD, but it IS available on tape.
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: jennifer on September 10, 2004, 01:08:14 PM: Patti
not a big fan of it but i do love Ben Cross but it was better than half of the shows
of tv now! these reality shows are too much.Who wants reality i want Fantasy! ;D

jennifer
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Gothick on September 10, 2004, 04:57:39 PM: That's a great montage. There are some wonderful shots of Barbara Steele in there.

G.
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Cassandra Blair on September 10, 2004, 05:09:29 PM: Love the montage, MB - thanks! Does anyone know whether the '91 revival aired all of the episodes they shot?

I recently rewatched the whole thing and loved it, just as I did back when it originally ran. The revival series was my bridge back to the original Dark Shadows, and for that I will be forever grateful!
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Midnite on September 10, 2004, 06:04:42 PM: CB,

Liz's milkshake... Oh that is TOO funny.
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 10, 2004, 07:04:42 PM: Quote from: Cassandra Blair on September 10, 2004, 05:09:29 PM
Does anyone know whether the '91 revival aired all of the episodes they shot?

Yes, they aired all the episodes (though unaired footage was added to the Episode #1 and #12 MPI tapes).

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I recently rewatched the whole thing and loved it, just as I did back when it originally ran.

I think that the more I watch it, the more I love it. ;)
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Angelina on September 12, 2004, 10:32:42 PM: I remember watching & enjoying it when it first aired, haven't seen the tapes though. I don't recall too much about it overall but do know that I wasn't too keen on the '91 Willie. I also didn't like Cross as much as Frid -- Cross was still good but not as soulful as Frid.

I did quite like Angelique though. She was a lot crazier in the '91 version if I recall correctly. Not quite as overall enchanting & compelling as Lara Parker but fun to watch nonetheless.

It certainly looked better, very stately and attractive. No microphones or stagehands suddenly making guest appearances -- though some would say that those elements are part of what makes the original series so much fun. ;)

I agree with the sentiment that its better than the rubbish on these days. The reality show craze is so dire and embarrassing. :P
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Mark Rainey on September 13, 2004, 12:32:45 AM: If I recall, there is one blooper that was left in the 91 show; not sure which episode, but Joanna Going plainly calls Joseph Gordon Levitt "Joe" rather than "David." Probably kept in for old times' sake. :)
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Darren Gross on September 13, 2004, 06:11:04 AM: Oh there's more than one alright...There are boom shadows galore!
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Gerard on September 13, 2004, 02:31:43 PM: And those palm trees! Those blasted palm trees everywhere, and this was suppose to be Maine! Oh, those palm trees! How I hated those palm trees!

Gerard
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Raineypark on September 13, 2004, 03:32:08 PM: Sheesh, Gerard!......it wasn't the palm trees' fault that they were standing there!!!!!

Fault the idiot who set up those outdoor shots!
:D
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Gerard on September 13, 2004, 10:00:22 PM: Palm trees! Palm trees! Did you say palm trees? Aaaaaaah, palm trees! How could they have been so...so...so...sloppy as to have palm trees! Palm trees! I'm actually glad that the WB series didn't make it since it was basically filmed in the same locals and that meant that there would undoubtedly be........palm trees! Palm trees!

Okay, okay, calm down. Breathe. Maaaint...taaain. Maaain...taaain. There, I feel better now. Sorry for having such a...a fit. But everytime I think of those palm trees..... Palm trees! Palm trees! Who said palm trees! Aaaaaargh! Christinaaaaaaa!.........Bring me the ax!

Gerard
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Raineypark on September 13, 2004, 10:31:46 PM: Would someone please call Wyndcliff and book this man a room? Quickly!!
;)
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Darren Gross on September 13, 2004, 11:50:29 PM: Thankfully, all the palm trees were removed digitally for the pilot and would have been throughout the series...
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: onyx_treasure on September 14, 2004, 04:47:22 PM: Poor Gerard, I live in Maine and enjoy the beauty of the Hawaiian Spruce Tree with pinecones in the shape of pineapples or the Coconut Maple where coconut syrup is harvested.
Any locale used for coastal Maine should show pine trees in every outdoor shot.
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Patti Feinberg on September 16, 2004, 01:04:10 AM: Quote
Thirteen hours over a ten week period.

Okay, was the first ep a 2 hour ordeal?

Also, has anyone ever seen any of the scripts? Next, were there add'l scripts written for the '91 (by then '92) series?

How did it end?

Thanks,

Patti
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on September 16, 2004, 03:16:41 AM: Quote from: Patti on September 16, 2004, 01:04:10 AM
Okay, was the first ep a 2 hour ordeal?

2 hours - yes. An ordeal - not at all! (Well, unless maybe someone was one of the original fans who might have thought the pilot was awful in comparison to the original series. However, I was not one of those fans. ;))

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Also, has anyone ever seen any of the scripts?

Yes. Is there something specific that you're wondering?

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Next, were there add'l scripts written for the '91 (by then '92) series?

Umm, if you mean were scripts written for the second season, no. There were projected ideas for another season (it would have bypassed the whole Adam/Cassandra/Nicholas/Eve period and moved to the introduction of a Chris Jennings type character (played by Michael T. Weiss, who'd played Joe Haskell in the present and Peter Bradford in 1790) / Quentin (played by Adrian Paul, who'd played Jeremiah in 1790)) However, at one point the writers had planned to spend ten episodes in 1790 (they actually spent six) and script treatments for the scripts that were never written do exist. For example, one of the unwritten scripts would have featured Bathia Mapes (who would have been played by Ely Pouget, who'd played Maggie Evans).

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How did it end?

With Vicki's return from the past.
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Gothick on September 21, 2004, 03:49:08 PM: There's an announcement in the latest Shadowgram email stating that MPI is about to let the 1991 series videotapes go out of print.

It mentions that the first volume in the series includes 15 minutes of footage not aired on the original NBC b'cast. I have no idea whether Sci Fi aired the "restored" version during their b'cast of the series a few years back.

The tapes are available "for a limited time only" at $9.98, so get thee to MPI's website if thou so desirest...

feeling Elizabethan,

G.
Title: Re: 1991 Series Questions
Post by: Misa on September 22, 2004, 10:09:23 AM: Do you think they are going to release it on DVD, or just let it go out of print? I sure hope they release it on DVD. I suppose I will have to buy it on video just incase they never release it on DVD. I just hate paying for videos though, theyr'e such a perishable medium.

Misa